SNOOPY #3 Pic,s and comments. .

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God all these Rolex brigaders pea green with envy, what Omega going all out for their clients and giving them a beautiful watch with an upgraded movement and full on mechanically animated caseback too much for their 1mm increase in case diameter subs.

so they go and attack Swatch! lol.

no issues whatsoever with the watch. i prefer the gemini IV but to each his own. i love a good blue / white combination.

but the pricing. . .
 
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all you have to do is look at a chart of Swatch stock the last 10 years to realize. . they have no idea how to create a premium brand or grow profits. i believe it is the worst performing luxury brand stock in the world over 10 years.

ADRs printed up after the auction today, maybe snoops the catalyst!
 
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no issues whatsoever with the watch. i prefer the gemini IV but to each his own. i love a good blue / white combination.

but the pricing. . .

What's wrong with the pricing? At least for the money you're getting a modern movement with a complication that's unique for the range (Speedmaster). Are we seriously trying to debate "value" for money on a luxury good?
 
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I'm sure I'll be crucified for this but the caseback animation reminds of the ballpoint pen I stole from a Las Vegas gift shop when I was on a family vacation trip at age 12. You turned the pen upside down and the showgirls' clothes slid away...

Hah! I was just thinking this (though not with the showgirl). I had one where a boat sailed away when you flipped it one way and got towed back when it went right-side up.

I loved that pen. Love this Speedy also, though it costs a decent multiple of most novelty pens...
 
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What's wrong with the pricing? At least for the money you're getting a modern movement with a complication that's unique for the range (Speedmaster). Are we seriously trying to debate "value" for money on a luxury good?

for luxury brands that don't hold secondary market pricing. . (i.e basically every modern speedmaster ever except the original Snoopy which I'm convinced they lucked into and led them to mass produce LEs). . .raising price to replicate rolex is a loser strategy

see Lange as perhaps the best example of this.. .you can buy their new releases down 40% in the secondary market and their "grail" tourbillon pour le merite is a straight line down for the last 10 years at auction. asia led the brand's growth and now you can't give them away in asia

if you like the new Snoopy by all means buy one! i buy new watches that lose value all the time. but if you think this pricing strategy makes them the next Rolex. . .i have a bridge to sell you
 
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for luxury brands that don't hold secondary market pricing. . (i.e basically every modern speedmaster ever except the original Snoopy which I'm convinced they lucked into and led them to mass produce LEs). . .raising price to replicate rolex is a loser strategy
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if you like the new Snoopy by all means buy one! i buy new watches that lose value all the time. but if you think this pricing strategy makes them the next Rolex. . .i have a bridge to sell you

All luxury products aspire to be veblen goods. It's about perception, not objective "value" to the consumer. If the market leader increases prices and you don't then uninformed people (which there are a lot) will tend to perceive your good as being inferior. I don't think Omega think they can beat Rolex just by increasing their prices but they want the perception that their goods are somewhat equitable. So I don't think it's a losing strategy at all but hardly a winning one either.

I buy all my watches because I like them with zero regard to resale value. They're not investments, they're simply things that bring me joy.

Why some people feel to need to devolve every discussion into Omega vs Rolex is beyond me.
 
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Finally, it's here, late in Australia but still 😀

My first impressions and second were very different, perhaps because I was expecting for too much the first time round.

First Impressions: Too expensive and not a limited edition release

Second Impressions: I think there is much more to the new Omega Speedmaster Snoopy than what meets the eye.

In a nutshell:

  • the mesmerising automated case-back lunar show is a wonderful addition that is always kept upright tanks to the NAIAD LOCK system;
  • the inclusion of the trajectory of the Apollo 13 mission — that also includes the mission’s famous slingshot around the far side of the moon — that is embossed on the underside of the strap is a nice added detail;
  • the bright blue ceramic ring filled with white enamel tachymeter scale that complements the angled shaped hour markers and hands also in blue
  • another subtle detail on the tachymeter scale with the inclusion of an off-centered dot on top of ’90’ as a nod to Speedmaster’s history
  • the Ag925 Tiffany style Sterling Silver dial with Snoopy embossed inside the 9’o clock sub-dial wearing his famous spacesuit, a copy of the actual Silver Snoopy Award pin
  • most importantly, the cost adding feature, the upgraded movement calibre 3861
 
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Wow! An amazing release from Omega! Probably their best Speedmaster in a while. The new Ed White was fantastic, but the 50th Apollo XI was very underwhelming. Love everything (colour way, non-LE, even the slightly gimmicky caseback) other than the MSRP.
 
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Finally, it's here, late in Australia but still 😀


First Impressions: Too expensive and not a limited edition release


$16-17K AUD is way too expensive
 
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$16-17K AUD is way too expensive
At this price point, you have a lot of options to choose from!

It will be interesting to see where this Snoopy will trade at in the secondary market once all the initial excitement dies down to determine if it’s better to buy used, than new.

Historically it’s been better to wait and buy it used if it’s a non-LE.
 
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$16-17K AUD is way too expensive

Wow! It's 13350 aud equivalent in the us (per google translate). The difference must be duty or some kind of Vat? I didn't know or think it would be that much more. The 9600 usd is looking pretty good compared to eur and aud. Kindof surprised.

(I see the scary Standy is back and the cute dingo Standy is gone. Was the Snoopy that annoying?)
 
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$16-17K AUD is way too expensive
I'm not a Boutique person and this watch is in no way marketed towards me, so I have no opinions on the watch.

Interested though whether the Aussie OB online prices are accurate (and fixed) or whether they are just some kind of exchange rate calculation?

AU$14,700 below


AU$7,600 for a 311.30.42.30.01.005 (standard moonwatch these days?)
AU$21,450 for the 321 Ed White
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I find the case-back far more interesting then the dial itself. Too much blue for my taste and it's not that blue isn't in my color wheel, and I can see the appeal for others, but... I'll pass.
 
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Wow! It's 13350 aud equivalent in the us (per google translate). The difference must be duty or some kind of Vat? I didn't know or think it would be that much more. The 9600 usd is looking pretty good compared to eur and aud. Kindof surprised.

(I see the scary Standy is back and the cute dingo Standy is gone. Was the Snoopy that annoying?)
It's 14'700 AUD! that's more than the Omega Worldtimer which is only 13'550 AUD
 
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Wow! It's 13350 aud equivalent in the us (per google translate). The difference must be duty or some kind of Vat? I didn't know or think it would be that much more. The 9600 usd is looking pretty good compared to eur and aud. Kindof surprised.

(I see the scary Standy is back and the cute dingo Standy is gone. Was the Snoopy that annoying?)

9600 doesn’t include sales tax so any purchase would be more expensive.
 
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(I see the scary Standy is back and the cute dingo Standy is gone. Was the Snoopy that annoying?)

The dingo is my lying low for a while Avatar 😉


I'm not a Boutique person and this watch is in no way marketed towards me, so I have no opinions on the watch.

Interested though whether the Aussie OB online prices are accurate (and fixed) or whether they are just some kind of exchange rate calculation?

AU$14,700 below


AU$7,600 for a 311.30.42.30.01.005 (standard moonwatch these days?)
AU$21,450 for the 321 Ed White

Yes was a exchange from Fratello € as AUD wasn’t available last night on release.👍

$15K is a lot of cabbage considering my ST1 and ST2 combined cost about $16k
 
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  • $16-17K AUD is way too expensive

    For the price there is not much in terms of novelty when it comes to the dial. The combination of silver and blue is nothing new, neither for horology and especially not for Omega. The 2016 CK2998 was pretty similar to this release. The recent Tokyo LE is pretty much a reverse of this panda dial colour combination. Even the recent TAG Heuer Montreal LE is similar. And when you consider everything else, including the fact that an important anniversary is not being marked by a limited edition release, the price premium — retails for $14’700 AUD — seems a bit unjustified. Last year’s Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Apollo 11 50th Anniversary stainless steel watch ref. 310.20.42.50.01.001 which was limited in numbers, had the exact same movement and had a bit of gold in it, was still cheaper.
 
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  • For the price there is not much in terms of novelty when it comes to the dial. The combination of silver and blue is nothing new, neither for horology and especially not for Omega. The 2016 CK2998 was pretty similar to this release. The recent Tokyo LE is pretty much a reverse of this panda dial colour combination. Even the recent TAG Heuer Montreal LE is similar. And when you consider everything else, including the fact that an important anniversary is not being marked by a limited edition release, the price premium — retails for $14’700 AUD — seems a bit unjustified. Last year’s Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Apollo 11 50th Anniversary stainless steel watch ref. 310.20.42.50.01.001 which was limited in numbers, had the exact same movement and had a bit of gold in it, was still cheaper.

But, but, but... I like it.

This is why I never make a major purchase without sleeping on it. Fortunately, with my WADD (watch attention deficit disorder) and the length of time before they are available, my wallet is not in any immediate danger.

Still, that case back and the 3861...
 
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D Duckie
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@Duckie Only $14,700 on website, higher price was last night’s conversion