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The lucky new owner of my Grandad's Omega, advice needed!
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alorimer82
·Agree. Geneva lugs? 1948/49 Cal 28.10 with variation on the dial markers all Roman numerals in place of the alternate hour dot markers.
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Peemacgee
·Mouse_at_large, I agree with you too, I can see both arguments for and against, I'm only going to do what Christian advises me to do, he's the expert after all. Yes, it's how my Grandad would have seen it but it's not how he saw it when he bought it and I think there's something about getting it back to its original state.
Christian doesn't do dial restoration - but he will no doubt advise on someone who does
It won't be cheap and will outweigh the 'intrinsic' value of your watch
It will have to be a decision on cost-v- benefit
Best of luck
Tip:
Go to the watchguy site and see when the next slots are up for grabs
I'm not sure they make exceptions for new customers (no matter how worthy the watch )
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ConElPueblo
·I'm not sure they make exceptions for new customers (no matter how worthy the watch )
Pretty sure that they don't - @alorimer82 will just have to hover over the keyboard on the 25th and be fast to book when they are open for bookings!
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alorimer82
·Thanks for the tips guys, I've emailed him already, should I wait for his response first or try and book a slot too?
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Peemacgee
·as @ConElPueblo mentioned - next booking time for new customers is 7pm (BST) 25 June
see what Christian says when he replies to your email
see what Christian says when he replies to your email
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyMy guess is it's from the 1940s with a 28.10 Bumper movement.
Maybe you got lucky and have the larger 30.10. The 28.10 is more common and very similar.
Your case looks very similar to my 30.10 from 1949.
Are you prepared to ruin it and start over? Unless your answer is yes......
My point was that if you touched the current dial for cleaning, expect disaster, the ink looks very fragile.
But then, I like patina , real boobs over augmented, a gracefully aged Lady over the one with facelifts, etc., etc.
The members have been politely telling you that the finished product will not have resale value equal to your investment, sentiment doesn't transfer to new owners very well.
The value can only be measured successfully in your heart, not in the checkbook.
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·Do you have the case diameter? (measure outside diameter from 2-8)
Maybe you got lucky and have the larger 30.10. The 28.10 is more common and very similar.
Your case looks very similar to my 30.10 from 1949.
If your answer is yes and you decide to redial, you will affect the collector value very little as it is already redialed. You will have a nice shiny watch with great provenance!
My point was that if you touched the current dial for cleaning, expect disaster, the ink looks very fragile.
But then, I like patina , real boobs over augmented, a gracefully aged Lady over the one with facelifts, etc., etc.
The members have been politely telling you that the finished product will not have resale value equal to your investment, sentiment doesn't transfer to new owners very well.
The value can only be measured successfully in your heart, not in the checkbook.
Your 30.10. Is very, very nice!
I've just measured mine and it's 32mm, is it a 28.10?
It's resale value isn't important to me as I won't be selling it, I plan to restore it and wear it with pride.
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyIt's resale value isn't important to me as I won't be selling it, I plan to restore it and wear it with pride
What a great answer!
Yes, you most likely have the 28.10 unless the "AUTOMATIC" on the dial was just added for style.
If you rotate and move it around, can you feel the "bump"?
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·Wear it in good health with pride and thanks for sharing!
Yes I can feel the bump! 28.10?
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyNow you know why they call them bumpers!
Unless there is a surprise for us, you'll find the 28.10. If we are several years off on the age, there could be a later variation but I doubt it.
We'll learn a lot when you open'er up.
Remember, send us pictures!
Unless there is a surprise for us, you'll find the 28.10. If we are several years off on the age, there could be a later variation but I doubt it.
We'll learn a lot when you open'er up.
Remember, send us pictures!
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·Now you know why they call them bumpers!
Unless there is a surprise for us, you'll find the 28.10. If we are several years off on the age, there could be a later variation but I doubt it.
We'll learn a lot when you open'er up.
Remember, send us pictures!
Will do! Fingers crossed I can get it booked in with the watch guys!
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TNTwatch
·Mouse_at_large, I agree with you too, I can see both arguments for and against, I'm only going to do what Christian advises me to do, he's the expert after all. Yes, it's how my Grandad would have seen it but it's not how he saw it when he bought it and I think there's something about getting it back to its original state.
The best solution is to look around for a vintage dial in good condition that is correct for your watch, but it will require much effort and depend a lot on your luck.
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·The dial has been refinished before already, so refinishing it again won't make a difference. Christian will have someone else do it if you request a dial repaint. Not gonna be the best quality but will be enjoyable.
The best solution is to look around for a vintage dial in good condition that is correct for your watch, but it will require much effort and depend a lot on your luck.
According to my Mum, the watch has never been serviced... She says her Dad wouldn't have bothered. She never serviced it and my Dad didn't either while he was using it. It's had a hard life by the sound of it but it's still going strong! Could the current dial condition be purely down corrosion and ageing? The only other explanation is that my Grandad bought it secondhand. But according to my Mum, he wasn't the type to buy used!
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TNTwatch
·According to my Mum, the watch has never been serviced... She says her Dad wouldn't have bothered. She never serviced it and my Dad didn't either while he was using it. It's had a hard life by the sound of it but it's still going strong! Could the current dial condition be purely down corrosion and ageing? The only other explanation is that my Grandad bought it secondhand. But according to my Mum, he wasn't the type to buy used!
As for its service history, it's probably impossible for a person to remember everything in the last 60 years, especially about something she did not have possession of for likely several decades. 😀
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·The dial certainly is in poor condition at the moment. It also appears 100% refinished to me, based on the poor printing of the logo and fonts and a few other signs. The refinish was very well the result of the original dial had gone bad a few decades ago.
As for its service history, it's probably impossible for a person to remember everything in the last 60 years, especially about something she did not have possession of for likely several decades. 😀
Any ideas where I might be able to source a dial?
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TNTwatch
·Any ideas where I might be able to source a dial?
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·People, can I have your opinions on this please:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/dia...partsaccessories--acc.htm&manufacturerIds=187
Christian from thewatchguys recommended David Bill & Sons if I decide to get mine restored, anyone used them?
Thanks,
Al.
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/dia...partsaccessories--acc.htm&manufacturerIds=187
Christian from thewatchguys recommended David Bill & Sons if I decide to get mine restored, anyone used them?
Thanks,
Al.
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Mouse_at_Large
·I think you may be getting ahead of yourself. If you go down the restoration route to David Bill & Sons, given that they seem to have a pretty good reputation, you may not need to consider a replacement dial. In any event, the dial you have linked to, though it looks nice enough, is not even close to the one you currently have. There are other issues to consider as well, such as the exact dimensions of the dial, its holes and the placement of dial feet and the underside of the dial.
Patience young Padawan, you'll get there in the end 😎
Patience young Padawan, you'll get there in the end 😎
