The "next one": buy BLNR now or wait for Speedmaster Moonphase Metas Co-axial 2016?

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BLNR.

Does anyone dislike that watch?

YES i dislike it because of the too fat case and it's simply a overhyped model, had it on my wrist and it is a boring watch, compared it with my 16700 or 1675 and gave it back ....
 
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Mr @Archer. Can I ask you two questions Sir ?
● Is 24 hrs after a full wind of my Glb MC equals to 2/3rd of the power reserves ? Here's some data c7c3425709fa136d26f2f66271b9823e.jpg
●Although those columns not longer appear , the METAS criteria must still be observed at 1/3rd of the power reserves right ?
...regardless of whether the Work Instructions were updated or not

Well I'm sure you can do the math, so is 24/60 = .666? Don't think so...😉

The previous revision of the document did have the criteria listed for checking isochronism down to 1/3 of the power reserve, allowing up to 8 more seconds to the Delta from full wind, so if full wind was 12 seconds then down to 1/3 could be as much as 20 seconds.

Why they removed this in the latest revision only Omega knows, but it is not currently part of the testing done during after sales service. Note that this particular Work Instruction (#28) is just a series of charts that list all the timing values you work to, but the one that actually tells you how to perform the testing procedures (#5) was never updated to include testing down to 1/3 power reserve.

Cheers, Al
 
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I don't know the details of that Moonphase in blue are definitely speaking to me.
 
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It might have been the simple fact that the Speedy Moonphase has been delayed until Jan 2017...or...more likely...the imminent release of Rogue One with the return of Vader.....I'm sorry Omega peers...please forgive me...I have not resisted the appeal of the Dark side of the Force ...hopefully Vader will let me keep my hand on and not chop it off together with my new BLNR.

Notice in the Rolex group shot below...how my subconscious grouped the "black" dials first, pushing out the white Exp 2 to the end....



Fair @meganfox17, could you please provide an appropriate photoshop to register the moment of my fall from grace? Many thanks if you can find the time😀

Below another group shot for comical inspiration...Title: " GMT World Traveller and Explorers"...to register the long distance haul / exploration / timezone theme I asked for help from a fluffy Kiwi and an aborigine hand painted comfy cushion...you can see the Kiwi is letting the BLNR know its place amongst the Rolex brethren...don't get too cocky Batman!
 
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I'm sorry Omega..please forgive me...cannot resist..Dark side of the Force.. strong .....Vader will....can't resist....

Smeagol must resist Gollum....My Precious....All mine...... @meganfox17, could you please provide an appropriate photoshop
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Super effort @meganfox17...where did you find that recent picture of me?... actually it is quite flattering, you are too kind. BTW a special big thank you for the subtle photoshop touches on my hair, I have been struggling with that combover for some time. Cheers
 
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Congratulations on the BLNR! It's not like you could make a poor decision when either getting that one now or waiting for the Moonphase. Presuming I like the Speedy as much in person as the photos, along with a few others whom are also excitedly awaiting release, there will be plenty of live pics incoming soon. You could peruse those photos and opinions and decide if it's a model you wish to keep on your radar.
 
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in all honesty, if you are looking for a horological advancement, Omegas right now are pretty hard to beat when it comes to Bang for your buck, Design, and technological advancements. Rolex has name recognition but so does Omega. But I firmly believe that Rolex advancements have been slow and steady while Omega isnt afraid to try new things, IE Silicone Hairsprings.
 
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in all honesty, if you are looking for a horological advancement, Omegas right now are pretty hard to beat when it comes to Bang for your buck, Design, and technological advancements. Rolex has name recognition but so does Omega. But I firmly believe that Rolex advancements have been slow and steady while Omega isnt afraid to try new things, IE Silicone Hairsprings.

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in all honesty, if you are looking for a horological advancement, Omegas right now are pretty hard to beat when it comes to Bang for your buck, Design, and technological advancements. Rolex has name recognition but so does Omega. But I firmly believe that Rolex advancements have been slow and steady while Omega isnt afraid to try new things, IE Silicone Hairsprings.

@fnfz4 I think the new Rolex calibre 3255 looks pretty impressive and Omega has been doing great stuff with the anti-magnetic co-axials. I believe from a calibre development perspective both are evolving well and there is little to choose between them. In terms of design they diverge on purpose: Rolex is glacial to preserve its iconic references and traditional customer base...Omega goes all over the place in terms of design and materials to try and capture new clients, especially the 20-40 range who are looking for something different. Omega maintains its iconic Speedmaster MOTM as its anchor watch for the collector base/WIS enthusiasts.

In terms of bang for buck much will depend on local pricing and access to the grey market in your specific region. Here in Rio, the OB had been doing great pricing between 2013-2015 and Rolex during the same period was much more expensive compared to US boutique pricing. We do not have an active grey market in Brazil...so again if you are buying a grey market BNIB DOSTM for US$9k in the US I completely agree that it is more "bang for the buck" than a new ceramic Daytona. Here in Rio the Omega pricing differential on certain watches has evaporated in Q3 2016: the original DOSTM is now costing at the local OB US$1.5K more than I paid for my YG Tresor in 2015 while a brand new Rolex BLNR is now being offered with similar pricing to the US boutique market.

Note that the local OB pricing has remained reasonably competitive compared to US OBs for the Seamaster 300MC, the SS Globemasters and the SpeedMaster 57 Co-axial, for example. The Speedy 57 is a watch which is on my radar for a possible purchase in 2017...but right now I think the Heuer Monza re-edition will probably be my next chronograph, assuming that it passes a future wrist test (passing through Boston/Houston in December, hope to check one out there). Tag Heuer is making a comeback to the Brazilian market...it has always been a strong local brand due to the association with Ayrton Senna/F1 and this means I will have good local technical support in the future. Another watch on my short term radar will be a Grand Seiko champagne dial with quartz movement (yes, quartz!)...to be purchased in Japan, as we are considering our next family trip to be a first time visit to Japan. I have always admired the finishing on the GS watches (saw a few in NY), but do worry about service support for their Spring Drive and Mechanical watches living in Rio. I also love the fact that their Quartz movements are completely in-house down to the quartz crystals, with each watch fine tuned for a specific crystal😀

Cheers
 
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I am a bit torn between the GS quartz and the spring drive...as the spring drive really is a unique Seiko movement. But the lack of GS spring drive service support in lovely Rio and having to send the watch back to Japan for service made it a no-go for me. I think for the quartz the battery change is quick enough and simple enough I can get it done by local authorized Seiko representatives. I have read somewhere that the service interval for the GS quartz is 50yrs! I think owning a top range quartz GS with Seiko as the inventors of the wrist quartz calibre 35A in 1969 creates a nice storyline for me...it will also be a nice souvenir to remember our latest family trip😀
 
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Personally I don't like the BLNR as the colours are confusing with blue traditionally indicating the nighttime period on the Pepsi but meaning the reverse in this case, I don't quite understand why they didn't just make the coke black/red for this model, or why they felt the need to make the new Pepsi white gold exclusive just to annoy people.
 
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Personally I don't like the BLNR as the colours are confusing with blue traditionally indicating the nighttime period on the Pepsi but meaning the reverse in this case, I don't quite understand why they didn't just make the coke black/red for this model, or why they felt the need to make the new Pepsi white gold exclusive just to annoy people.
@dsio thanks for brining the thread back on topic after my own highjacking diversions above😀

If I recall correctly I think Rolex only managed to get their ceramic technology to produce black and blue initially on the same bezel, hence the BLNR offering.

I actually think the blue\black combo is the most intuitive day\night interpretation you can get, just based on daylight blue and black night skies. I also think the blue GMT hand stands out better again the black dial than the green or red...but I am slightly colour blind on the green...so that doesn't help😀.

FTR I think Rolex will manage to annoy you even further producing a Coke white gold exclusive version in the near future as well.😁 Following true Rolex tradition, they will probably sap the high profit margins on the WG Coke and Pepsi and only then release the SS versions later on.
 
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I somehow doubt they'll risk the Pepsi profit margins by releasing it as a stainless steel variant, they've never done it before with the blue Submariner or white gold exclusive Daytona dials or anything so I wouldn't be expecting to see it grace stainless any time soon.
 
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I somehow doubt they'll risk the Pepsi profit margins by releasing it as a stainless steel variant, they've never done it before with the blue Submariner or white gold exclusive Daytona dials or anything so I wouldn't be expecting to see it grace stainless any time soon.
I have to agree with you...I suppose they are working out the $$ on launching a Coke in SS (larger market, perhaps more appropriate for the current economic client...but might reduce sales for BLNR and Pepsi WG) versus Coke in WG.
 
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It will of course depend on your location but in the US I think the MSRP is around US$9K. Not sure though right now with the recent Rolex price list changes around the world.
 
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It will of course depend on your location but in the US I think the MSRP is around US$9K. Not sure though right now with the recent Rolex price list changes around the world.

Thanks, seems like the grey market isn't discounting this one as much as other pieces.
 
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Would you guys go for a Blue "Deep Black" Ceramic Planet Ocean or the BLNR for roughly the same price?