The Hodinkee House Style, April 2020

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This is a watch that most just jumped on the sheeplle band wagon. And now they are spruiking the moon landing dribble connected to it like it was a life long inspiration.
2012 there was probably 10 people here that were passionate about them and only 3 that were moonwatch/astronaut passionate
2005 they were a $500-1000 watch that took months to sell.

As somebody who was a young boy during the Apollo programme I read everything I could about it in newspapers and magazines (see my avatar) and saw it on TV, and I'm not from the US. Although it might be hard for younger people to appreciate, it was pretty much continuously front-and-centre in the media during that period. We're talking about successive Apollo launches that were taking place every few months, not years, with each one pushing the envelope further. It was a genuinely exciting era and IMHO we humans have not achieved anything else that matches it in terms of the extent of technical progress that was achieved over such a short period of time.

Coming to Speedmasters, even though at the time there was no way I was going to be able to own one, I was well aware of them and would have loved to have had one. Later, much as the Apollo programme became part of history, my world moved on and there were higher priorities. The underlying desire to own a Speedmaster hadn't gone but I was only in a position to fulfill it much later. Watches are a discretionary item and I wish I had been in a position to buy a Speedy for $500 in 2005 but my focus and spending were elsewhere. I appreciate every watch lover has their own preference but the Speedmaster does have a deep significance for me and if that makes me a Speedy sheeple I'm perfectly OK with that. 馃憤
Side note to Omega: we don't need a Speedy Sheeple LE.
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@queriver at no time I apply you as a sheeple or want that. It鈥檚 more of these guys jump on whatever is popular bandwagon. Why are these guys all of a sudden Speedmaster fans when they weren鈥檛 years ago.
My respect is for Fratello who were driving the bandwagon years ago with speedy Tuesday.

People like yourself and myself are old enough to have lived the space/moon connection.
( and happy to help out those with said connection https://omegaforums.net/threads/free-postage.20474 )
 
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Ben Clymer, "A Personal History with the Speedmaster":
"So what鈥檚 my favorite Speedmaster? The MK40, the H10, my 2998 with military provenance, sure. But also the Speedmaster with that amazing story that I haven't discovered yet. That鈥檚 my favorite."

Steve Martin, "Drivel":
"She came back and looked at me. 'This is not just drivel," she exulted. 'It's pure drivel.' The butterflies in my stomach sopranoed a chorus of 'Hallelujah.' That night, we celebrated with a champagne dinner for two, and I told her that her skin was the color of fine white typing paper held in the sun and reflecting the pink of a New Mexican adobe horse barn."

Their house style is quite amusing (sometimes), irritating (other times), and often hilariously full of fluff

Easy to parody.

And hey, my favourite watch? It's the one where I, in a parallel universe, armed with a PhD, earning more than $2m a year, purchase while browsing in my professional office, to add to my collection of 300 watches, all of which have amazing stories and military provenance.

Thanks Ben for inspiring me 馃槜
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I my point of view as a hunter, fishermen, sea captain, amateur photographer, and with a lot more of skills 馃榿 I am just a ordinary guy, using my mostly vintage watches, knives, rifles and so on, in everyday life, I instantly can tell when "corporate" bullshit" and severe biased statements, created just to make things looks more impressive are used.

It麓s just about the money for some people and not a genuine passion, and I personally never visits these kind of biased web pages.
 
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All I'm going to say is that Hodinkee can hold hands with Theo and Harris. They both sell dubious pieces sometimes, can't be bothered to offer a movement pic and have hilarious descriptions. I'm nowhere near the level of experience collecting some people here have but I can spot an overpolished case and other major easy to see flaws just as well.
The sad thing is that they sometimes drive up the price on mid-tier pieces, accessible for a collector like me, like the one below.
Far fetched would be an understatement for this ad: https://theoandharris.com/shop/vintage-watches/croton-paul-newman/
I'm no seasoned collector but "Paul Newman" and "Croton" don't belong in the same sentence.

Thank you for the good laugh you have given me, sir!
 
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All I'm going to say is that Hodinkee can hold hands with Theo and Harris. They both sell dubious pieces sometimes, can't be bothered to offer a movement pic and have hilarious descriptions. I'm nowhere near the level of experience collecting some people here have but I can spot an overpolished case and other major easy to see flaws just as well.
The sad thing is that they sometimes drive up the price on mid-tier pieces, accessible for a collector like me, like the one below.
Far fetched would be an understatement for this ad: https://theoandharris.com/shop/vintage-watches/croton-paul-newman/
I'm no seasoned collector but "Paul Newman" and "Croton" don't belong in the same sentence.


Thank you for the good laugh you have given me, sir!

Completely agree. Theo and Harris is a good example - they have some great videos to entice customers, but their vintage shop sells watches for far more than their actual value... Their videos manage to hype up the obscure brands they are selling.
 
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Completely agree. Theo and Harris is a good example - they have some great videos to entice customers, but their vintage shop sells watches for far more than their actual value... Their videos manage to hype up the obscure brands they are selling.

Like this completely overpriced Speedy: https://theoandharris.com/shop/vintage-watches/omega-speedmaster-145-022/ Which is piss poor condition, including a very stretched bracelet, but they are asking a premium price for it.
 
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There's almost no example of a popular publication/ journal that doesn't draw the ire of the hardcore enthusiast community. I also frequent guitar forums and it's just as bad over there as it is here. I can only imagine how much worse it is on car forums.

I think Hodinkee is great as a lifestyle journal with a focus on horology. There is a slight tinge of privilege that's pretty pervasive in the house style. The worst example of that being their Hodinkee Radio podcast; lots of rich folks laughing about rich problems discussing Patek 5711s. Stephen Pulvirent is probably the most lifeless, one-dimensional host in podcasting right now.

That being said there are still great moments, like their reference point series. Their photography skills are undeniably good and they're uniquely positioned to do things like gather every reference of a watch just for the sake of writing about it. I'm not sure if there's any other scenario where things like that can happen without a thing like Hodinkee.
 
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That being said there are still great moments, like their reference point series. Their photography skills are undeniably good and they're uniquely positioned to do things like gather every reference of a watch just for the sake of writing about it.

I agree their Reference Point series are quite good and useful. I also like their "3-on-3" series.

I'm not sure if there's any other scenario where things like that can happen without a thing like Hodinkee.

There are however non-Hodinkee other sites done by enthusiasts which do the same thing - Speedmaster 101, or the GMT II guide, are just 2 of the many examples out there.
 
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There's almost no example of a popular publication/ journal that doesn't draw the ire of the hardcore enthusiast community. I also frequent guitar forums and it's just as bad over there as it is here.

Old guitars were my interest before watches. It's interesting to compare and contrast the issues these two communities focus on.

I really am agnostic about Hondinkee as a business or lifestyle journal. I'm just not invested enough in watches to have a strong opinion about how the publication wields its own authority and influence in the market, though other members here have made compelling cases about that.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hodinkee-gets-it-wrong-again.60477/

Ben Clymer is clearly not just lucky鈥攍aunching an enterprise like Hodinkee is no small feat, and its success is no accident. He's not even the worst writer on the site.
 
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Respect
It鈥檚 a word that we don鈥檛 often use in watch collecting, but it applies not just once, or twice , but three times when we gaze upon the visage of this grail watch.

Part of what makes this parody work so well is that its target would not hesitate to publish it in earnest.
 
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Sorry for drift but having followed the thread was amused when this popped up during some appliance shopping. Pretty over-the-top and bordering on self-parody...
https://www.jennair.com/cooktops-an...lass-touch-electronic-controls.jec4430hb.html

OBLIVIAN GLASS 30" ELECTRIC RADIANT COOKTOP WITH GLASS-TOUCH ELECTRONIC CONTROLS
JEC4430HB
Indulge your untamed appetite for more with a radiant cooktop that unleashes heat at your command. Experience a surface that ascends to new levels of precision. Potent. Palatable. A force to be reckoned with as the most powerful radiant cooktop in its class.
 
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Hodinkee is such a mixed bag: they do so many things that make it easy to throw darts at, yet, after you skewer them, it somehow feels so unfulfilling and uninspiring.

On balance, would still rather have them around than not.
 
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And thus the ball is set rolling and people loose their money on dubious watches, just because their readers aren鈥檛 collectors and just thrust the written media.
Agreed. At best, it's damaging to the market. At worst, it's outright shilling for the next post which just happens to be an announcement of which brand is now available through the Dinky shop.
 
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Agreed. At best, it's damaging to the market. At worst, it's outright shilling for the next post which just happens to be an announcement of which brand is now available through the Dinky shop.

Exactly, and it makes you questions pretty much everything they write. You wonder what the real motivation is behind their glowing praise...

The whole VC chrono thing pretty much blew any remaining credibility they had out of the water, IMO. Apologists will say they wouldn't choose that watch if they didn't already like it, and I get that point, but they were clearly laying the groundwork for the LE when they published their glowing review when they were already 6 months into the collaboration...
 
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"rarified tastes"? Judging by all the speedy dweebs on this forum that isn't gonna pop up here very often as well.

speedy dweeb 1: "If you look close with a 1000X microscope you can clearly see the .0004 mm difference in the length of my second hand"

chorus of other speedy dweebs: "oh yes great find and another truly rare speedy variation" 馃榿



Ooh I think that's me!!馃槣 I'm a Speedy Dweeb!

::facepalm1::

My wife is nodding over there....

However I am also the guy who says its NOT a truly rare speedy variation....Its just a variation of the hand....


OMG I'm doing it again...
 
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Ooh I think that's me!!馃槣 I'm a Speedy Dweeb!

::facepalm1::

My wife is nodding over there....

However I am also the guy who says its NOT a truly rare speedy variation....Its just a variation of the hand....


OMG I'm doing it again...

You Sir, just got baited by OFs very own master baiter...
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Hodinkee does some good stuff. Talking Watches, for example, is awesome. That said, they are in the business of making money, not an altruistic font of watch knowledge. Please consume your hobby-esque internet-content carefully--be it watches, cars, audio, bikes, etc.