Suggested Price for an Omega Speedmaster 321 (ST105003-65)

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I'd say fair value would be around $15-17k. So anything less than $13-14k would be a great deal. That crystal will polish up nicely.

I'm not sure anything under 14k would be a great deal.

If more, quality pictures of the dial and movement show no issues, then I think $12-14k is about right. Certainly not a steal and certainly not just going off the pictures we've been given.
 
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I think we should all consider where this was found...local jewelry shop ain't charging $14K for an Ed White. I'd bet if OP opens the kimono, he'll say that this thing is priced in the mid/high single digits (max).

OP - if it's in that price range, you should buy it. And if you don't, I HAVE DIBS so shoot me a PM!!
 
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I was never looking at the price chart since i didn't own any speed..but now i had a look on it and a question raised..maybe already discussed but i can't find any thread linked so here is the question :
How do you manage the 'special' think in the price chart ? exemple : Green or blue bezel, tropical dial , no T , asymetric T, etc ...? I suppose it is realy diffrent from each case, but is there any consortium on it or ?
 
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I was never looking at the price chart since i didn't own any speed..but now i had a look on it and a question raised..maybe already discussed but i can't find any thread linked so here is the question :
How do you manage the 'special' think in the price chart ? exemple : Green or blue bezel, tropical dial , no T , asymetric T, etc ...? I suppose it is realy diffrent from each case, but is there any consortium on it or ?

Consortium, yes, here!

Value of such components, or even attractiveness of a specific piece is very subjective.
 
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Thank you all for the great information, recommendations and insight. I have learned more about vintage Speedmasters in the last few days than I thought possible.

Following oddboy’s advice, I have thoroughly read the information on Speedmaster101.com. I also had the opportunity to look at the watch once again, but with a different perspective using the advice received, gathered some additional information and taken better pictures to address the points brought up.

Here is the data:
- Case reference# 105.003-65
- Caliber 321
- Movement Serial # 24537xxx, which falls within the suggested range of 2282 7xxx – 2544 6xxx
- Dial characteristics, as most of you have mentioned, matches the characteristics of a 1005.003: applied metal logo, no “Professional” text, T - SWISS MADE T in the right place, and long hour indices
- Bazel black 500 with 90 (DO90) in good condition

Now, more importantly, some better photos of the watch including details of the movement, case back with respective reference and serial numbers. I take this watch falls within the "good" category, no?



 
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14k that big Money!! I would be expecting a mint condition Ed White for that price, oddboy is correct Speedmaster101 will give you all the info you require to make a decision . I payed $7k for min but I'm more that happy to except $14k for it
 
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Nowadays the pricing of 321 speedmasters is very subjective and becoming more and more an art.

Why? Because buyers are paying quite large premiums for attractive watches. The art is to know what you, the buyer likes, and having the courage to buy it. Many, many critics don't own watches.

Recently some correct, or nearly correct 105.003's sold in open auction for £4700 - 6000. These were on full view and discussed - the reason they achieved such low values is that the quality of them was rubbish - Components were very poor, and the overall look was unattractive. Bear in mind other 105.003's have rocketed to 10k also tucked away in a rural auctions.

One was recently acquired via a Watch Sales website for £1200.

The state of the bezel now heavily influences a final valuation. You have to bear in mind bezels now sell up to $5000 for a mint one, and $2500 for a fair to good one. I do wonder if this is permanent.

The state of the dial is also central to the value and will make a buyer go medieval if it is attractive, and more so if it is undamaged as well. In this case its hidden under a scratched crystal which drives some buyers nuts, and they go to Nevada.

The history of the watch will also heavily influence a price. Buyers are paying more for a watch that they perceive as not having passed through a dealers hands. So a watch that looks a mess at auction will fly, if it looks un- interfered with and largely original, or has family history. By contrast, in the same auction, if the watch smells of the trade, it will hang.

the OP watch is very attractive. The movement bridges all match, the screw heads all seem undamaged and there are no broken parts I can see.
The dial might be really good under that crystal and in open auction the buyers who like this will fight to gamble as is right now - because thats what they do - while we all sit and wonder they will dig deep and fight - it seems the poorer the photos the harder they will fight - the illusion being they will buy an untouched watch - which ironically they will then " touch" by servicing.
 
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this watch looks very very nice and minimally touched! if you dont buy it, send me contact of seller and I will! 😉
 
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Add me to the list. If you don't buy it I will pay you $2000 for the connection if it leads to ME buying it. That watch is what we call a Barn Find and I love love love it. Buy it and flip it to me or take my money and show me the way.. Very nice .
 
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@vidalalex, wow, you have learned a lot in a short time. Good job!

As to the watch, the comments above say it all. If it's in your budget, it looks like a good buy!

Good luck!
 
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This texture of indicators,maybe it has been from scratch hesalit,but this color... And progress of the new member...
 
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Thanks for all your help oddboy. I have followed the advice of this forum and bought the watch - I am opting not to fully "open kimono" as suggested by ChicagoFrog, but paid between the running and good suggested price on speedmaster101.com.

Now, if I can abuse, can someone point me to the right forum where I can get educated on what to do and, most importantly, what NOT to do to the watch as fair as repairs, service and dare I say replacements?

Alex
 
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Congrats!

Where are you located?

First things NOT to do is send it to Omega.
 
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Congratulations, you are about to further your education in a very pleasant and productive way. Ignore advice from our resident experts at your peril! At the end of this saga, you will have a watch that is aspirational for many of us. Good luck.
 
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Congrats!

Where are you located?

First things NOT to do is send it to Omega.
Congrats!

Where are you located?

First things NOT to do is send it to Omega.
Oddboy, I'm based in South Florida, US.
 
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To OP, your watch is nothing but stunning! IMO it's a collector grade piece in Speedmaster101.com's price chart.

A big congrats, it's very, very hard to make a find like that nowadays! 👍
 
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Firstly send it to omega for a service...

😗😗😗😝

Kidding aside lovely watch, look forward to more photos of it, maybe with a new crystal so we can see the dial in all its glory.
 
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Oddboy, I'm based in South Florida, US.
There's a few watch makers in the US that other members have had good luck with such as ABC watch works, European watch Co, and Govberg Jewellers.

If you can manage it, sending it to Swiss Time Services (STS) in UK would be worth the effort.

The main thing is, dont change anything about visible parts - hands, dial, case, bezel. Keep them as they are. Have only the movement serviced. You have a very desirable watch. Keep it that way!