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ErichPryde
·Starbucks? ☕
Green bezel sub.
Speedy Tuesday: Omega’s Speedmaster Is The Perfect First Watch
Green bezel sub.
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bsowers34
·Green bezel sub.
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ErichPryde
·Thanks. I wondered also.
No problem. There are two different Shades from different generations afaik. I have heard the darker green called the Starbucks and the lighter called the Kermit
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ErichPryde
·Not when you buy three in one year.
Paradoxically, that is exactly why it is entry level. Someone of middle class means can perhaps afford one or two or even three, but you may not be able to reasonably say the same thing of a Patek.
And for the record, I don't have any strong feelings about whether or not omega is called entry level- it seems to be a bit of a meme around here
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spacemission
·Green bezel sub.
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ErichPryde
·I only know the submariner date with a green bezel or lunette verte.
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GrussGott
·You can take the speedy for a "dip in the pool"? No, it's rated for 50m, so you can go down 50m with it.
As background, I spoke with 2 different Omega watchmakers about this, 1 in Zurich who trained & worked at HQ in Biel for 10 years, another whose been working in Biel for a few decades. (I've also spoken with Sinn staff, et al)
All have said nearly the same thing, assuming great condition / recently serviced, ie good gaskets:
(1.) Pushers & crown. No matter the rating, don't operate the pushers or crown underwater and, ideally, not until you're certain the watch is dry
(2.) 30m = "daily use" and/or can tolerate splashes from hand-washing, rain, etc but should not be submerged or used for swimming, e.g., most Swatches, some speedys, other omegas, etc
(3.) 50m = "daily use & light swimming"; this is where the pressure becomes important because all kinds of daily activities can create water pressure: showering, faucet sprayer, diving e.g., diving board, surfing, water skiing, hot tub jets, pressure washers, water guns, etc etc. The Omega guys said the Speedy's "50M" rating is better than most others, and speedys can likely be used for pool swimming (ie laps) with no problems but everyone said the same thing: (3.a.) it'd be dumb to wear it scuba diving or during any water sports like surfing, (3.b) they'd personally take it off if there's anything that makes water pressure, and (3.c) if you use it for swimming or routine submersion, especially chlorine or salt, get the gaskets replaced yearly. (see #5 below)
(4.) 100M = "more margin than 50m"
(5.) Any rating. If you use any Omega watch for swimming, and especially water sports, take it in to an OB yearly for free* testing where it'll also have the gaskets inspected & replaced if needed (*though this is what the Swiss guys said and I can't say they speak for all OBs)
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YY77
·Just an unpopular tidbit I always feel duty-bound to mention: confusingly "depth rating" has little to do with depth, rather it's more about pressure & immersion, and it has a LOT of caveats even for dive watches.
As background, I spoke with 2 different Omega watchmakers about this, 1 in Zurich who trained & worked at HQ in Biel for 10 years, another whose been working in Biel for a few decades. (I've also spoken with Sinn staff, et al)
All have said nearly the same thing, assuming great condition / recently serviced, ie good gaskets:
(1.) Pushers & crown. No matter the rating, don't operate the pushers or crown underwater and, ideally, not until you're certain the watch is dry
(2.) 30m = "daily use" and/or can tolerate splashes from hand-washing, rain, etc but should not be submerged or used for swimming, e.g., most Swatches, some speedys, other omegas, etc
(3.) 50m = "daily use & light swimming"; this is where the pressure becomes important because all kinds of daily activities can create water pressure: showering, faucet sprayer, diving e.g., diving board, surfing, water skiing, hot tub jets, pressure washers, water guns, etc etc. The Omega guys said the Speedy's "50M" rating is better than most others, and speedys can likely be used for pool swimming (ie laps) with no problems but everyone said the same thing: (3.a.) it'd be dumb to wear it scuba diving or during any water sports like surfing, (3.b) they'd personally take it off if there's anything that makes water pressure, and (3.c) if you use it for swimming or routine submersion, especially chlorine or salt, get the gaskets replaced yearly. (see #5 below)
(4.) 100M = "more margin than 50m"
(5.) Any rating. If you use any Omega watch for swimming, and especially water sports, take it in to an OB yearly for free* testing where it'll also have the gaskets inspected & replaced if needed (*though this is what the Swiss guys said and I can't say they speak for all OBs)
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cuonglm
·Besides technical things, which I’m sure we all trust @Archer, I see that he’s right in another thing: the evidence will be ignored.
Watch enthusiast in all places that I joined, especially in Facebook groups call me dumb when I said the Speedy is fine for swimming, some even angry to me when I show my picture with the Speedy under the water.
Watch enthusiast in all places that I joined, especially in Facebook groups call me dumb when I said the Speedy is fine for swimming, some even angry to me when I show my picture with the Speedy under the water.
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GrussGott
·Besides technical things, which I’m sure we all trust @Archer, I see that he’s right in another thing: the evidence will be ignored.
Watch enthusiast in all places that I joined, especially in Facebook groups call me dumb when I said the Speedy is fine for swimming, some even angry to me when I show my picture with the Speedy under the water.
Said differently, Omega is saying to have the gaskets tested & replaced yearly or all bets are off.
ie, according to Omega, if you're not testing & replacing those gaskets yearly, swimming might be dumb. My supposition is this is where people get into trouble: they don't get their watches tested yearly, the gaskets decay, they get water in, then call the spec BS
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M'Bob
·Luxury? Omega is entry level dude.
That said: there seems to be watches that do typically fall into one of the three aforementioned categories. And, in general, Omega mostly gets grouped in the mid-range tier.
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Speed2Sea
·Also keep in mind, the deepest recorded scuba dive was 332 meters or 1,090 feet by Ahmed Gabr in the Red Sea on September 18, 2014. It took 10 years of planning.
The real issue ...can you mow your lawn while wearing a Speedy.
The real issue ...can you mow your lawn while wearing a Speedy.
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ninman
·There doesn’t seem to be any unanimity even amongst the so-called watch pundits about what constitutes entry-level, mid-level, and high-level watches.
That said: there seems to be watches that do typically fall into one of the three aforementioned categories. And, in general, Omega mostly gets grouped in the mid-range tier.
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cuonglm
·All sources agree: Light swimming (ie "energetic") is fine "as long as sealing is intact"!
Said differently, Omega is saying to have the gaskets tested & replaced yearly or all bets are off.
ie, according to Omega, if you're not testing & replacing those gaskets yearly, swimming might be dumb. My supposition is this is where people get into trouble: they don't get their watches tested yearly, the gaskets decay, they get water in, then call the spec BS
Even your 600 m rated diver watch will have problem if you dont test/check it regularly.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerJust an unpopular tidbit I always feel duty-bound to mention: confusingly "depth rating" has little to do with depth, rather it's more about pressure & immersion, and it has a LOT of caveats even for dive watches.
As background, I spoke with 2 different Omega watchmakers about this, 1 in Zurich who trained & worked at HQ in Biel for 10 years, another whose been working in Biel for a few decades. (I've also spoken with Sinn staff, et al)
All have said nearly the same thing, assuming great condition / recently serviced, ie good gaskets:
(1.) Pushers & crown. No matter the rating, don't operate the pushers or crown underwater and, ideally, not until you're certain the watch is dry
(2.) 30m = "daily use" and/or can tolerate splashes from hand-washing, rain, etc but should not be submerged or used for swimming, e.g., most Swatches, some speedys, other omegas, etc
(3.) 50m = "daily use & light swimming"; this is where the pressure becomes important because all kinds of daily activities can create water pressure: showering, faucet sprayer, diving e.g., diving board, surfing, water skiing, hot tub jets, pressure washers, water guns, etc etc. The Omega guys said the Speedy's "50M" rating is better than most others, and speedys can likely be used for pool swimming (ie laps) with no problems but everyone said the same thing: (3.a.) it'd be dumb to wear it scuba diving or during any water sports like surfing, (3.b) they'd personally take it off if there's anything that makes water pressure, and (3.c) if you use it for swimming or routine submersion, especially chlorine or salt, get the gaskets replaced yearly. (see #5 below)
(4.) 100M = "more margin than 50m"
(5.) Any rating. If you use any Omega watch for swimming, and especially water sports, take it in to an OB yearly for free* testing where it'll also have the gaskets inspected & replaced if needed (*though this is what the Swiss guys said and I can't say they speak for all OBs)
You are not the first and won’t be the last to once again try to tell people something different than Omega says. It would be great if people would stop second guessing the brand, but it will never stop…
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBIGreen bezel sub.
In a thread where someone discussed their Polar Rolex, they said this…
And this in the Breitling acquiring UG, thread…
UG? ☕
What is next? AG? BP? FCG? OMG? PPG? RLX? TG? VCG? 🤦
If you can write vacheron & constantin, why not universal geneve?
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GrussGott
·Sorry, but this is the same stuff people have been spewing on forums for years, and this is certainly not what Omega says.
I'll take their word for it as "from Omega", given they're both employees of Omega and I discussed this with them on Omega property.
With that, it's just my personal experience, and I'm only repeating what I heard (and took notes on!)
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerTwo separate Omega watch makers, both trained in HQ at Biel (one works in Biel now), both with decades of experience, told me this in person on two separate trips, one of which was a month ago when I specifically asked about my Dark Side of the Moon.
I'll take their word for it as "from Omega", given they're both employees of Omega and I discussed this with them on Omega property.
With that, it's just my personal experience, and I'm only repeating what I heard (and took notes on!)
