Submariner 5513 Oxidized Dial ?

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Probo

·Dec 4, 2023

Hello everyone.
I am considering purchasing this Submeruiner 5513 meter first no glitter dial. The dealer (trusted person) assures me of the correctness of all its parts and perfect functioning.
He also states the slight oxidation of the dial.
Having seen the photo, I wonder whether the watch was flooded in the past and above all how much this would affect the assessment of the watch even in the event of my future sale of the watch.
Thanks for your thoughts on this.

 

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Dan S

·Dec 4, 2023

That is not common for a MF 5513, in my experience. And judging by the lug-holes, the case is also badly polished. It appears that someone has jammed a later luminova pearl with metal surround into that bezel. Unless it's very cheap, I would look for a better one.

What is a "no glitter" dial? I've never heard of that.

 

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Larry S

·Dec 4, 2023·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Flooded no. Moist maybe.

 

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Scarecrow Boat

·Dec 4, 2023·Burt Macklin, FBI

Dan S

What is a "no glitter" dial? I've never heard of that.

My question too. Though, I suspect it’s a dealer hype word/nickname.

 

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Dan S

·Dec 4, 2023

Well, if the OP is going to indicate every type of dial his watch is "not," it's going to be a long list: "non glitter," "non confetti," "non spider," "non tropical," ...

 

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Larry S

·Dec 4, 2023·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Actually … Lets do this right. If you want an assessment, let’s see the watch in its entirety. Bracelet, full view, all angles, SN (remove bracelet), movement shot. If your dealer is not willing to provide this … walk away.

 

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Probo

·Dec 5, 2023

Sorry friends, it's just my broken English.
Glitter dial = GILT DIAL.
Moist, probably, but isn't that strange in a dive watch (yes, of course, almost 60 years old) ?
As for other photos, I'll have to wait to see the watch in person to take them.
I'll post them ASAP to get your opinions.
Thanks for the replies.

 

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mountainunder

·Dec 5, 2023

Checking the watch dial and hands with a UV light.
Confirming the absence of dots on the crown.
Inspect the inside of the case back.

Have you checked this website?
http://www.5513mattedial.com/MetersFirst.html

 

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Fallout Boy

·Dec 5, 2023

Larry S

SN (remove bracelet), If your dealer is not willing to provide this … walk away.

absolutely! he must provide pics without bracelet!

 

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Probo

·Dec 5, 2023

M mountainunder

Checking the watch dial and hands with a UV light.
Confirming the absence of dots on the crown.
Inspect the inside of the case back.

Have you checked this website?

http://www.5513mattedial.com/MetersFirst.html

I just opened the web page. Very useful, a lot to learn. Thank you so much

 

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Probo

·Dec 6, 2023

M mountainunder

Checking the watch dial and hands with a UV light.
Confirming the absence of dots on the crown.
Inspect the inside of the case back.

Have you checked this website?
http://www.5513mattedial.com/MetersFirst.html

 

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Probo

·Dec 6, 2023

Do you mean the three dots on the winding crown? Shouldn't there be? Because from the photo I see that they are.

 

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mountainunder

·Dec 6, 2023

Probo

Do you mean the three dots on the winding crown? Shouldn't there be? Because from the photo I see that they are.

Yes.

As a condition affecting the valuation of a wristwatch, the state of the watch is important, right? Additionally, the presence of original parts from the time of purchase also affects the valuation, correct?

Therefore, if there are three dots on the crown, it's likely that the crown and tube were replaced during servicing.

A crown without dots represents an early model, while a crown with dots indicates a later model. It's said that around 1972, there was a switch to the later type of crown. Therefore, the original crown of the 5513 Meter First is of the type without dots.

By the way
This English text was translated using ChatGPT, but I wonder how accurate it is?

 

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Probo

·Dec 6, 2023

Clear considerations
I agree.
Thank you


by the way
your translation with chatGPT seems to work better than mine with google translate 😀