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Sedena Gold/Canopus v 50th anniversary moonshine gold

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What's peoples thoughts on these two precious metal speedmasters?

I remember alot of people saying the 50th anniversary Moonshine was very expensive yet comparing it to these, it now seems good value for money.

The Moonshine 50th also had peice of moon rock, a higher decorated 3861 movement, onyx markers, ceramic bezel and a full gold dial.
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Hi,

as an Anniversary A11 Moonshine Speedy owner I had exactly the same thought:

„ I remember alot of people saying the 50th anniversary Moonshine was very expensiveyet comparing it to these, it now seems good value for money.“

... still happy with my decision from 2019!!!

BR
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If I had the money to buy either one BNIB, I’d go for the A11 moonshine. It has a ceramic bezel with meteorite (I don’t think they can put moon rock) and it’s a LE. The Sedna and Canopus should’ve had a ceramic bezel while the SS should keep the aluminum bezels.
 
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If I had the money to buy either one BNIB, I’d go for the A11 moonshine. It has a ceramic bezel with meteorite (I don’t think they can put moon rock) and it’s a LE. The Sedna and Canopus should’ve had a ceramic bezel while the SS should keep the aluminum bezels.
Yes was surprised the bezel wasn't ceramic
 
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Just to clarify a few things (as a meteorite collector)...it's illegal to own any rocks that the astronauts brought back from the moon. They're owned by NASA, and a few special individuals. I think the astronauts were given pieces, as well as some heads of state.

It's NOT illegal to own moon rocks that got here on their own. In other words, lunar meteorites. I have a few myself. They're not cheap, but by comparison to the cost of other parts of the watch, they're not that expensive, either. And I'm sure Omega wasn't looking for the most esthetically pleasing lunar meteorites, or largest ones when they were sourcing them. Just genuine ones that could be cut into the right size. I would be surprised if the piece in the back of the watch cost more than $100. I can post pix of some of mine if anyone is interested.
 
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Just to clarify a few things (as a meteorite collector)...it's illegal to own any rocks that the astronauts brought back from the moon. They're owned by NASA, and a few special individuals. I think the astronauts were given pieces, as well as some heads of state.

It's NOT illegal to own moon rocks that got here on their own. In other words, lunar meteorites. I have a few myself. They're not cheap, but by comparison to the cost of other parts of the watch, they're not that expensive, either. And I'm sure Omega wasn't looking for the most esthetically pleasing lunar meteorites, or largest ones when they were sourcing them. Just genuine ones that could be cut into the right size. I would be surprised if the piece in the back of the watch cost more than $100. I can post pix of some of mine if anyone is interested.
Thank you for the added details... but to be clear, the A11 Moonshine does have specifically a piece of moon meteorite, and not a "regular" meteorite, correct?

PS: sorry for the initial confusion in this post. Fixed it.
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As the super lucky owner of one of the A11 Moonshines, I will certainly confirm that it is an absolute stunning piece and, as pointed out above, well worth the money in hindsight.

It is however not an inconspicuous piece, so the new Canopus White gold is certainly both a beautiful piece AND something that would fly more easily under the radar. It is a pricey watch though, and I would echo the sentiment that for that price, a ceramic bezel should have been a must.

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Lunar meteorite I thought... I have one too. Sure it’s not been hand picked from the surface! That would probably make it pretty expensive!
 
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Thank you for the added details... but to be clear, the A11 Moonshine does have some moon rock, and not meteorite, correct?

No. You are not correct. It's a lunar meteorite. Moon rocks that fell to the earth. That is, something smacked into the moon a LONG time ago and blasted debris into space. Some of it (probably most of it) drifted to earth. There's PROBABLY tons of lunar debris on the earth's surface. The problem is identifying it. I mean, they look like rocks, right. The first lunar meteorites were discovered in Antarctica (rocks stick on on a snowfield) around 25 years ago, and they were selling for, uh, moon money. Like a million dollars a gram or something. Since then they've found plenty more. Typically in the Sahara (rocks stick out on a sandy desert plain). When I first got into this stuff 20 years ago, lunar meteorites were around $2000/gm. Today you should be able to buy them for $100-200/gm. Or less.
 
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Just to clarify a few things (as a meteorite collector)...it's illegal to own any rocks that the astronauts brought back from the moon. They're owned by NASA, and a few special individuals. I think the astronauts were given pieces, as well as some heads of state.

It's NOT illegal to own moon rocks that got here on their own. In other words, lunar meteorites. I have a few myself. They're not cheap, but by comparison to the cost of other parts of the watch, they're not that expensive, either. And I'm sure Omega wasn't looking for the most esthetically pleasing lunar meteorites, or largest ones when they were sourcing them. Just genuine ones that could be cut into the right size. I would be surprised if the piece in the back of the watch cost more than $100. I can post pix of some of mine if anyone is interested.
I was thinking the OP was referring to actual moon rock picked off the moon from an Apollo mission. I've never seen the A11 Moonshine up close so I don't know where exactly the lunar meteorite is on the watch.
 
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I was thinking the OP was referring to actual moon rock picked off the moon from an Apollo mission. I've never seen the A11 Moonshine up close so I don't know where exactly the lunar meteorite is on the watch.

Your indeed correct. I thought it was rock picked off the moon by the astronauts. Thank you for the great info and clarification.
 
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Here’s one of my lunar meteorite slices. This one is named NWA11273. NWA means “Northwest Africa,” because the bedouins find them in the desert and bring them to Morocco for sale
 
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Here’s one of my lunar meteorite slices. This one is named NWA11273. NWA means “Northwest Africa,” because the bedouins find them in the desert and bring them to Morocco for sale
Looks amazing
 
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There's PROBABLY tons of lunar debris on the earth's surface. The problem is identifying it.
So if you find a rock which is made out of cheese, don't eat it—it's valuable!
 
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Your indeed correct. I thought it was rock picked off the moon by the astronauts. Thank you for the great info and clarification.

I was thinking, for a moment, that NASA would have let Omega have some pieces to put in the watches. But then I realized that if they made an exception for Omega, they'd have to make an exception for almost anybody. The Apollo moon rocks would probably be considered priceless considering what it took to get them, but then there was this jack hole: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/02/moon-rock-thief-thad-roberts/582757/
 
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that for that price, a ceramic bezel should have been a must.

you say that, but witness the active conversations of people considering removing the SS 321B bezel to replace it with aluminum 😵‍💫
 
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My 2c : the audience for this category of watch is quite small due to the price, regardless, the new gold offerings in my eyes only accentuate the beauty of the A11 50th MSG (edit: whilst still remaining drool-worthy) 👍 Definitely the gold speedy to have imh2c0...
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you say that, but witness the active conversations of people considering removing the SS 321B bezel to replace it with aluminum 😵‍💫
😲🤦🤦🤦
 
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The Moonshine 50th is an absolute joy to own and although I admire these new watches I still prefer the Moonshine.
 
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Just in case anyone was interested in buying an actual lunar meteorite slice, a dealer I know has a few pieces for sale. They're $70/gm, so the one in this picture is about $800. And he has two smaller pieces for about $500 each. PM me if you want his contact info. (sorry if it's inappropriate to mention this here).
 
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