Snoopy - just got a call - do I or don't I?

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It's not. Please see my explanation below. Omega should not have made a promise like that or else the watch is as good as Casio. All of this, limited not by piece, was rubbish on their part. They were never clear about that either, so we don't know how many pieces were made or for how long production is going to run. It was a case of them seeing how many orders they could hype up, and what they could fulfil in order to get maximum money. This is not good business for anyone who wants to believe their limited edition hype in the future. I put in a huge effort and a lot of money for something that I didn't want to see splattered all around Ebay and having chancers come along and pickup easily.
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All I hear is me me me. Fair enough. But it says quite a bit about who you are. Most people enjoy watch collecting for the sake of it. If value retention is your primary concern, maybe mass produced luxury goods are not where you should be expending effort at all.
 
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It's not. Please see my explanation below. Omega should not have made a promise like that or else the watch is as good as Casio. All of this, limited not by piece, was rubbish on their part. They were never clear about that either, so we don't know how many pieces were made or for how long production is going to run. It was a case of them seeing how many orders they could hype up, and what they could fulfil in order to get maximum money. This is not good business for anyone who wants to believe their limited edition hype in the future. I put in a huge effort and a lot of money for something that I didn't want to see splattered all around Ebay and having chancers come along and pickup easily.
What do you mean by putting in the effort? Did you pay for it up front, or just get on a waiting list? With my white 3861 I contacted a boutique, they had 25 or more people on the waiting list and only one prepaid order. Told me they were expecting two that week and the second one would be mine if I paid for it first. So I did, and I got it 4 days later. I don't see your issue with them.
 
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I paid half up front before it was released and got mine a little over a year after release. I put in the effort up front but I still want Omega to produce them so other ppl can enjoy the watch.
 
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I put in the effort up front but I still want Omega to produce them so other ppl can enjoy the watch.
This is the way.
 
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All I hear is me me me. Fair enough. But it says quite a bit about who you are. Most people enjoy watch collecting for the sake of it. If value retention is your primary concern, maybe mass produced luxury goods are not where you should be expending effort at all.
But you are missing the point. This was not supposed to be a mass-produced piece, or else I would not have bothered waiting for it. Why would you wait 3.5 years for a mass-produced item? Omega is starting to lose its credibility. In that case, I would rather put my name down for a ROLEX, and at least in 10 years time, it would still have value.
 
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I paid half up front before it was released and got mine a little over a year after release. I put in the effort up front but I still want Omega to produce them so other ppl can enjoy the watch.
That's not how it should work. It should be on a first-come, first-served basis, and I am glad that the Main OB where I got mine honoured that. And that they maintained a professional image. Omega didn't require a deposit for this watch or purchasing history. I remember reading all the posts on here at the time of release about how people would be guaranteed one by placing a deposit. I believe most of those people are either still waiting or have had their deposits returned. This is how it should be because Omega needs to be fair and honour those who made an effort to get the watch and not just try to buy it and beat the queue. That's life; we all miss the boat sometimes, but there are still other places to get the watch, like Ebay as soon as it hopefully gets pulled from the market. Next time, the buyers will have to get off the sofa more quickly.
 
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But you are missing the point. This was not supposed to be a mass-produced piece, or else I would not have bothered waiting for it. Why would you wait 3.5 years for a mass-produced item? Omega is starting to lose its credibility. In that case, I would rather put my name down for a ROLEX, and at least in 10 years time, it would still have value.

So you wouldn’t wait 3.5 years for a “mass produced” Omega, but you would wait 10 years for an even more mass produced Rolex, made in far greater numbers?

If you’re trying to invest in watches for money, then fine. Your choice, your money, but just be clear about what you’re in it for.

Otherwise I go back to my previous post and the original reason for this thread. Buy the watch because you love it, wear it in good health and don’t worry about what it’s worth because its value comes from its worth to you, not what the market says. I wasn’t sure originally, which is why I started the thread. On viewing and trying on, I was smitten, which is why I now own and enjoy the watch.
 
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So you wouldn’t wait 3.5 years for a “mass produced” Omega, but you would wait 10 years for an even more mass produced Rolex, made in far greater numbers?

If you’re trying to invest in watches for money, then fine. Your choice, your money, but just be clear about what you’re in it for.

Otherwise I go back to my previous post and the original reason for this thread. Buy the watch because you love it, wear it in good health and don’t worry about what it’s worth because its value comes from its worth to you, not what the market says. I wasn’t sure originally, which is why I started the thread. On viewing and trying on, I was smitten, which is why I now own and enjoy the watch.
There are several reasons why I purchased it.
I like the look and theme of the watch.
It was supposed to be limited.
I did not want it to depreciate as such.
It is something that I can sell on, or hand over without any issues one day.
It lasts.

And yes, I would rather wait for a so-called mass-produced Rolex if they maintain or appreciate in value compared to a so-called limited Omega that finds itself splattered all over eBay at an eventual loss.

I told my OB a similar thing while I was waiting, and they apologised for the wait. They really tried their best and came up good on their word, but Omega Head Office has really bunged some of their customers up if they keep this watch ongoing.

I'm sorry for those who are still waiting, but they really should have gotten in on day one. They still have times on eBay, and I would advise them to avoid the stupidity of waiting for it, and pay over the odds before it becomes out of reach.
 
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There are several reasons why I purchased it.
I like the look and theme of the watch.
It was supposed to be limited.
I did not want it to depreciate as such.
It is something that I can sell on, or hand over without any issues one day.
It lasts.

And yes, I would rather wait for a so-called mass-produced Rolex if they maintain or appreciate in value compared to a so-called limited Omega that finds itself splattered all over eBay at an eventual loss.

I told my OB a similar thing while I was waiting, and they apologised for the wait. They really tried their best and came up good on their word, but Omega Head Office has really bunged some of their customers up if they keep this watch ongoing.

I'm sorry for those who are still waiting, but they really should have gotten in on day one. They still have times on eBay, and I would advise them to avoid the stupidity of waiting for it, and pay over the odds before it becomes out of reach.

So you're pissed off that you bought a watch that Omega has made a few more of than you think they should have done, and you might not be able to make a profit or even your money back by selling it on.

From your list of reasons:

I like the look and theme of the watch. >>> great then why not enjoy and keep it
It was supposed to be limited. >>> it is, just not as much as you might like but Omega is a business out to make a profit (unlike most watch collectors) and so they're going to keep fulfilling demand if it's there
I did not want it to depreciate as such. >>> tough, it's a free market, it will be worth what someone else is prepared to pay for it
It is something that I can sell on, or hand over without any issues one day. >>> you can, just maybe not for what you expected you might sell it for
It lasts. >>> it does and it will if looked after

Sorry, really don't understand your stance here, other than you want Omega to make commercial decisions to limited their production and profits to ensure that the watch you bought becomes an appreciating asset. If this is your game then I do think you're on the wrong watch brand forum.
 
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the resale price of the snoopy is not my main problem, on the other hand its low readability is, but I still love it terribly
 
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I wish Omega would pull it fast because I see too many people with call ups for my liking and Ebay is getting full of pre-owned items. Some of us waited years and went through turmoil to get one.

It's not good when you hear of cases of AD's giving them out to anyone that comes along, or people having waited less than a year.

Omega is milking this watch too far.
Are you trolling us? How does someone else's experience affect your enjoyment of the watch in any way? If you're a flipper and you hoped to make money by speculating on a watch that is NOT an LE, then that's karma for you. Whine as much as you want, but you got what you deserved.

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Are you trolling us? How does someone else's experience affect your enjoyment of the watch in any way? If you're a flipper and you hoped to make money by speculating on a watch that is NOT an LE, then that's karma for you. Whine as much as you want, but you got what you deserved.

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Member since Sunday and 7 posts moaning about the potential for Snoopy prices to drop. Reckon you're spot on there.

Anyway, to bring back some enjoyment of the watch in question, have a photo of the watch I did buy and have no intention of selling on for a profit or otherwise, because it's so damn good. Currently on the 3861 bracelet that I finally got around to putting on it and sizing up.

 
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That's not how it should work. It should be on a first-come, first-served basis, and I am glad that the Main OB where I got mine honoured that. And that they maintained a professional image. Omega didn't require a deposit for this watch or purchasing history. I remember reading all the posts on here at the time of release about how people would be guaranteed one by placing a deposit. I believe most of those people are either still waiting or have had their deposits returned. This is how it should be because Omega needs to be fair and honour those who made an effort to get the watch and not just try to buy it and beat the queue. That's life; we all miss the boat sometimes, but there are still other places to get the watch, like Ebay as soon as it hopefully gets pulled from the market. Next time, the buyers will have to get off the sofa more quickly.
Life isn't fair and we don't always get what we want. I was one of the first at my OB to put a deposit down but was like 18th to get mine. Other big spenders got theirs first and probably flipped it for all I know. That's life. Some people waited 4 years to get theirs and are probably pissed I got mine in a year.

Just because the market value of mine went down the last 3 years isn't diminishing the enjoyment I'm getting out of mine (YMMV).
 
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I suspect a good percentage of the buyers, even when they swear they didn't buy it to make money, still have dreams of the Snoopy 50th going to the same level as the Snoopy 45th. It isn't going to happen, but dreams die hard.
 
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I suspect a good percentage of the buyers, even when they swear they didn't buy it to make money, still have dreams of the Snoopy 50th going to the same level as the Snoopy 45th. It isn't going to happen, but dreams die hard.
I just want it to have it. But not enough to pay 5-10k over retail for it. If I can get one before they pull it, fine, but I won’t lose any sleep over it.
 
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Omega Head Office has really bunged some of their customers up if they keep this watch ongoing.
I suspect most people here are watch collectors versus rare baubles collectors as you describe yourself, so unfortunately you likely won't get much sympathy for your position.

Watch collectors like the piece for the piece, assign a personal monetary value that aligns with their love of the piece, and then acquire & enjoy the piece for the price paid and time taken.

For me the Snoopy is great and if it's available when I get to my AD in Nov, I may get one, but it's competing with the UD, the 60th, white speedy, and few others I've requested.

If I buy it I don't care who else has one, how long they waited, what they paid, or anything about their transaction since I'm buying the watch for my enjoyment of the watch, not the arbitrary value others place on it or their experience ... but, for me, the more the merrier!

... and I won't be mad if you're different, nor will your experience impact mine ... so it's kinda hard to understand your perspective, but swings & roundabouts.
 
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But you are missing the point. This was not supposed to be a mass-produced piece, or else I would not have bothered waiting for it. Why would you wait 3.5 years for a mass-produced item? Omega is starting to lose its credibility. In that case, I would rather put my name down for a ROLEX, and at least in 10 years time, it would still have value.
i think your point is wrong. when this watch was annouced, although it wasn't mass produced, it was still a "regular" catalog item.
 
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i think your point is wrong. when this watch was annouced, although it wasn't mass produced, it was still a "regular" catalog item.
so that really hasn't changed. if you have other impressions then maybe its some idea you had in your head based upon the snoopy history or the difficulty to obtain it at launch. I remember when it came out, I also didn't put down the deposit because of this difference vs the older snoopies. And here I am 3 years later with a call from the AD. seems fair to me
 
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Looks like Omega is pushing out the Snoopys now as many are finally getting 'the call', it's quite possible they are getting ready to end production soon.

Could be. I also wonder if more of the less serious buyers on these lists are declining purchases as interest in the luxury watch Market wanes a bit. There's some observational bias that play here, but I am seeing something similar with "got the call" comments regarding rolexes.

Funny how not having as much possibility of immediately reselling for some sort of profit can cause some people to be disinterested.
 
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Could be. I also wonder if more of the less serious buyers on these lists are declining purchases as interest in the luxury watch Market wanes a bit. There's some observational bias that play here, but I am seeing something similar with "got the call" comments regarding rolexes.

Funny how not having as much possibility of immediately reselling for some sort of profit can cause some people to be disinterested.
I also suspected this, as I got the call without any purchase history and have noticed greater Rolex availability lately as well. Probably it is a part of the factor. To be honest i don't blame people, many will only get one of these in their life and knowing that its a profitable purchase helps overcome the barriers with it later if you have to sell or something. I think although its not totally rational once you do comparisons to the stock indexes or other investment things, its a psychological enabler knowing that the watch you wear is going up in value and you can offload it (although reality might be different depending on market conditions etc.)