Shrinkflation

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If a company that isn’t a monopoly starts getting “greedy” and charges more money for less, their competitors that do not do that will absolutely destroy them.

Labour is getting more expensive, and input costs to make the oat milk are increasing. Therefore to make the same level of return on investment, and keep the business going, they either need to raise their price or decrease the volume they're providing at the same price; it's just basic economics. It's not "greed" - they make oat milk to make money - it's not a charity. Thus they will pass along their cost increases to the customer. This narrative that it's "big oat milk" screwing the consumer is just not accurate in most instances. It's a matter of them passing along the rising cost of making the product to the end purchaser in order to continue to run a profitable busjness.
So I hope you know that my initial post was a late night slightly tongue-in-cheek, old man shakes fist at clouds rant, hence me posting the text to my wife where she laughs at my plight.
Yes there are economic factors at play that don’t relate to corporate greed hence my “Big Oat” label like big oil or big pharma- I know there isn’t a giant oat cartel out to price fix the market (except the “So” brand and Silk- talk about mega corps). I am the first one to support the value of labor and resources- but my complaint (although meant to be slightly humorous) has been the subtle shrinkage- go ahead and raise the price to cover rising costs- I’ll suck that up- but shrinking the size and assuming we won’t notice is where I have the issue. Plus, when the costs of materials, transport etc come back down- the prices don’t, that’s just fυcked. After the consumer absorbs the sting of the initial price hike, there is no incentive for them to drop the prices- they continue to charge the higher prices because they can.

Companies complaining about rising costs but posting record profits is where they lost the sympathy of the public and are seen a greedy fuckers. Yes, they are in business to make money, of course. But don’t cry poor (in these unprecedented times…) while your board of directors and shareholders are buying multiple summer houses. Just look me in the eye when you fυck me.
 
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Out of control government deficit spending has a nasty effect.....inflation, which results in the repackaging of products (shrinkflation).
Yeah, corporate greed and late stage capitalism actually.
 
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And for the record- I absolutely love dairy- I can demolish the cheese cart at a good brasserie. But sadly my body has said no- so the alternatives are bleak. But they have been getting better in the last 5-10 years. No longer are we stuck with watery almond milk, there are better options now…although they are still about 10 years off from getting fake cheese right.
 
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Big Oat's response...

"Let them drink cow's milk!"
 
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This is what you get for consuming oat milk. Big diary would never do us like this.
 
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This is what you get for consuming oat milk. Big diary would never do us like this.

Funny thing is, when I mentioned that this has been going on for a very long time, my first memory of it was when Breyer's (excellent) ice cream pulled the scam ~15 years ago!
 
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I can still feel the eye-roll in texts.
When she told me of her plight with tiny pockets in her pants I sympathized and said that since women only make 70% for the same work as men, they only need 70% of the pockets.

Haha you live life dangerous 😁
 
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So I hope you know that my initial post was a late night slightly tongue-in-cheek, old man shakes fist at clouds rant, hence me posting the text to my wife where she laughs at my plight.
Yes there are economic factors at play that don’t relate to corporate greed hence my “Big Oat” label like big oil or big pharma- I know there isn’t a giant oat cartel out to price fix the market (except the “So” brand and Silk- talk about mega corps). I am the first one to support the value of labor and resources- but my complaint (although meant to be slightly humorous) has been the subtle shrinkage- go ahead and raise the price to cover rising costs- I’ll suck that up- but shrinking the size and assuming we won’t notice is where I have the issue. Plus, when the costs of materials, transport etc come back down- the prices don’t, that’s just fυcked. After the consumer absorbs the sting of the initial price hike, there is no incentive for them to drop the prices- they continue to charge the higher prices because they can.

Companies complaining about rising costs but posting record profits is where they lost the sympathy of the public and are seen a greedy fuckers. Yes, they are in business to make money, of course. But don’t cry poor (in these unprecedented times…) while your board of directors and shareholders are buying multiple summer houses. Just look me in the eye when you fυck me.
Record profit or record revenue? There are certainly some companies that are very profitable; there are also a tremendous amount of failing businesses currently.

Painting the entire corporate world with a single brush is going to yield problematic conclusions and barring certain monopolies (Google, Amazon, Facebook…) most companies do not have control over the price in their industry such that they can just raise prices at their will without any impact on their market share.

Pointing to “corporate greed” as the root of our economic problems is easy but doesn’t address the true underlying problems.
 
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Pointing to “corporate greed” as the root of our economic problems is easy but doesn’t address the true underlying problems.
Correct, but there is always an element who thinks rising prices and/or smaller packaging is just due to 'corporate greed', every company is just searching for a way to screw the customer. If their prices rise they should just suck it up and reduce their profits, or the CEO should take less compensation which would have little effect on the regular employees salary.

Anyway, there is a simple solution if one thinks greed is causing prices to rise too much....INVEST IN THE COMPANIES! Don't let Apple, Exxon, Amazon, Tesla or Big Oat just profit from you, buy their stock and share in the rewards, but you'll find that those profits are often fleeting and unsustainable, that's what capitalism is all about....winners and losers and the efficient distribution of capital.
 
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If a company that isn’t a monopoly starts getting “greedy” and charges more money for less, their competitors that do not do that will absolutely destroy them.

Labour is getting more expensive, and input costs to make the oat milk are increasing. Therefore to make the same level of return on investment, and keep the business going, they either need to raise their price or decrease the volume they're providing at the same price; it's just basic economics. It's not "greed" - they make oat milk to make money - it's not a charity. Thus they will pass along their cost increases to the customer. This narrative that it's "big oat milk" screwing the consumer is just not accurate in most instances. It's a matter of them passing along the rising cost of making the product to the end purchaser in order to continue to run a profitable busjness.
Yes, there are many factors in play but in my state grocery stores are having banner years and being investigated by our senator for price gauging. I’m not ignoring or denying rising costs if materials, labor and transportation but it’s good cover for a little more profit for some
 
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There are certainly some companies that are very profitable

Rolex to name one ::stirthepot::
 
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I feel your pain, brother. Only solution is to buy a faster car.
ftfy...
 
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Correct, but there is always an element who thinks rising prices and/or smaller packaging is just due to 'corporate greed', every company is just searching for a way to screw the customer. If their prices rise they should just suck it up and reduce their profits, or the CEO should take less compensation which would have little effect on the regular employees salary.

Anyway, there is a simple solution if one thinks greed is causing prices to rise too much....INVEST IN THE COMPANIES! Don't let Apple, Exxon, Amazon, Tesla or Big Oat just profit from you, buy their stock and share in the rewards, but you'll find that those profits are often fleeting and unsustainable, that's what capitalism is all about....winners and losers and the efficient distribution of capital.
C’mon guys, can’t I complain just a little? Let me cry into my Kashi and yell at the 52oz 1/2 gallon in my outrage.
Next year I will corner the Big Oat market- I already have my outfit picked out for the oat cartel meeting next fall

 
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Maybe buy from a company that doesn't let their packaged products swim in a cold pool?
 
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Watches are shrinking too but you old timers probably don’t even notice, you’re too busy crying into your shredded wheat to add moisture and conserve your oat mylk.

I used to get a 53mm slab of manliness on my wrist for a couple grand, but now they (Deep Swiss State) say they want us wearing “classic proportions” and charge more!

We’re back to 38mm as a culture and I’m not gonna stand for this anymore.

PEG THE COST OF A GALLON OF HOROLOGY TO A SHARE OF BITCOIN!

WHO’S WITH ME?

 
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Yes, there are many factors in play but in my state grocery stores are having banner years and being investigated by our senator for price gauging. I’m not ignoring or denying rising costs if materials, labor and transportation but it’s good cover for a little more profit for some

Same here. There have been parliamentary investigations on food prices and the record profits (not revenue) that grocery chains here are making, while people are struggling to make ends meet and feed their families. Not sure what it’s like in the US but nearly all the stores are owned by 3 large conglomerates here.

The idea that these companies are not taking every opportunity they can to maximize profits to shareholders is somewhat naive. It’s their mandate, and here they have been proven to even employ illegal means to do so, such fixing prices. For example...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_price-fixing_in_Canada

So for good reason grocery chains here are under scrutiny.

Not sure if you have it down there or not, but here on grocery shelves they are required to show a price per unit of measurement, so for something like oat milk it would be cents per ml of liquid. This allows consumers to sort of ignore the packaged price and just follow the price per unit. For issues like shrinkflation, you can immediately see the price per unit jump. Makes it more difficult for these companies to hide their increases.
 
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Same here. There have been parliamentary investigations on food prices and the record profits (not revenue) that grocery chains here are making, while people are struggling to make ends meet and feed their families. Not sure what it’s like in the US but nearly all the stores are owned by 3 large conglomerates here.

The idea that these companies are not taking every opportunity they can to maximize profits to shareholders is somewhat naive. It’s their mandate, and here they have been proven to even employ illegal means to do so, such fixing prices. For example...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_price-fixing_in_Canada

So for good reason grocery chains here are under scrutiny.

Not sure if you have it down there or not, but here on grocery shelves they are required to show a price per unit of measurement, so for something like oat milk it would be cents per ml of liquid. This allows consumers to sort of ignore the packaged price and just follow the price per unit. For issues like shrinkflation, you can immediately see the price per unit jump. Makes it more difficult for these companies to hide their increases.

Same here in NZ where it's a duopoly for the supermarkets.
Huge margins being placed on product and profits dubiously disguised by unrealistic operating costs.
 
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Yes, there are many factors in play but in my state grocery stores are having banner years and being investigated by our senator for price gauging. I’m not ignoring or denying rising costs if materials, labor and transportation but it’s good cover for a little more profit for some
Yes of course politicians like to point fingers at grocery chains despite spending trillions of dollars into debt and directly leading to inflation.

The accusation doesn’t make it so. Especially when the accuser is fundamentally benefitting from that narrative.

Did these companies just suddenly decide to be greedy? Very coincidental that an easy target like wealthy grocery chain owners would be pointed to by politicians at a time where EVERYTHING is going up in price, including fuel and labour (both do which directly impact grocery store costs), along with raw materials, etc.
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I'll give you another recent example:

I know that I'm among friends here (some days it feels like you all are my closest friends, and I don't think I'm alone in that). So I can freely admit to all of you that I have what, in the end, may turn out to be a terminal addiction to Reese's peanut butter cups. I buy them in the big bag, 60 at a time, and keep a few in a dish on the kitchen counter.

I had a chance to do a little comparison about three weeks ago. This is what I found:


Same bag (or so I thought). But do a little math, and the result is truly appalling: the bag is 12 ounces lighter, for the same price.

I am doubly upset, as I know that I'm too deep down this particular rabbit hole: I can't give them up. I am a hapless victim of the system, ruthlessly manipulated by rapacious candy executives.