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SpeedyPhill
·@kfranzk
Welcome to the forum !
Welcome to the forum !
The Aviators Thread
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Mad Dog
·But you always told me the USN issued you a ladies gold tone Pulsar quartz. You said their thinking was that the smaller size would be less visible in case you were concealing yourself behind enemy lines...like in Bat 21. So...was that all a lie? I suppose next you'll say you and JFK Jr. weren't really lovers...and that you didn't name your son after Donald Trump. I just don't know what I can believe in anymore.
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JimInOz
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MRC
·Not what you first think.....
It's an RC model 7ft long.
More photos:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....350441e732.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e0ff66f259.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7edf14ac9e.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7cf7fd85f1.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8fc01a74d5.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2f2f7b7f04.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7129c6673c.jpg
Original posting in Another Place https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/654727-buccaneer-flying-qualities.html
It's an RC model 7ft long.
More photos:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....350441e732.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e0ff66f259.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7edf14ac9e.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7cf7fd85f1.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8fc01a74d5.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2f2f7b7f04.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7129c6673c.jpg
Original posting in Another Place https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/654727-buccaneer-flying-qualities.html
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Alpha
··Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega CollectorRAF pilots watch,
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Twocats
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The engine choice of Rolls Royce for the re-engining program was surprising. The engine was a JV between BMW and RR prior to RR taking the whole program (Like IAE and PW on the V2500A5 engines) and the engines are built in Germany. BMW built many aero engines during WWII .
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DoctorEvil
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·That's interesting, and quite a nice looking watch to boot. I'm guessing it's a quartz watch? I do question the usefulness of the right hand subdial for measuring time to 1/10 second. You'd have to be an extraordinarily good pilot to fly with that degree of precision! Probably more useful to have a subdial measuring elapsed hours. May I also ask if there are any Service stamps on the case back? (e.g. serial number and crows foot marking)
RAF pilot and Navigator watches (mil spec in general) is a massive rabbit hole. There are many types of watch and just as many types of pilot. Some I have spoken to from some interesting missions just wore a standard quartz pulsar / no chrono. The specs also got reduced as commercial off the shelf improved and budgets got cut. Probably a few gaps below but they hint at complexity on just one story.
@Alpha watch has the first ever quartz Analog movement - so the RAF were not spoilt for choice in terms of the functions ;0)
Time Spec: Seiko 7A28 RAF Gen 1 Chronograph - Worn & Wound (wornandwound.com)
Time Spec: 1970's British Military Asymetrical Chronographs (wornandwound.com)
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Omegafanman
·That's interesting, and quite a nice looking watch to boot. I'm guessing it's a quartz watch? I do question the usefulness of the right hand subdial for measuring time to 1/10 second. You'd have to be an extraordinarily good pilot to fly with that degree of precision! Probably more useful to have a subdial measuring elapsed hours. May I also ask if there are any Service stamps on the case back? (e.g. serial number and crows foot marking)
RAF pilot and Navigator watches (mil spec in general) is a massive rabbit hole. There are many types of watch and just as many types of pilot. Some I have spoken who took part in some interesting missions just wore a standard quartz pulsar / no chrono.
@Alpha watch has the first ever quartz Analog movement - so the RAF were not spoilt for choice in terms of the functions ;0)
The specs also got reduced as commercial off the shelf improved and budgets got cut. Probably a few gaps below but they hint at complexity on just one story.
Time Spec: Seiko 7A28 RAF Gen 1 Chronograph - Worn & Wound (wornandwound.com)
Time Spec: 1970's British Military Asymetrical Chronographs (wornandwound.com)
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DoctorEvil
·RAF pilot and Navigator watches (mil spec in general) is a massive rabbit hole. There are many types of watch and just as many types of pilot. Some I have spoken to from some interesting missions just wore a standard quartz pulsar / no chrono. The specs also got reduced as commercial off the shelf improved and budgets got cut. Probably a few gaps below but they hint at complexity on just one story.
@Alpha watch has the first ever quartz Analog movement - so the RAF were not spoilt for choice in terms of the functions ;0)
Time Spec: Seiko 7A28 RAF Gen 1 Chronograph - Worn & Wound (wornandwound.com)
Time Spec: 1970's British Military Asymetrical Chronographs (wornandwound.com)
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Alpha
··Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega CollectorSeiko Gen 1 case back
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Omegafanman
·Thanks for this info. My understanding is that the IWC MkXI was the RAF standard issue pilot's watch up until about 1982. However, it appears that these chronographs were standard issue at the same time. So, it begs the question: what determines who gets issued a chronograph and who gets issued a simple 3 hand watch?
I think there is some luck of the draw although Navigators probably got the best. There were also non-lume versions as more electronics / screens came in. You might like this (still on the Seiko)....
http://home.earthlink.net/~nederick/SeikoChronoRevuVulcF.htm
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Omegafanman
·Thanks for this info. My understanding is that the IWC MkXI was the RAF standard issue pilot's watch up until about 1982. However, it appears that these chronographs were standard issue at the same time. So, it begs the question: what determines who gets issued a chronograph and who gets issued a simple 3 hand watch?
As an aside I wrote an article on this pilot who got her watch for a packet of biscuits (typical RAF bribery) - a nice 3-handed Pulsar.
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kfranzk
·For those, who are not familiar with the huge amount and variety of military aviation chronographs I attach a few pictures of
- early British Air Ministry chronographs by Pierce (RAF stores ref 6E/357) and
- a few Bund (Federal German Airforce) chrongraphs (marked on the back with the NSN, the Nato specification number) by Junghans
- and some Breguet chronographs of the Forces Aeriennes Francaises
Greetings Konrad
- early British Air Ministry chronographs by Pierce (RAF stores ref 6E/357) and
- a few Bund (Federal German Airforce) chrongraphs (marked on the back with the NSN, the Nato specification number) by Junghans
- and some Breguet chronographs of the Forces Aeriennes Francaises
Greetings Konrad
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Omegafanman
·Another hectic day yesterday… I managed to get the Mosquito spitting flame and we had a Lancaster fly over … just need to sort the camera out… the weekend will be Cold War and fast jets so I will need to run faster … but still lucky with the weather I hope..
The B25 was left standing and the engines will run…. But the experts say a 50/50 chance they will let go from flat spots… so some work needed from that team.
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The B25 was left standing and the engines will run…. But the experts say a 50/50 chance they will let go from flat spots… so some work needed from that team.
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Jones in LA
··Not in LA anymore.I saw this beautiful thing today at the Hollywood/Burbank Airport -- a King Air I presume -- doing its engine run-up on the ramp, just before I began an early morning helicopter training flight. I've seen it in the hangar before (where photography is VERBOTEN!) and it's one of the most beautiful flying things I've ever set eyes on. I always thought that because of its proximity to JPL (just 16km/10mi away as the crow flies) it was an aircraft used primarily for VIP transport, but the story I got today is that NASA uses it primarily as a research platform, and is currently outfitted with sensors to do a high-resolution topographic survey.
If you double-click on the image you can see logos that suggest this aircraft is involved in projects for both JPL and ESA.
If you double-click on the image you can see logos that suggest this aircraft is involved in projects for both JPL and ESA.
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Alpha
··Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega CollectorFrom my meagre collection of images a Supermarine Walrus on duty by the River Forth Railway Bridge. I'll try and look out more tomorrow but first I had better check that I have not already posted in the past 👍
