So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?

voere · Apr 25, 2020

One of my favorite handguns. This morning I ran 300 rounds through this P229 40cal the pistol never missed a beat in 20+ years. I have a 357 barrel for the 229 I have a lot of 40 cal. so I figured I can burn up some ammo. As far as pistols this P229 is an oldie but a goodie a tad heavy for an everyday carry. However, I do carry the P229 from time to time.

I have not been visiting the forum very much as I am working on setting up my shop floor. I am enjoying taking today off from work. I have been super busy setting up machinery in my place of business. With this covid 19 going on it's very hard to get contractors i.e. movers’ electricians/plumbers etc. to do work in my shop. Since my business is considered critical, we can stay open

My coworker’s setup up most of the machines but that left a lot to be desired. I had to step up and make things work as they should. Not an easy task it's one of those deals if you want it done rite you have to do it yourself. Between my coworkers and I we have a lot of talent however from time to time they do some dumb ass stuff.

An example on one of the band saws which is a large industrial saw they did a very nice job of positioning the saw and mounting it to the floor. They forgot to install a chip auger into the prior to mounting the saw. The right side of the saw is positioned close to a wall. So, close the you are unable to install the auger into the saw.

The saw had to be unbolted and moved a few feet away from the wall for clearance to install the auger and future upgrades or servicing Then the electrical power lines had to be redone Small issues but big time BS. Life can be challenging at times getting very close to my team and I getting up to speed in the new shop.

mjb · Apr 25, 2020

voere
...this P229 is an oldie but a goodie...

Funny that you should post this just now. I had a P229 many years ago, sold it d/t temporary financial hardships, and recently came across one for sale locally... tempted, but with the shelter-in-place I've got nowhere to go shoot, freakin' ammo is expensive and I don't reload (I don't shoot often enough and don't really have the patience anyway). The one for sale has three barrels, the 357 sig, 9 and 40. The one I had was the 357 which was a nice round, but very expensive. I still have a box of shells for it though, and the speed loader.

The guy is asking $800 for it. I haven't seen it yet.

larryganz · Apr 25, 2020

mjb
Funny that you should post this just now. I had a P229 many years ago, sold it d/t temporary financial hardships, and recently came across one for sale locally... tempted, but with the shelter-in-place I've got nowhere to go shoot, freakin' ammo is expensive and I don't reload (I don't shoot often enough and don't really have the patience anyway). The one for sale has three barrels, the 357 sig, 9 and 40. The one I had was the 357 which was a nice round, but very expensive. I still have a box of shells for it though, and the speed loader.

The guy is asking $800 for it. I haven't seen it yet.

For all three calibers that is a good deal - Do it.

Larry - CEO Enablers R Us

valkyrie_rider · Apr 25, 2020

Since we are talking Sigs... here goes my p220 Equinox.

Nice trigger, pretty wood grips (Hogue), factory sights are tritium and fiber (front).

larryganz · Apr 25, 2020

Nice Sigs above ^

My bedside pistol is the P229 Scorpion in 9mm with threaded barrel. I comes ceracoted with SRT, beavertail, and night sights. I love the feel of the Hogue G-10 grips over any other grip. It's easy to hang onto, even with sweaty hands. And it's my most accurate pistol to date.

I have two Sig brand barrels and AAC suppressor pistons in both 1/2x28 and 13.5x1LH. The 1/2x28 was a limited run for military or LEO that I was lucky to find, so I can swap the suppressor back and forth between my Sig, Glock, and FN FNS-9 without a piston change.

voere · Apr 25, 2020

Sig P220 with the slide refinished nickel over hard chrome, The picture does not do the slide justice. The picture was taken after a range session.

ras47 · Apr 25, 2020

My "warning shots" are 12GA beanbag rounds. As I've mellowed with age I have taken to loading two beanbag rounds first, followed by 5 rounds of 4-Buck. I back this up with a Glock 23 loaded with Glaser Safety Slugs - silver tips.

warrydog · Apr 26, 2020

I’ve never seen a generic scope like this before. Ota inside a diamond does not come up in a google search. The only other markings on it are “Japan”. Anyone have any ideas?

Professor · Apr 26, 2020

"OTA" stands for "Optical Tube Assembly". Perhaps a Japanese company chose this as a logo.
The tubes for making telescopes can be bought separately for the purpose of manufacturing or custom made telescopes.

Mtek · Apr 27, 2020

Anyone have a Tyler T #3r available in stainless? Looking for one for my 66. These things are hard to find.

valkyrie_rider · Apr 27, 2020

Got mention the HK Expert (the only HK aside the 'Elite' that actually has a good stock trigger).

This one was custom cerakoted in FDE (Flat Dark Earth).

noelekal · Apr 27, 2020

I've been dabbling a bit in Colt Government Model gathering lately. Gathered in something a bit different. It's a Colt National Match, but with a twist. It's chambered for the .38 Special, a revolver cartridge. Specifically the .38 Special as prepared for target shooting with a flush loaded wad cutter bullet over a suitably mild charge of powder.

Took pity on this one which has been "rode hard and put up wet." Was finish impaired which made its price more attractive for the person who wants to get to know the peculiarities of this variant Colt. I'd long been curious about this hard-to-find version of the Colt Government Model. It appears that someone clamped the pistol in a vise at some point without the protection of padding. When the pistol arrived it had a non-factory stainless steel barrel bushing which was so tight it was that it was a chore to remove, even with a bushing wrench. Getting into the inwardness of the thing, found it to show signs of heavy shooting use. One thing about it, the pistol is slick and smooth.

This model is different in that it is a blow-back design. I'd never studied them so did not know that. There are no locking lugs on barrel or slide. https://revivaler.com/colt-m1911-gold-cup-national-match-38-special/

I carefully cleaned the accumulation of crud out of it, lubricated it and replaced the stainless steel barrel bushing with a properly fitting blued National Match bushing that gave a tight, but pleasing fit on the Mark III barrel revision. My local gunsmith can come up with some esoteric parts and discovered the properly fitting bushing among the drawers full over various barrel bushings he has on hand.

This pistol has a fairly low serial number and dates to 1961. Barrels were redesigned three times during production life. The serial numbered frames were apparently used willy-nilly by Colt to make up pistols as required throughout the model's production life so it's entirely proper to have an early frame with a Mark III barrel installed.

The markings on the pistol's factory magazine. Magazine holds five rounds which is all that is required for the stages in the old Bulls-Eye competition.

The hideous non-factory stainless steel barrel bushing which was an offense to the eye.

Much better. A proper barrel bushing that fits the .38 Special barrel with its external dimensions of .600". Condition of the bushing even looks to match the pistol's condition as if it belonged there.

It was a pretty pony once when it was new, before the ravages of Bubba with his ham-handedness and neglect took a toll of the brilliant blued exterior surfaces. Don't know what could be done with its surfaces now as the marring is deep enough to make for a problem to remove. Hoping to go give it some exercise sometime this week. I admire the purebred target guns the firearms makers once produced. If it'll group gratifyingly it can sure enjoy an honored semi-retirement here at the Home For Wayward Guns.

lindo · Apr 27, 2020

Thanks for a nice story of resurrection. I too had a long love affair with old .45 Govt Models, which were often unfairly maligned when all they needed was a little work. I had a dealer's licence for twenty years and used to look out for pieces I could pick up cheaply and restore to good working order and accuracy.

I and a few friends used to use them almost exclusively in Practical Pistol Competition matches on an isolated bush property, where we constructed ranges with moving targets, pop-ups, hostage shoots and a house clearing set-up in a run down shack. Great days.

asrnj77 · Apr 28, 2020

ras47
My "warning shots" are 12GA beanbag rounds. As I've mellowed with age I have taken to loading two beanbag rounds first, followed by 5 rounds of 4-Buck. I back this up with a Glock 23 loaded with Glaser Safety Slugs - silver tips.

The problem is that in a stressful situation you have to wonder if you’re hitting your target with a beanbag or buckshot. Did you fire one round or two? Were you expecting the light recoil of a beanbag and suddenly got the shoulder jarring recoil of buck?

Not saying it doesn’t work but mixing less than lethal and lethal in the same weapon seems to be asking for issues.

ras47 · Apr 28, 2020

asrnj77
The problem is that in a stressful situation you have to wonder if you’re hitting your target with a beanbag or buckshot. Did you fire one round or two? Were you expecting the light recoil of a beanbag and suddenly got the shoulder jarring recoil of buck?

Not saying it doesn’t work but mixing less than lethal and lethal in the same weapon seems to be asking for issues.

It's a huge compromise, something I generally abhor. But as I've mellowed with age, I no longer feel I can kill some drug-addled kid if he's trying to steal my tv. I'll let the police handle that. In the old days, my front door was my Rubicon Line. Cross it and you're threatening my family. Only one way to deal with that - fast and lethally. But with a neighborhood full of kids, and some of them not the brightest bulbs in the box, if I do experience a break-in it's probably something like kids being jackasses. Now, anybody comes up the stairs to where my family is sleeping and all bets are off. But kids being kids warrant a but-stroke or beanbag. Ruin their whole night, but nobody dies. I guess I'm not the badass I used to be.

I first got the idea for beanbag rounds when we had black bears getting in our trash all the time. One evening at dusk I walked outside to find one up to his elbows in our garbage. I yelled and waved my arms (from a distance) to scare him off. He was decent size, maybe 400 lbs, and clearly didn't care about me. He was lying on his side, lounging on the driveway, enjoying his smorgasbord of refuse. He looked up at me, then went right back to sticking his nose into a can of something. Cheeky bastard! When I retrieved my Mossberg before making a second approach I felt things had tipped in my favor. Shooting him was only a last resort. I'd run like hell before shooting a bear. But moving any closer mano a mano with a black bear would be foolish. When I racked the slide of the shotgun the bear vanished. He didn't just run away - he vanished - like smoke. I don't know where he went but he dematerialized and was gone.

MikiJ · Apr 28, 2020

asrnj77
The problem is that in a stressful situation you have to wonder if you’re hitting your target with a beanbag or buckshot. Did you fire one round or two? Were you expecting the light recoil of a beanbag and suddenly got the shoulder jarring recoil of buck?

Not saying it doesn’t work but mixing less than lethal and lethal in the same weapon seems to be asking for issues.

If you're in a situation that you're concerned for you and or your family it sure isn't the time for beanbags.
The only shot that counts in a gun fight is the first shot. Plain and simple: "Shot to Kill"!

Lostpuppy116 · Apr 28, 2020

Ras47 has a defense strategy that works for that home. No different than a machine gun belt loaded with a tracer every fifth round or a police shotgun running slugs with beanbags on the side saddle or a trained German Shepherd. Or a 90 year old with a .22 revolver because that is what he feels confident in. When I turn 90, I hope I can wield a 9mm effectively, but if it is a .22, then so be it and no steel frame .44 magnum is even in the cards.
Depending on the country, the laws will determine the option of baseball/cricket bat or firearm for home defense.
As an aside, I googled bear attacks and was surprised by the number of 9mm and other pistols being used in bear attacks with success by the pistol user. Success here being person not dying and/or bear dying or running off. Bullets were normally full metal jacket and not hollow points. Great read.

Professor · Apr 28, 2020

Lostpuppy116
I googled bear attacks and was surprised by the number of 9mm and other pistols being used in bear attacks with success by the pistol user.

An off duty female cop had a real failure using a .380 against a 500+ lb Black Bear here in Tennessee years ago.
Black Bear that big are very rare in Tennessee, they seldom reach 300+ lb.
This bear had carried off a nine year old girl and was eating her when the cop emptied the .380 into its head at close range with no effect at all.
The skull of the Black Bear is very different from that of other bears. The brain case is narrow and almond shaped. A bullet through the eye socket from head on can pass right through without touching the brain case. A bullet hitting above the eyes can pass through a lot of flesh without touching the very low set brain case.
Best way to reach the brain of the Black Bear is through the nose. The nasal cavity is very large compared to other bears and goes straight back to the very low set brain. Next best is through the open mouth.

Widows Son · Apr 28, 2020

voere
One of my favorite handguns. This morning I ran 300 rounds through this P229 40cal the pistol never missed a beat in 20+ years. I have a 357 barrel for the 229 I have a lot of 40 cal. so I figured I can burn up some ammo. As far as pistols this P229 is an oldie but a goodie a tad heavy for an everyday carry. However, I do carry the P229 from time to time.

I have not been visiting the forum very much as I am working on setting up my shop floor. I am enjoying taking today off from work. I have been super busy setting up machinery in my place of business. With this covid 19 going on it's very hard to get contractors i.e. movers’ electricians/plumbers etc. to do work in my shop. Since my business is considered critical, we can stay open

My coworker’s setup up most of the machines but that left a lot to be desired. I had to step up and make things work as they should. Not an easy task it's one of those deals if you want it done rite you have to do it yourself. Between my coworkers and I we have a lot of talent however from time to time they do some dumb ass stuff.

An example on one of the band saws which is a large industrial saw they did a very nice job of positioning the saw and mounting it to the floor. They forgot to install a chip auger into the prior to mounting the saw. The right side of the saw is positioned close to a wall. So, close the you are unable to install the auger into the saw.

The saw had to be unbolted and moved a few feet away from the wall for clearance to install the auger and future upgrades or servicing Then the electrical power lines had to be redone Small issues but big time BS. Life can be challenging at times getting very close to my team and I getting up to speed in the new shop.

Widows Son · Apr 28, 2020

I became a believer in my 229 40 when I took it to police firearms instructor school. Fired tons of rounds over a two week class, never skipped a beat. The older Sig's do like to run lubed though. They are heavy though, too heavy for CCW IMHO. We then went to the 226 40 with a rail. Went to a two day low level light combat course, again the sig was flawless. We've since gone to the sig 320 in 9mm.