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killer67
·200-400 reserve wow - consignor must be disappointed with results but they may not have expected much based on the low ball reserve. Confirms my bias about most auction houses
Seiko True Pogue has the right stuff to BLAST off
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asrnj77
·Does anybody know when they went from 6139a to 6139b movements? I believe it was 1971 but what month? I just picked up a JDM 6139-6032 from May 1971 and was wondering if I could tell without opening it up.
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omegaswisst
·Does anybody know when they went from 6139a to 6139b movements? I believe it was 1971 but what month? I just picked up a JDM 6139-6032 from May 1971 and was wondering if I could tell without opening it up.
There may be a bit of overlap when the two movements were used so you may not be able to have an exact month when the change happened.
Only way to tell which movement is in the watch is to open it up.
I have a 6319-6002 from August 1971 which has the 6139B movement in it.
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SpeedyPhill
·Especially now it seems Apollo 15 astronaut James Irwin also wore a Seiko 6139 post-NASA career in 1974 !
Lind later flew on space shuttle Challenger STS-51-B in april 1985...
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bradurani
·we have a few of them but I doubt your value predictions will work in the real world. the name "pogue" has been thrown around for so many years on the internet for anything with that case design regardless of dial color or configuration that the genuine examples' values are diluted.
I also can't imagine $2500 being a realistic price as I was just on manhattan yesterday and seen 2 of them in nice clean shape and both were under $700.
Buy them!
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janice&fred
·Buy them!
And what if I don't?
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bradurani
·And what if I don't?
Here's mine, not a "true" Pogue
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janice&fred
·Then you can't resell them on eBay at a nice profit and buy the Omega you actually want ;-)
Here's mine, not a "true" Pogue
Yours is lookin good and Pogue-enough for me! Honestly with the ever-so-slight differences between versions I wouldn't bother to pay a huge premium for the exact year and model number unless planning on cashing in if they rise further. Find a nice one like you have pictured and have fun. 👍
Edit: Looking at yours and with that bracelet we could call it a "Lind" 😁
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Professor
·*Does the one true Pogue bind all the other Pogues in Darkness?
Question. Would weightlessness or micro Gravity result in any regular watch having the same accuracy potential as a tourbillon movement of the same quality?
Question. Would weightlessness or micro Gravity result in any regular watch having the same accuracy potential as a tourbillon movement of the same quality?
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spacemission
·And Naval aviator PhD NASA astronaut Don Leslie Lind wore a Seiko 6139 automatic chronograph during Skylab training...
Lind later flew on space shuttle Challenger STS-51-B in april 1985...
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Thank you for your time and the photos, really nice 👍
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Wlcutter
·I've been tracking this thread, and Pogues generally, for the last several years, though I'm certainly not an expert. In my own experience, true pogues--with horseshoe casebacks, Resist dials, non-flare H-link bracelets--are $2k watches. I sold one 2 weeks back for that. I sold one 9 months ago for that.
Anything *other* than that, for Seiko 6139-6005s, is starting to get differently priced in terms of the market. I don't know what you're all seeing, but the market's starting to become clearer--like it did 20 years ago with Speedmasters. Horseshoe casebacks on 6139s--with the reference number etched around the edge, like in the earlier models--seem to command a premium; earlier commands a premium. I'd also note that the market on Pogues is still early, hence that Jones and Horan example that I got for $500 (listed a page or two back) earlier last year. We aren't yet in the general rush toward Pogues; who knows if that will come (again, as it came for Speedies), but the market is still what folks might call narrow or thin: people who love them *love them*, but there aren't all *that* many of us who can obsessively note each detail.
I think the original idea--that a true Pogue is bound to be a deeply collectible watch--is of course right. I wouldn't speculate on price, but I can't see it coming down from being a $2k watch anytime soon. Anyway. My 2¢.
Anything *other* than that, for Seiko 6139-6005s, is starting to get differently priced in terms of the market. I don't know what you're all seeing, but the market's starting to become clearer--like it did 20 years ago with Speedmasters. Horseshoe casebacks on 6139s--with the reference number etched around the edge, like in the earlier models--seem to command a premium; earlier commands a premium. I'd also note that the market on Pogues is still early, hence that Jones and Horan example that I got for $500 (listed a page or two back) earlier last year. We aren't yet in the general rush toward Pogues; who knows if that will come (again, as it came for Speedies), but the market is still what folks might call narrow or thin: people who love them *love them*, but there aren't all *that* many of us who can obsessively note each detail.
I think the original idea--that a true Pogue is bound to be a deeply collectible watch--is of course right. I wouldn't speculate on price, but I can't see it coming down from being a $2k watch anytime soon. Anyway. My 2¢.
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spacemission
·Strela with calibre 3017 or Sturmanskie 15 jewels in pristine condition around 1000 USD 😒
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R3D9
·Here’s one I owned but sold last year. Should have kept it 😬
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Sherbie
·There may be a bit of overlap when the two movements were used so you may not be able to have an exact month when the change happened.
Only way to tell which movement is in the watch is to open it up.
I have a 6319-6002 from August 1971 which has the 6139B movement in it.
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Wlcutter
·Out of nothing more than curiousity: what would folks here presume the following Pogue went for at auction today? What I see: a damn near perfect Pogue with fantastic patina on its original bracelet, with a clearly unpolished case (with, sure, at least one pusher that needs help). Just fascinated, as this thread's got a degree of speculation to it, what people think it went for.
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Sherbie
·No idea, but the damage around the sub dial may have hindered top dollar
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smitty190373
·Early 'True Pogue' if anyone is interested. +6 days left, 30 bids and currently £1500/$2100.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-6139-6005-True-Pogue-Automatic-Vintage-Chronograph/143971865788
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seiko-6139-6005-True-Pogue-Automatic-Vintage-Chronograph/143971865788
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smitty190373
·Strong result for this True Pogue that ended today.. Finished at £2250/$3135 with 36 bids.
I was out at around £1300.00 almost a week ago.
I was out at around £1300.00 almost a week ago.
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keepsonticking
·I think my new one qualifies. It dates to Feb 1972.
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