So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?

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One of the most common, if not the most common, ailment that affects DA Colts is a worn out timing hand. This wear will greatly affect the timing and can even keep the cylinder from fully rotating, meaning that the chamber won't properly align with the barrel and the cylinder bolt. Because the timing hand serves to help lock up the cylinder while the gun is being fired they get battered and will need to be replaced periodically. It's not a drop in part and will need to be fitted to your gun. It's not difficult but does require patience, you need to file the hand to fit into the cylinder ratchet properly. You don't want it to over rotate the cylinder but it needs to bring the cylinder into proper alignment with the barrel and cylinder bolt.

I'll quit pontificating now and wish you good luck on your revolver.
We posted at the same time. It doesn't frigthen me more than that. If I can service a watch I may be able to repair a colt. It will be another story to find the right cases to test it.
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You're welcome. That's a great schematic and it well illustrates how the rebound lever engages the cylinder bolt. If you need any hello feel free to send me a message. I can pull my Police Positive apart and take specific photos or even video if you need it.
 
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It's a common assumption that people in our recent past didn't have the ability to produce anything with precision, that it was all hand-fit.

Except that's not the case. Milling machines and lathes had verniers on them that, in some cases, could produce a part ±0.001", which is plenty good for most real-world applications. This is not to say that there was no hand-fitting; for example, when you're cranking out parts for war production, adjusting a part a bit was done to keep the production line moving and making more acceptable weapons going to the front lines.
 
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Most excellent series of photographs and narrative Waltesefalcon.



I went by the local gunsmith with my New Pocket and obtained a main spring. Just PM me Kwijibo with your address and I'll send it on.

The gunsmith verified that the rebound lever is a fitted part as well as the hand. The Colt hands are the weak link in the design in my view.
 
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Yes, the rebound lever needs to be hand fit and it's much more complicated to fit than a hand. They seldom need to be replaced, though you will see that do need it in these 100+ year old guns we dabble in.
 
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When something was really hot (temperature-wise), my Dad would say "it's hotter than a two-bit pistol on the Fourth of July"

So here's a pistol, on the Fourth of July, with quite an interesting story behind it.



I have mentioned elsewhere on the Forum that both of my parents passed away recently, my Mom first then my Dad about six weeks later. While I was at their home helping my siblings organize and remove my parents' belongings before putting the house up for sale, I found a cardboard box that was sealed with packing tape and labelled "Fishing". What was strange is that the box had a mailing label filled out in my own handwriting, addressed for delivery to my parents' home. When I opened the box I found a fishing vest, a hat, some lures and spools of leader line, and the firearm (& related stuff) pictured above. It looked as though the box had never been opened after it was delivered.

It took me a few moments to figure out how this came to be. My Dad and I went on a fishing trip to Alaska in about 1985 and we spent a lot of time in remote locations along different rivers in the Talkeetna area. My Dad purchased what I recall was a .44 Magnum (or some similar high-power cartridge) pistol for this trip, to use as a defence in case of a bear attack.

For whatever reason, my Dad brought the pictured pistol along as well. Of course, this would be of little use in a bear attack. It's a Colt Frontier Scout, with a cylinder chambered for .22 Magnum cartridges. I believe this was purchased around 1968 or 1969 and was something we'd bring with us on camping and hunting trips. It was a lot of fun to shoot. I believe I mailed this pistol to my parents' home in order to avoid taking it on my flight back from Alaska. My Dad returned from our fishing trip about a week after I did (I had a work commitment that I couldn't get out of) so I assume he shipped the big pistol home in a similar manner.

The Frontier Scout was an inexpensive gun in its time, retailing for about $50 (equivalent to about $300 today). I'm a bit surprised that they seem to be selling for $700-$800 these days, so I guess there is some "vintage" value there. Some retail packages came with cylinders for both .22 LR and .22 Magnum cartridges. My recollection is that we had a .22 LR cylinder as well, and this recollection is backed up by the presence of three .22 LR cartridges in the pistol belt pictured above. I have no idea where the .22 LR cylinder is today.

A few years ago I got to thinking about what possessions of my parents I'd be interested in having when they passed away. What came to my mind first was my Dad's firearms. He grew up in a hunting family, and when he was very young, during the Great Depression, hunting was really their only option for putting meat on the table. He eventually ended up owning a Winchester Model 88 lever-action hunting rifle (with 4x Weaver scope) chambered in .308 Win., a Korean War era M1 Garrand rifle (maybe obtained through the Civilian Marksmanship Program), a lever-action .22 rifle (can't remember the maker or model), a Winchester "Golden Spike" commemorative Model 1894 .30-30 purchased in 1969 which was never fired and was still "new in box", an Ithaca Featherweight pump-action shotgun in 12 Ga., the big pistol described above, and the Colt Frontier Scout. When I asked my Dad about five years ago if I could take a look at his guns, he said he'd sold them all at my Mom's request. She had become uncomfortable having them in the house, and in retrospect that was probably a good call since my Dad eventually succumbed to an Alzheimer-like illness that gradually took away his cognitive ability. But it was a disappointment to learn that this fun little collection was no longer in our family. I was really looking forward to taking the .30-30 out of the box and firing with open sights at a 100 yard target (it has never really appreciated in value as a collector item).

So it's the fact that my Dad sold all his guns that makes the Frontier Scout find so cool. At least I have that as a way of remembering all the times we enjoyed hunting and shooting together.

Of course, after finding this pistol the first thing I wanted to do was buy some ammo and take it shooting. But .22 Magnum seems to be as scarce as many other calibres are these days and I have yet to find any locally. I definitely don't want to shoot any of the rounds found in pistol belt. There is a lot of corrosion visible, which is not surprising after being boxed away for 35+ years.

So, that's my Fourth of July pistol story 😀
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Great story Jones. I'm happy that one of your dad's guns managed to survive the sell off. Have a happy 4th.
 
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When something was really hot (temperature-wise), my Dad would say "it's hotter than a two-bit pistol on the Fourth of July"

So here's a pistol, on the Fourth of July, with quite an interesting story behind it.



I have mentioned elsewhere on the Forum that both of my parents passed away recently, my Mom first then my Dad about six weeks later. While I was at their home helping my siblings organize and remove my parents' belongings before putting the house up for sale, I found a cardboard box that was sealed with packing tape and labelled "Fishing". What was strange is that the box had a mailing label filled out in my own handwriting, addressed for delivery to my parents' home. When I opened the box I found a fishing vest, a hat, some lures and spools of leader line, and the firearm (& related stuff) pictured above. It looked as though the box had never been opened after it was delivered.

It took me a few moments to figure out how this came to be. My Dad and I went on a fishing trip to Alaska in about 1985 and we spent a lot of time in remote locations along different rivers in the Talkeetna area. My Dad purchased what I recall was a .44 Magnum (or some similar high-power cartridge) pistol for this trip, to use as a defence in case of a bear attack.

For whatever reason, my Dad brought the pictured pistol along as well. Of course, this would be of little use in a bear attack. It's a Colt Frontier Scout, with a cylinder chambered for .22 Magnum cartridges. I believe this was purchased around 1968 or 1969 and was something we'd bring with us on camping and hunting trips. It was a lot of fun to shoot. I believe I mailed this pistol to my parents' home in order to avoid taking it on my flight back from Alaska. My Dad returned from our fishing trip about a week after I did (I had a work commitment that I couldn't get out of) so I assume he shipped the big pistol home in a similar manner.

The Frontier Scout was an inexpensive gun in its time, retailing for about $50 (equivalent to about $300 today). I'm a bit surprised that they seem to be selling for $700-$800 these days, so I guess there is some "vintage" value there. Some retail packages came with cylinders for both .22 LR and .22 Magnum cartridges. My recollection is that we had a .22 LR cylinder as well, and this recollection is backed up by the presence of three .22 LR cartridges in the pistol belt pictured above. I have no idea where the .22 LR cylinder is today.

A few years ago I got to thinking about what possessions of my parents I'd be interested in having when they passed away. What came to my mind first was my Dad's firearms. He grew up in a hunting family, and when he was very young, during the Great Depression, hunting was really their only option for putting meat on the table. He eventually ended up owning a Winchester Model 88 lever-action hunting rifle (with 4x Weaver scope) chambered in .308 Win., a Korean War era M1 Garrand rifle (maybe obtained through the Civilian Marksmanship Program), a lever-action .22 rifle (can't remember the maker or model), a Winchester "Golden Spike" commemorative Model 1894 .30-30 purchased in 1969 which was never fired and was still "new in box", an Ithaca Featherweight pump-action shotgun in 12 Ga., the big pistol described above, and the Colt Frontier Scout. When I asked my Dad about five years ago if I could take a look at his guns, he said he'd sold them all at my Mom's request. She had become uncomfortable having them in the house, and in retrospect that was probably a good call since my Dad eventually succumbed to an Alzheimer-like illness that gradually took away his cognitive ability. But it was a disappointment to learn that this fun little collection was no longer in our family. I was really looking forward to taking the .30-30 out of the box and firing with open sights at a 100 yard target (it has never really appreciated in value as a collector item).

So it's the fact that my Dad sold all his guns that makes the Frontier Scout find so cool. At least I have that as a way of remembering all the times we enjoyed hunting and shooting together.

Of course, after finding this pistol the first thing I wanted to do was buy some ammo and take it shooting. But .22 Magnum seems to be as scarce as many other calibres are these days and I have yet to find any locally. I definitely don't want to shoot any of the rounds found in pistol belt. There is a lot of corrosion visible, which is not surprising after being boxed away for 35+ years.

So, that's my Fourth of July pistol story 😀


For a variant version:

All my life my mother had a saying: "Hotter'n a two-dollar pistol on Saturday night!"
 
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What my daughter refers to as the Daddy / Daughter guns. When teaching her (she's eleven) to shoot she wanted to shoot a revolver instead of my old Huntsman but even my .38 spls are kinda large for her. Enter the 1910 Colt Police Positive in .32 S&W long. The frame size and caliber fit her perfectly. Now when we go shooting I typically bring my 1914 Colt New Service in .45 Colt and she gets the .32, the Daddy / Daughter guns.
 
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“ Say hello to my ‘lil friend “

new purchase Sig p365 XL. (12+1)



concealment express kydex holster
 
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Well, lookie there ma!

Just shot my brother-in-law's P365 a couple months ago. First experience with one. Seemed more refined than similar compact 9mm pistols I've taken for a test drive.
 
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A lot easier to tote around than my P266 and much more discreet. At the same time plenty of fire power with the 12+1. Comes with bright tritium sights and choice of safety or not. I haven’t yet found anything I don’t like. Easy to carry concealed or open. Need to find an open outdoor range around here.
 
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This is one of my favorites. I've always liked odd calibers. Yes, it is a little big for EDC.
 
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Hi Zapatta,
Do you know anything about it? Origin, history, provenance etc. Has it been damaged where the frizen and pan were or has it been dismantled?
Nice find
LuckyLes
 
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Hi Zapatta,
Do you know anything about it? Origin, history, provenance etc. Has it been damaged where the frizen and pan were or has it been dismantled?
Nice find
LuckyLes

Hi Les,

Unfortunately have no idea about this one. It was just laying there on the table at flee market, looked interesting so I took few photos for you guys😀

Regards,
Tom
 
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This is one of my favorites. I've always liked odd calibers. Yes, it is a little big for EDC.

Nah. A four inch N-Frame? Can be accommodated daily. Not saying I normally do it, but that's more a matter of concealment ease in Texas in summertime than it is carry comfort. I tote a 3 1/2-inch N-Frame Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum with fair regularity if I can wear a sports coat over it.





Would love to have a 4-inch Smith & Wesson N-Frame.41 Magnum with tapered barrel, just like yours. Always loved the notion of .41 Magnum all my life, since I was a young teen in 1970 and thought that if I had a nickel plated Smith & Wesson Model 57 .41 Magnum with 6-inch barrel then I'd never need another handgun. Was late to the .41 Magnum game, only getting the 6-inch nickel Model 57 of my youthful dreams about 10 years ago. I've only dabbled a toe in .41 Magnum handloading and shooting, but it's even a finer cartridge than I had assumed. Range time and one deer taken are enough to show me that it's a winner.

Love the 10mm cartridge too and it's a worthwhile handgun cartridge for what ails ya', however it's not the same thing as the .41 Magnum, no matter how often that claim is made on firearms forums. The .41 Magnum is a distinct step up from 10mm in handgun power.
 
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Found this on flee market and wanted to share with you guys

Looks more like a decorator than it looks like the "real deal" Zapatta.

Still, I'd have probably carried it home if I snuck up on it at a flea market.