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  1. CaliberKingPin Feb 23, 2021

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    Hey Guys just from all the reading I have done I would like to review this watch on eBay and see if my assessment is correct by having the experts here give me there opinions.

    For this watch in eBay I see the following. The face is quite nice some patina but very consist throughout so looks to be original. The watch itself seems to be over polished as the edges are all very rounded. The hands seem to be correct as there is no lum and no lum on the dial itself. The movement seems to be in ok shape with some corrosion on some gears indicating that it most likely has lived in a tropical or very humid environment most it’s life.

    All in all not a bad watch but the over polishing and small amount of corrosion on the caliber makes it a less desirable piece.

    How did I do? Lol

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VINTAGE-OME...C-CAL-562-GOLD-STEEL-REF-166-003/233901313032Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
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  2. CaliberKingPin Feb 23, 2021

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    My review brings up another question.

    I see a lot of watches out there with corrosion on the caliber I’m assuming from the humidity from where they have lived. Is this correct?

    Is this a big deal? How much is to much? Does it effect price a lot? Can it be cleaned or removed off the caliber?

    Thanks
     
  3. mac_omega Feb 23, 2021

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    IMO its too much in the movement you presented - see the different colours in the plating
     
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  4. nicks Feb 23, 2021

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    I am not one of the uber-experts here, but I will share what I see.

    Nice dial (not “face”) with even patina.

    The case is poor. You can observe the gold cap worn off the bottom lugs, and you are correct in my opinion about the polishing/rounding.

    The movement is dirty and needs a service. There is lots of evidence on the rotor and case back that the rotor is loose. These are good movements, so not that’s not terrible, but this watch needs a watchmaker to confirm and fix.

    Humidity is everywhere, not limited to humid climates. It’s not necessarily water damage, could just be dirt and old age.

    Last, there are lots of better examples of these Seamasters. Unless this has a very low price and you are looking forward to getting it fixed, I would pass.
     
  5. CaliberKingPin Feb 23, 2021

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    Thanks very much for your opinions.


    His dies this one look?

    This watch seems to have shape lines on the lugs doesn’t appear to have been polished very much. It’s very hard to assess the dial but seems to be uniform. The movement seems to be ok but need cleaning and probably a service. The back has either been polished a fair amount or it’s just worn from being worn?

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  6. Rudi99 Feb 24, 2021

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    Hi @CaliberKingPin , this last one is unfortunately a redial. Look at the fonts and the minute markers. They are too thick, and that kind of "Swiss Made" placement is wrong, it should be under the markers, not above them. "Seamaster" is way to the left and not centered and "OMEGA" also not centered.
     
  7. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Feb 24, 2021

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    First one has a circle inside the case back. What does that mean

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  8. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 24, 2021

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    Sir...Sir...Sir!


    I know! Can I answer?
     
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  9. nicks Feb 24, 2021

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    LOL. Mentioned above....
     
  10. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    I’m going to pretend I did not see the answer above. Lol


    Hmmmmmm that the movement it lose????

    It this just not a simple fix of tightening down the two clips that hope the movement in the case?
     
  11. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    As for the comments about it being a refinished dial. Well I guess this is why I come to this forum for the expert eyes you guys have. I see the Swiss made once pointed out but honest the other two being of center I don’t really see it?

    Hopefully with time it will become second nature like it is for you guys.

    Thx
     
  12. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    Upon closer inspection I do see that the font on the sea master is wrong and the m has an extra hump.

    That bring up another question. Is there areas, geographic areas, that one has to be more careful of when shopping regarding redials or fakes?
     
  13. Edward53 Feb 24, 2021

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    Did you notice anything about the crown on the first watch?
     
  14. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    I would say its been way over polished as the omega sign is almost completely gone?
     
  15. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 24, 2021

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    No, it's more likely to be this.

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  16. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    Well that’s interesting.

    Well that part should not be rubbing on that case? So does this mean that the case back could be the wrong one not original?
     
  17. CaliberKingPin Feb 24, 2021

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    Ok so my next try. That’s for your patients and teaching guys.

    So this watch to me looks like it’s actually in pretty good shape.

    The dial to my eye does not look redone as the lettering is all correct and cantered. Although there seems to be very little patina which I’m surprised at.

    The watch case is a little rough, to me looks like it has never been polished or very little if any, one of the lugs is a bit Damaged but I think that would be covered mostly by a bracelet or leather strap. The movement looks clean. The case back seems to be correct as it’s for a seamaster calendar.

    The serial number places this as a 1967 Seamaster which is what the seller is advertising it as.

    A good or bad watch? My opinion I would say actually not to bad of a watch?

    Ok standing by to get schooled! Lol 3CDF783D-540C-49D3-903A-C4E1D3B7EAE0.jpeg B16FD3FE-AB3C-492F-8CBA-4F14EBA08797.jpeg F1F0C2AC-3A37-4909-A4BC-9BC6E0FB43DC.jpeg DF9334CE-9D11-432C-97CB-D4A61F9E37D7.jpeg 0F9BC25F-6AD3-4935-A39A-D77835138946.jpeg CCF7460A-C0BE-41DB-BA5B-3D6C21E66389.jpeg 12CE52FB-B775-4CF2-98FB-DD874AAA94BD.jpeg CE594143-E29A-4FE3-BC09-707F4C9BB811.jpeg 6999FB83-D08D-4D3D-A688-D1B23EDA00BA.jpeg
     
  18. JwRosenthal Feb 24, 2021

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    I’ll give you a hint- you should have two of them unless you work too closely with a wood chipper.
     
  19. Nepomuceño Feb 24, 2021

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    Look at this one and compare and contrast. https://omegaforums.net/threads/crosshair-166-010.89849/
     
  20. nicks Feb 24, 2021

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    Not bad, CaliperKingPin. This is the best one yet. The obvious issue is that the hands don’t match. That might not a deal breaker, but should be factored into the price. It’s up to you how much the various scratches on the case back and lugs are a factor. That’s also a price issue; this one is not perfect, but not bad. Personally I would tolerate those scratches because the dial seems very nice.

    It’s really dirty (eg the hippocampus) but that’s a do it yourself job.

    What we were telling you on the other one was that the rotor was rubbing on the case back. You can see wear both on the rotor edge that JimInOz pointed out with the arrows in his picture, and the circular wear on the inside of the case back. Rotor rub is not necessarily fatal, but it absolutely needs to be attended to.