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I'm planning to replace our Sonos Arc + Sonos One set with Wiim Amp Pro + DIY speaker enclosures (ML-TL design) based around Mark Audio Alpair 11ms full-range drivers. The Wiim Amp Pro has decent-sounding TI TPA3255-based class-D amplification (review) and ESS ES9038 Q2M DAC, built-in streaming and DSP functions, all in one tidy unit. It also has HDMI-ARC support. The general aim is to sell off the Sonos gear and upgrade while keeping costs similar, at least as a starting point. I used ChatGPT's o3 "deep research" + Claude Opus + DeepSeek to evaluate current DIY speaker driver and design choices to best suit our requirements.

We've had our Sonos Arc and Sonos surrounds for a few years now. It's fine for Atmos/movie content, but feels distinctly lacking when it comes to music. In an era when the home HiFi experience is often degraded to the point of becoming a single monophonic speaker that we yell at to start Spotify, I really felt like a course correction was overdue. Sonos fills the room with music, but in a lifeless sort of way that's nothing like I remember from owning better sets of speakers when I was younger.

Firstly, I wanted to replace Spotify because I don't feel like the company cares about audio quality and their encodes sound worse than competitors. I started off by evaluating Apple Music, Tidal, and Qobuz. Tidal won for convenience, ease of use across all devices, and their extensive catalog. Next up was component shopping. I found a Wiim Amp Pro on FB Marketplace for a good price. I'll probably upgrade to streamer + DAC + tube-amp later, but for now this is a solid start and still offers DSP + room correction.

For the speakers we wanted something with a smaller footprint that can be placed up against a wall. Eventually, I decided on the Sea Stack ML-TL by Woden Design with front-facing port. Around 1.4 m (about 4 ft 7 in) tall, but footprint is only 25x25cm(10x10in). We’re going for a narrow tower design instead of a bookshelf speaker + stand, as it occupies a similar amount of space while offering extended bass response. This design uses the single Alpair wideband driver, so doesn't require any crossover electronics.


We found a local dealer with good prices on marine ply with Okoume top layers, which we'll probably just wax and buff for finishing. Ended up buying 2 full 2.4m sheets because there's internal bracing required too. I don't have much in the way of woodworking tools or experience, so thankfully have my dad to help out and prevent anything from going horribly wrong.


Some early test cuts on spare pieces:


Gluing up the first box and setting now:


We'll be using isolating spikes too, found these from Dayton Audio:


I know there's an active crew of HiFi guys here, so would appreciate any general build advice or suggestions on future amp upgrades, etc. I'm also interested in building an amp if there's worthwhile kit options around.

To be continued...
 
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Very cool, can’t wait to see how this turns out
 
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Nice. I bought some MAOP 11s a while ago, and want to design a speaker around them. Probably a 2 woofer reflex design. I theorize that bass reproduction kills good sound from full rangers.

And I haven't heard them, but the Sea Stack has a good reputation.

I'll be watching with interest! If you go over to headfi, ZenMod had some great amp kits.
 
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Very cool.

There have been a pair of DIY full-range speakers in my future for quite a while...

Curious why you chose Mark Audio?
 
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Very cool.

There have been a pair of DIY full-range speakers in my future for quite a while...

Curious why you chose Mark Audio?
Consistently good reviews and positive feedback from owners/builders. A tipping point was seeing similar Mark Audio drivers being used in Model One speakers (previously called Sibelious) by Pearl Audio, which start at around $10K USD, but more importantly sound fantastic. There's also the general appeal of not having to deal with crossovers and multiple drivers, since I'm impatient. https://bottlehead.com/ also sells a speaker kit using smaller versions of the same drivers, and they make really nice stuff. I've previously built their Crack headphone amp + upgrades.

Edit: oh yeah, and Australian stock availability via Darcher! https://www.darcher.com.au/speaker-drivers/fullrange/

 
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Nice. I bought some MAOP 11s a while ago, and want to design a speaker around them. Probably a 2 woofer reflex design. I theorize that bass reproduction kills good sound from full rangers.

And I haven't heard them, but the Sea Stack has a good reputation.

I'll be watching with interest! If you go over to headfi, ZenMod had some great amp kits.
Thanks, hadn't seen the ZenMod stuff
 
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Nice!

With respect to 'down the road', you will not audibly improve on the DAC in the Wiim, but there are plenty of inexpensive options if you need more features/ flexibility. Definitely a case where spending $$$ buys you nothing but the comradeship of others who also spent $$$. But you've probably already read plenty of this during your research on the Wiim Amp Pro.

Amp-wise, been very happy with a Purifi that's in my wife's system. I have a Bryston on our main system that I may swap out for a Purifi at some point, which will allow me to pocket USD $2k+ and recue the space needed for the amp.

Room treatment and room correction (DSP) will be your biggest bang for the buck. Having DSP in the Wiim should be very beneficial. And looking at the speaker curves, maybe you'll want to add a subwoofer or two down the road.
 
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Consistently good reviews and positive feedback from owners/builders. A tipping point was seeing similar Mark Audio drivers being used in Model One speakers (previously called Sibelious) by Pearl Audio, which start at around $10K USD, but more importantly sound fantastic. There's also the general appeal of not having to deal with crossovers and multiple drivers, since I'm impatient. https://bottlehead.com/ also sells a speaker kit using smaller versions of the same drivers, and they make really nice stuff. I've previously built their Crack headphone amp + upgrades.

Edit: oh yeah, and Australian stock availability via Darcher! https://www.darcher.com.au/speaker-drivers/fullrange/

I thought you might be going for this … I’ve not heard The Sibelius but folks who have love them. Plus Harley has an excellent You Tube channel. Good luck. I’ve given some thought to attempting this myself. My suggestion is to allow yourself access to the insides to play with damping materials before finishing.
 
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Room treatment and room correction (DSP) will be your biggest bang for the buck. Having DSP in the Wiim should be very beneficial. And looking at the speaker curves, maybe you'll want to add a subwoofer or two down the road.
Yeah, the room would benefit from some attention for sure.
I thought you might be going for this … I’ve not heard The Sibelius but folks who have love them. Plus Harley has an excellent You Tube channel. Good luck. I’ve given some thought to attempting this myself. My suggestion is to allow yourself access to the insides to play with damping materials before finishing.
We decided to make the rear panel removable with some cleats + gasket tape to maintain an airtight seal.

A bit more progress over the past two days. Drivers and parts arrived. My hole saws are all pretty dull, so making the braces was more tedious than it usually would be.
 
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Keep posting pictures! It's fun to see speakers going together. How are you going to finish the plywood?
 
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Is that multi-hole pattern part of the spec or just random?
 
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Nice project.
Make sure to experiment with the distance from bottom to floor as with bottom ports that can make a big difference.
Enjoy.
 
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Keep posting pictures! It's fun to see speakers going together. How are you going to finish the plywood?
Currently assessing how sanding and prep goes. Multiple layers of wax + buffing, but only if we're confident it'll look ok (at least from a distance, haha). Otherwise they'll be painted.

Is that multi-hole pattern part of the spec or just random?
The bracing cut-outs are random holes.

Nice project.
Make sure to experiment with the distance from bottom to floor as with bottom ports that can make a big difference.
Enjoy.
I did source some Dayton Audio speaker spikes for this purpose. They're adjustable height but could also be removed and speakers placed directly on isolation pads. I'll test the different configs.
 
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Bottom ports are weird. My Zu DW did not work in one room but were very sweet in another.
That is why have to built many speakers 😎
 
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Bottom ports are weird. My Zu DW did not work in one room but were very sweet in another.
That is why have to built many speakers 😎
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned about the room, since we really have no choice but to have them up against the wall.
 
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Don’t worry.
If the current implementation of the speaker is not working, just build a different enclosure. 😎
 
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I use spikes and Herbie’s Large Cone Spike Decoupling Gliders on my B&W towers and stand mounts … they work very well on my floating hardwood floor and the large size minimizes spike slippage while allowing repositioning and better resonance damping. You will find those small spike bases irritating to live with.
 
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What’s the overall budget for just the speakers just out of interest?
 
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What’s the overall budget for just the speakers just out of interest?
$1122AUD for everything related to the speakers so far, which includes $50 delivery fee for the timber. Really reasonable. We have enough ply left to build some bookshelf speakers for my dad too.