The Last Moonwatch... And I Got It!

Privateday7 · Sep 24, 2014

shakin_jake
I've heard our good friend Archie Luxury, refer to the Moonwatch, as a 'decent' wristwatch, and not a luxury wristwatch...thoughts anyone?...my post count is extremely low and I need to get er up there<LOL>

BTW, I'm a recent buyer of this exact same watch (July 15 2014), and not a hater...I just wanted to throw Archie's reference of the moonwatch *not* being a luxury watch, out here, on this forum, if for no better reason than to strike up a conversation about Archie's thoughts, and, I'm bringing them up in the heart doc's thread, only because of heart doc's reference of it (the moonwatch), being a luxury watch

Jake posing w/said watch-

BTW, I love wearing mine (moonwatch) daily...mechanical art, not to be missed, and has been keeping damn good time, perfect time, almost. Omega fan here for life

BTW2, I purchased my Speedy Pro new through Kiril...total gentleman and the experience sourcing this watch through him, was a pleasure through and through

IMHO luxury is a relative term. Some people use USD 1000, USD 5,000, USD 10,000 or even higher for watch price to be considered luxury. Some other use material it used (precious metal, gem, exotic element) as definition of luxury. Some other segmenting based on brand perception. (e.g Omega is positioned as mass-luxury watch lumped together with Rolex, Breitling and Tag Heuer by some marketing research company, while Patek is high end luxury and Casio as low end mass).
Certainly Archie is not someone that I will use as standard to say which is luxury or not...LOL. There's even a thread in the past bashing him for his arrogant, obnoxious and smugness.

I myself see moonwatch as a tool watch first (compare to dressy watch, complication watch, fashion watch etc) . A very robust one which passes very high bar qualification and have strong history behind it. Secondly as my psychological bar for determining a new watch is considered luxury or not is at USD 3000 (don't ask me why), then moonwatch retail price of USD 4500 is considered luxury in my view, but again it is arbitrary and different people might have different opinion. So IMO moonwatch is a luxury toolwatch.

Privateday7 · Sep 24, 2014

I wonder the latest Omega move to increase price of moonwatch by giving better box packaging is helping AD & boutique all around the world in their existing sales. I can imagine many potential buyers who still hesitate or waiting will be tilted in making decision quickly before the old inventory dry up.

Lee CL · Sep 24, 2014

I find Omega increased the price too much, They give you a new box and increase about USD $600 to $700. But who is going to bring that lovely box with them around.

genepomelo · Sep 24, 2014

Hi Heartdoctor congrats on your MoonWatch 😉

heartdoctor · Sep 24, 2014

Enjoying the great discussion here! Keep them coming!! Thanks again for all the thumbs up!

Mothra · Sep 24, 2014

shakin_jake, buy a really cheap vintage watch and practice strap changes on that. No risk f hurting your speedy. I used $5 smith's empires to practice on.

CdnWatchDoc · Sep 24, 2014

Mothra
shakin_jake, buy a really cheap vintage watch and practice strap changes on that. No risk f hurting your speedy. I used $5 smith's empires to practice on.

Really good idea there! Need to buy some cheap pieces!

silviogo · Sep 25, 2014

Good buy and decision! I'm in the same process old reference or new? The speedy it's exactly the same. I love the new "moon black box" with extra Nato wrist etc.
The interesting thing of buying in 2014 the new box is that it you buy it in first year of production and distribution may be in future (15 / 20 years) this could be a pro value in therm of pricing.
I'm also thinking that at the end I'll wear the watch ⌚ and not the box so why spent extra 600euro for it? I'm in decision process, and within November I'll take mine decision.

DLT222 · Sep 25, 2014

I would go old and if you really want the box buy it separately!

shakin_jake · Sep 26, 2014

Privateday7 said-

IMHO luxury is a relative term. Some people use USD 1000, USD 5,000, USD 10,000 or even higher for watch price to be considered luxury. Some other use material it used (precious metal, gem, exotic element) as definition of luxury. Some other segmenting based on brand perception. (e.g Omega is positioned as mass-luxury watch lumped together with Rolex, Breitling and Tag Heuer by some marketing research company, while Patek is high end luxury and Casio as low end mass).
IMHO luxury is a relative term. Some people use USD 1000, USD 5,000, USD 10,000 or even higher for watch price to be considered luxury. Some other use material it used (precious metal, gem, exotic element) as definition of luxury. Some other segmenting based on brand perception. (e.g Omega is positioned as mass-luxury watch lumped together with Rolex, Breitling and Tag Heuer by some marketing research company, while Patek is high end luxury and Casio as low end mass).
Certainly Archie is not someone that I will use as standard to say which is luxury or not...LOL. There's even a thread in the past bashing him for his arrogant, obnoxious and smugness.

~~~speaking strictly for myself, it's Archie's arrogant, obnoxious/smugness, that I find so endearing about him. That said, he knows a thing or two about wristwatches. I think, when Archie said in one of his videos, that he did not consider the Omega Speedmaster Professional wristwatch, to be a luxury watch, and that it was just a decent wristwatch, it was around the time he revised his top ten luxury watch list... If you'll recall, his first list, the Speedy Pro made that list (maybe the list was called the top 10 greatest wristwatches...I'm just thinking out loud here=😀, but the 2nd list, IIRC, the Speedy Pro failed to make the cut, being edged out by some other makes...

For sure, I would consider the Speedy Pro, a tool watch, or probably referred more appropriately as a sports watch, and to be doubly sure, although it's not a $10 K Patek starter watch..., it's still a luxury wristwatch, AFAIC. Others may have better and different ideas

I myself see moonwatch as a tool watch first (compare to dressy watch, complication watch, fashion watch etc) . A very robust one which passes very high bar qualification and have strong history behind it. Secondly as my psychological bar for determining a new watch is considered luxury or not is at USD 3000 (don't ask me why), then moonwatch retail price of USD 4500 is considered luxury in my view, but again it is arbitrary and different people might have different opinion. So IMO moonwatch is a luxury toolwatch.

~~~Luxury tool watch it is=😀

shakin_jake · Sep 26, 2014

Mothra said-

@shakin_jake, buy a really cheap vintage watch and practice strap changes on that. No risk f hurting your speedy. I used $5 smith's empires to practice on.

~~~Excellent idea!, now at the risk of appearing to be uninformed (which I am=😀, where do you suggest I go to purchase uber inexpensive *vintage* wristwatches, so I can practice spring bar removal/replacement...and are there any particular watches I should look to bid on (you would suggest), and or buy, that is as close to the style the Speedy Pro uses, to enclose the spring bar? Should I assume ebay is one place to find vintage time pieces that fit the bill here? Not that long ago, when my passion to find vintage straight razors to obtain, in order to satisfy my quest to learn how to hone the same, I used ebay frequently, as a source to pick up vintage blades, to learn the honing craft

My other watch, the one I don when I don't want to get my Moonwatch nasty (spinning wrenches, & doing other durty work), is a Timex weekender...it came with a ZULU band, a rather short one I might add...which I've replaced, but the way the spring bars are held by the Timex piece, it's not enclosed underneath (on the under side) like the Speedy Pro, so I guess what I need is a suitable practice clunker (read inexpensive) that will emulate the intricacies of the Speedy Pro case...

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

shakin_jake · Sep 26, 2014

After looking at my Omega Speedmaster Pro (and spending some time on ebay looking at vintage watches), it occurs to me that what makes it difficult (as it were) to remove the watch band from the Speedy Pro, it's not so much the watch case itself, it's the style of the band, and how it attaches to the case, that makes it appear, to be *tough* to remove the band (the oem band), w/o scratching it...

Therefore, if I buy a vintage watch to practice with, I'll need one with a band similar to the oem band on the Speedy Pro

just thinking out loud here...thoughts?

Fusion · Sep 26, 2014

Stunning piece. This one is high on my list, it's such an awesome chrono. I have actually yet to see one in the flesh but I look forward to ownership some day. Thanks for sharing.

Mothra · Sep 27, 2014

Jake, the scratching of lugs all comes down to technique - whether its on a strap or bracelet. If you hold it wrong, or release the compressed springboard early you wind up with a scratched lug; if you hold it really wrong you scratch the topside of the lug which is even worse. There are videos on YouTube that show a good technique for you to try - and that's where the practice comes in. I think with a speedy, onto the technique is mastered it'll just come down to whether your springbar tool is narrow enough to get in the gap in the bracelet - I use a bergeon 6767f (the f is for fine) and that slots into all mine... just pick a cheap watch from ebay or a watch fair - my wife picked up a fossil with a steel bracelet as part of a treasure hunt at the last watch fair for a pound...

ron n · Sep 27, 2014

hansmaulwurf · Sep 29, 2014

You've done everything right! Congratulations ... and welcome to the best forum!

AND: Don't think that this will be your last and only Omega if you stay here for a while ... 😁

... even in the last days one additional Speedy (not on the picture) arrived ... some pics later!

Best regards,
Hans

bish789 · Sep 29, 2014

I want a Speedy. I need a Speedy. Unfortunately a new car had to come first. But there's always Xmas, and Santa. If my wife reads this will you all tell her that Speedys are less than £500 for the condition the one I will get will be (Mint) 😉

OrangeSport · Sep 29, 2014

Great choice. I love mine, and really enjoy using it. My crystal has a couple of marks, more like faint smudges than scratches, but I haven't found that it scratches as easily as people sometimes suggest.

shakin_jake · Sep 30, 2014

Fusion:

Stunning piece. This one is high on my list, it's such an awesome chrono. I have actually yet to see one in the flesh but I look forward to ownership some day. Thanks for sharing.

Why not state where your location is...I have an idea one of the members may live near you and would be more than willing to arrange a showing of their watch for you

Speaking strictly for myself, what made me fall for one (Omega Speedmaster Professional), it's the understated look. Not flashy at all, yet a watch of substance, substantive elegance

shakin_jake · Sep 30, 2014

Mothra said:

Jake, the scratching of lugs all comes down to technique - whether its on a strap or bracelet. If you hold it wrong, or release the compressed springboard early you wind up with a scratched lug; if you hold it really wrong you scratch the topside of the lug which is even worse. There are videos on YouTube that show a good technique for you to try - and that's where the practice comes in. I think with a speedy, onto the technique is mastered it'll just come down to whether your springbar tool is narrow enough to get in the gap in the bracelet - I use a bergeon 6767f (the f is for fine) and that slots into all mine... just pick a cheap watch from ebay or a watch fair - my wife picked up a fossil with a steel bracelet as part of a treasure hunt at the last watch fair for a pound...

~~~Any u-tube link in particular Mothra?

here's a pic of the spring bar tool I have-

The end of the tool I have ( shown, the thinner side) measures 1 mm in width, and the v of the tool, I guess the part that catches the spring bar, is inside of that measurement. Just messing around using a magnifying glass, it fits within the watch band lug, and when I place the business end of the tool *over* the end of the spring bar, with the tool pressed against the case, it feels like it catches the spring bar, adequately. Not having any idea how to use this tool, I'm guessing if I pull the spring bar where the v of the tool catches it, the spring bar will come out of the lug it's nestled into?

I'm in no hurry to get ahead of myself here, and I was totally sober placing the spring bar tool to the lug<LOL> yet not interested in going any further...at this point

So in your opinion...is the spring bar tool I have, the correct model to move forward using?

Admittedly, I bought it on a whim, and haven't much invested in it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ZEWGSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If it will get the job done without damaging my Speedy Pro, I'll use it, but if it's chancy to use, I'll forgo it's use and buy better

The Last Moonwatch... And I Got It!

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DLT222

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bish789

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