200-400 reserve wow - consignor must be disappointed with results but they may not have expected much based on the low ball reserve. Confirms my bias about most auction houses
Does anybody know when they went from 6139a to 6139b movements? I believe it was 1971 but what month? I just picked up a JDM 6139-6032 from May 1971 and was wondering if I could tell without opening it up.
There may be a bit of overlap when the two movements were used so you may not be able to have an exact month when the change happened. Only way to tell which movement is in the watch is to open it up. I have a 6319-6002 from August 1971 which has the 6139B movement in it.
And Naval aviator PhD NASA astronaut Don Leslie Lind wore a Seiko 6139 automatic chronograph during Skylab training... Lind later flew on space shuttle Challenger STS-51-B in april 1985... .
Then you can't resell them on eBay at a nice profit and buy the Omega you actually want ;-) Here's mine, not a "true" Pogue
Yours is lookin good and Pogue-enough for me! Honestly with the ever-so-slight differences between versions I wouldn't bother to pay a huge premium for the exact year and model number unless planning on cashing in if they rise further. Find a nice one like you have pictured and have fun. Edit: Looking at yours and with that bracelet we could call it a "Lind"
*Does the one true Pogue bind all the other Pogues in Darkness? Question. Would weightlessness or micro Gravity result in any regular watch having the same accuracy potential as a tourbillon movement of the same quality?
I've been tracking this thread, and Pogues generally, for the last several years, though I'm certainly not an expert. In my own experience, true pogues--with horseshoe casebacks, Resist dials, non-flare H-link bracelets--are $2k watches. I sold one 2 weeks back for that. I sold one 9 months ago for that. Anything *other* than that, for Seiko 6139-6005s, is starting to get differently priced in terms of the market. I don't know what you're all seeing, but the market's starting to become clearer--like it did 20 years ago with Speedmasters. Horseshoe casebacks on 6139s--with the reference number etched around the edge, like in the earlier models--seem to command a premium; earlier commands a premium. I'd also note that the market on Pogues is still early, hence that Jones and Horan example that I got for $500 (listed a page or two back) earlier last year. We aren't yet in the general rush toward Pogues; who knows if that will come (again, as it came for Speedies), but the market is still what folks might call narrow or thin: people who love them *love them*, but there aren't all *that* many of us who can obsessively note each detail. I think the original idea--that a true Pogue is bound to be a deeply collectible watch--is of course right. I wouldn't speculate on price, but I can't see it coming down from being a $2k watch anytime soon. Anyway. My 2¢.
Out of nothing more than curiousity: what would folks here presume the following Pogue went for at auction today? What I see: a damn near perfect Pogue with fantastic patina on its original bracelet, with a clearly unpolished case (with, sure, at least one pusher that needs help). Just fascinated, as this thread's got a degree of speculation to it, what people think it went for.
Early 'True Pogue' if anyone is interested. +6 days left, 30 bids and currently £1500/$2100. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-6139-6005-True-Pogue-Automatic-Vintage-Chronograph/143971865788Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
Strong result for this True Pogue that ended today.. Finished at £2250/$3135 with 36 bids. I was out at around £1300.00 almost a week ago.