- Posts
- 18,202
- Likes
- 27,531
Seamaster movements fitted in a Speedmaster from factory.
- Posts
- 5,267
- Likes
- 4,817
- Posts
- 18,202
- Likes
- 27,531
Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Every extract I’ve seen for a soliel is black dial. I’ve been gathering the serials for a few years now.
there are a few they people won’t release to me but I know exist.
- Posts
- 10,445
- Likes
- 16,330
padders
··Oooo subtitles!And yet there has been an extract issued for a 105.012-64 soleil and at least one other which I found very fishy indeed. I too am in the service dial camp which means no genuine sight unseen extract would be possible.
- Posts
- 18,202
- Likes
- 27,531
Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...And yet there has been an extract issued for a 105.012-64 soleil and at least one other which I found very fishy indeed. I too am in the service dial camp which means no genuine sight unseen extract would be possible.
a -64 soliel seems very fishy to me. Aren’t most -68’s?
- Posts
- 5,267
- Likes
- 4,817
DLT222
··Double D @ ΩFExcept for that time period where notes could be added and in verified/ supported by records.
a -64 soliel seems very fishy to me. Aren’t most -68’s?
No, actually they aren’t. There is one 2998 known and several 63,64,65 etc. But I am yet to get above double figures on either reference be it a 012 & 003 They are without a doubt rarer than rare.
- Posts
- 2,326
- Likes
- 1,884
VetPsychWars
·Woah, you guys remind me of an anecdote.
Back in the 90s, I had a Seamaster Calendar date at 6. Steel case, white markers, but no bezel. Had come off at some point. I give Omega the serial, they tell me this is a gold-capped Seamaster and it needs a gold bezel and other gold parts.
Because I was young and foolish, I believed them rather than my eyes.
I ended up sending them the watch and some cash and they affixed a gold bezel. Then I got the dial refinished with gold pieces, new hands....
Little did I know to just leave it alone, and I wish I had!
That watch was associated with the woman who divorced me so I gave it back to her.
I have another Seamaster Calendar date at 6, which is a true gold cap watch. Wish it were all stainless.
Ah well.
Moral of the story, Omega can only interpret what records it has in terms of "we ran 1000 of these using this serial range" and if yours doesn't match that list, it's "wrong." Believe your eyes first.
Tom
Back in the 90s, I had a Seamaster Calendar date at 6. Steel case, white markers, but no bezel. Had come off at some point. I give Omega the serial, they tell me this is a gold-capped Seamaster and it needs a gold bezel and other gold parts.
Because I was young and foolish, I believed them rather than my eyes.
I ended up sending them the watch and some cash and they affixed a gold bezel. Then I got the dial refinished with gold pieces, new hands....
Little did I know to just leave it alone, and I wish I had!
That watch was associated with the woman who divorced me so I gave it back to her.
I have another Seamaster Calendar date at 6, which is a true gold cap watch. Wish it were all stainless.
Ah well.
Moral of the story, Omega can only interpret what records it has in terms of "we ran 1000 of these using this serial range" and if yours doesn't match that list, it's "wrong." Believe your eyes first.
Tom
- Posts
- 233
- Likes
- 394
Basset Hound
·Every extract I’ve seen for a soliel is black dial. I’ve been gathering the serials for a few years now.
there are a few they people won’t release to me but I know exist.
One was sold recently at the WOK auction that had an extract that mentioned the blue dial. Does anyone know if Omega are including this on the extract just because the watch currently has a soleil dial or is it from their records?
- Posts
- 2,828
- Likes
- 4,722
dennisthemenace
·One was sold recently at the WOK auction that had an extract that mentioned the blue dial. Does anyone know if Omega are including this on the extract just because the watch currently has a soleil dial or is it from their records?
- Posts
- 5,267
- Likes
- 4,817
DLT222
··Double D @ ΩFOne was sold recently at the WOK auction that had an extract that mentioned the blue dial. Does anyone know if Omega are including this on the extract just because the watch currently has a soleil dial or is it from their records?
That Watch was removed after one of the last owners pulled it to bits and WoK threatened him with legal action if he didn’t shut up! He requested various members of the watch community to speak out.
It never sold and was pulled from sale.
- Posts
- 18,202
- Likes
- 27,531
Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...That Watch was removed after one of the last owners pulled it to bits and WoK threatened him with legal action if he didn’t shut up! He requested various members of the watch community to speak out.
It never sold and was pulled from sale.
- Posts
- 10,445
- Likes
- 16,330
padders
··Oooo subtitles!Was the WOK watch mentioned above the one where Omega gave an extract then gave another because the auction house submitted the wrong serial and strangely enough both were for an ultra rare reference? I can’t remember the details of whether it was an UM or soleil/racing but either way it stank.
- Posts
- 5,267
- Likes
- 4,817
DLT222
··Double D @ ΩFWhat was the date on the extract?
I don't know. It was an older EoA though. I was contacted via social media by the owner prior to the sale at Phillips asking me to help. I have photos of the watch before he sold it and it has various parts changed and a warranty card that was filled in very recent before the auction and instead of a 'native' Mexican writing the cards as Distrito Federal de Mexico they wrote Mexico City and a false name. He also stated the watch never had papers and the extract said blue/grey dial.
Edited:
- Posts
- 233
- Likes
- 394
Basset Hound
·That Watch was removed after one of the last owners pulled it to bits and WoK threatened him with legal action if he didn’t shut up! He requested various members of the watch community to speak out.
It never sold and was pulled from sale.
It was bought by @Spacefruit
https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmasters-at-wok-auction-16-nov-2019.103554/page-2
- Posts
- 10,445
- Likes
- 16,330
padders
··Oooo subtitles!
I don’t think that is the same watch.
- Posts
- 233
- Likes
- 394
Basset Hound
·It was the one that I was referring to that was sold by WOK and had a extract that mentioned the blue dial. There must have been another one that @DLT222 is referring to.
- Posts
- 5,267
- Likes
- 4,817
DLT222
··Double D @ ΩFIt was the one that I was referring to that was sold by WOK and had a extract that mentioned the blue dial. There must have been another one that @DLT222 is referring to.
This is the one. My error it was Phillips. The whole thing stank and was a complete shit show.
https://www.phillips.com/detail/omega/CH080218/39
Look at the date on the extract and look at the date on the cards.
- Posts
- 10,445
- Likes
- 16,330
padders
··Oooo subtitles!Ah yes, the one that was supposedly sold before it was manufactured.
- Posts
- 319
- Likes
- 557
gefmey
·This is the one. My error it was Phillips. The whole thing stank and was a complete shit show.
https://www.phillips.com/detail/omega/CH080218/39
Look at the date on the extract and look at the date on the cards.
- Posts
- 5,598
- Likes
- 9,424
watchyouwant
·It's also good to remember that in the late 60's-70's the Swiss watch industry was just being hit by the quartz/Japan avalanche. Keeping track of movement numbers and exactly what watch they were used in for posterity was probably not high on their priority list. You see this over and over with companies that after several decades, find their products "collectable heirlooms". Honestly it's nice to see that they still have records at all. My research into a Longines/Wittnauer watch reached a dead end because Wittnauer, having gone through many corporate changes, has no records to speak of, at all and does not apparently have anyone in customer service who knows anything about watches either.
Blancpain is the same....... kind regards. achim
Similar threads
- Posts
- 8
- Views
- 3K
- Posts
- 0
- Views
- 873
- Posts
- 2
- Views
- 772
- Posts
- 29
- Views
- 661
