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·Welcome to the Seamaster Cosmic Club!
Cosmic is one my favorites from the Seamaster line and I know many OF associates also appreciate these C-cased beauties, so let’s make a devoted thread for the members of the Cosmic Club. C-curious folks are also very much welcomed!
Let’s keep Cosmic 2000 out of this thread, thank you.
Some background info
The Seamaster Cosmic was introduced in 1967 and produced into early 1970s. Omega was “getting with the times” and Cosmic represented a radically different design philosophy compared to the traditional looking 50/60s Seamasters. The results speak for themselves.
Finnish advertisement from 1969. It states that Cosmic is made for an “active man” and compares the monocoque case to a shell of a tortoise which the ad calls “a masterpiece of nature” because it has “no unnecessary gaps” and therefore offers great protection. Stealing a bit of Certina’s thunder there eh? As you can see, in 1969 a manual wind Cosmic set you back 199 Finnish marks. That translates to about 330 USD today. Note the price difference compared to a Speedmaster (500 Mk or 850 USD in 2022)
Cosmic features a funky monocoque case (which often keeps the movement in pristine shape, so the old ad was not bullshitting) and many interesting dial variants with no-date/date/day-date options. There are even gold-plated cases for a real period look, but I don’t think anyone’s going to pull off wearing one today 😉 C-case appears bigger on the wrist than the 35mm diameter suggests. Lug width 19mm. Surprisingly, the beveled caseback makes the watch really comfortable to wear. Tried and tested calibers 601, 611, 613, 552, 562 and 752 – Cosmic is a real bang for your buck watch.
References for the classic C-cased Cosmic are as follows:
135.017 – Cal. 601, manual winding
136.017 – Cal. 611 / 613, manual winding, date
165.026 – Cal. 552, automatic
166.023 – Cal. 562 / 565, automatic, date
166.036 – Cal. 752, automatic, day-date
Note: Omega also produced other Cosmic models but they are ugly compared to the references listed above.
I don’t know much about Omega’s bracelets, but I believe BoR (1037, 1068, 8270) would have been the most common bracelet for this reference in the late 60s. Endlinks 528 fit. I’m sure there are many more options, so please share your bracelet wisdom!
More bracelet options, credit to @tdn-dk
For potential buyers
I highly recommend Cosmic as a first vintage Omega watch. Here are some tips to help you find a nice specimen.
First, read this thread to gain basic knowledge: Learn how to fish
Second, try to avoid examples with cracked/badly damaged crystals because Cosmic uses a special crystal which can be hard to source. I’ve also heard that crowns can be difficult to find.
As the Cosmic is a front-loader watch, meaning to gain access to the movement the crystal must be taken off using a watchmaker’s tool, most sellers will not be able to provide movement photos. Consequently, you will just have to take a chance and buy without seeing the condition of the movement. Luckily if the dial is in good shape (i.e. no visible water damage), it’s a good indicator that the movement could be in ok condition too, thanks to the monocoque case which offers better water resistance compared to a normal case.
As always, redials are out there, although not that widespread of a problem compared to many other references. As is tradition, black is in vogue in “refurbishment” workshops. I’ve also seen quite a few colorful redials in green, red and blue, some of which are well printed. Often these originate from South Korea and American dealers love to peddle them. Generally speaking, Cosmic redials are easy to spot. Pay attention to texture (sunburst being the most common one), fonts and luminous tritium. In this thread you’ll find useful pics of correct text and texture for comparison. For example, my black dial Cosmic has granular texture, sharp white text & crosshair and tritium blobs at applied markers 12-3-6-9, rest are painted with tritium. Old tritium almost always looks tan/brown/dark, not pure white.
Pics of texture and tritium:
In my opinion, bigger issue than redials is the prevalence of polished cases. Some watches can handle a little polishing but with Cosmic a sharp case is a must. Cosmic has an attractive sunburst brushing which is easily polished away, royally hurting the overall aesthetic. Sometimes the sunburst pattern is hard to distinguish if the seller’s pics aren’t that great, but a mirror finish is a sure sign that the original finishing is gone as the sunburst gives an impression of a steel grey tone in low quality pics. The caseback should have vertical brushing. If said feature is missing or the lines are horizontal, it means the case has been polished or refinished.
Pics of original case finishing, reference 136.017:
As for prices, I can say that I own three Cosmics and I paid on average 600 USD per watch. Finding a nice example for much cheaper than that takes patience and some luck. As always, Chrono24 etc. is full of overpriced junk. The most expensive, collectable and imo attractive variant is the one with a black dial and a crosshair. One of those will cost considerably more, easily getting close to 1000 USD.
In conclusion, Cosmic is a fun watch to collect and great for everyday use.
My trio
White/champagne dial with date, ref. 136.017
Grey dial, crosshair with date, ref. 136.017
Black dial with crosshair, ref. 135.017
Further reading:
I fell in love with Seamaster Cosmic
Oh, and by the way, this is the official anthem of the Cosmic Club!
I think that’s all I have to say, so let’s see your Cosmic!
Cosmic is one my favorites from the Seamaster line and I know many OF associates also appreciate these C-cased beauties, so let’s make a devoted thread for the members of the Cosmic Club. C-curious folks are also very much welcomed!
Let’s keep Cosmic 2000 out of this thread, thank you.
Some background info
The Seamaster Cosmic was introduced in 1967 and produced into early 1970s. Omega was “getting with the times” and Cosmic represented a radically different design philosophy compared to the traditional looking 50/60s Seamasters. The results speak for themselves.
Finnish advertisement from 1969. It states that Cosmic is made for an “active man” and compares the monocoque case to a shell of a tortoise which the ad calls “a masterpiece of nature” because it has “no unnecessary gaps” and therefore offers great protection. Stealing a bit of Certina’s thunder there eh? As you can see, in 1969 a manual wind Cosmic set you back 199 Finnish marks. That translates to about 330 USD today. Note the price difference compared to a Speedmaster (500 Mk or 850 USD in 2022)
Cosmic features a funky monocoque case (which often keeps the movement in pristine shape, so the old ad was not bullshitting) and many interesting dial variants with no-date/date/day-date options. There are even gold-plated cases for a real period look, but I don’t think anyone’s going to pull off wearing one today 😉 C-case appears bigger on the wrist than the 35mm diameter suggests. Lug width 19mm. Surprisingly, the beveled caseback makes the watch really comfortable to wear. Tried and tested calibers 601, 611, 613, 552, 562 and 752 – Cosmic is a real bang for your buck watch.
References for the classic C-cased Cosmic are as follows:
135.017 – Cal. 601, manual winding
136.017 – Cal. 611 / 613, manual winding, date
165.026 – Cal. 552, automatic
166.023 – Cal. 562 / 565, automatic, date
166.036 – Cal. 752, automatic, day-date
Note: Omega also produced other Cosmic models but they are ugly compared to the references listed above.
I don’t know much about Omega’s bracelets, but I believe BoR (1037, 1068, 8270) would have been the most common bracelet for this reference in the late 60s. Endlinks 528 fit. I’m sure there are many more options, so please share your bracelet wisdom!
More bracelet options, credit to @tdn-dk
For potential buyers
I highly recommend Cosmic as a first vintage Omega watch. Here are some tips to help you find a nice specimen.
First, read this thread to gain basic knowledge: Learn how to fish
Second, try to avoid examples with cracked/badly damaged crystals because Cosmic uses a special crystal which can be hard to source. I’ve also heard that crowns can be difficult to find.
As the Cosmic is a front-loader watch, meaning to gain access to the movement the crystal must be taken off using a watchmaker’s tool, most sellers will not be able to provide movement photos. Consequently, you will just have to take a chance and buy without seeing the condition of the movement. Luckily if the dial is in good shape (i.e. no visible water damage), it’s a good indicator that the movement could be in ok condition too, thanks to the monocoque case which offers better water resistance compared to a normal case.
As always, redials are out there, although not that widespread of a problem compared to many other references. As is tradition, black is in vogue in “refurbishment” workshops. I’ve also seen quite a few colorful redials in green, red and blue, some of which are well printed. Often these originate from South Korea and American dealers love to peddle them. Generally speaking, Cosmic redials are easy to spot. Pay attention to texture (sunburst being the most common one), fonts and luminous tritium. In this thread you’ll find useful pics of correct text and texture for comparison. For example, my black dial Cosmic has granular texture, sharp white text & crosshair and tritium blobs at applied markers 12-3-6-9, rest are painted with tritium. Old tritium almost always looks tan/brown/dark, not pure white.
Pics of texture and tritium:
In my opinion, bigger issue than redials is the prevalence of polished cases. Some watches can handle a little polishing but with Cosmic a sharp case is a must. Cosmic has an attractive sunburst brushing which is easily polished away, royally hurting the overall aesthetic. Sometimes the sunburst pattern is hard to distinguish if the seller’s pics aren’t that great, but a mirror finish is a sure sign that the original finishing is gone as the sunburst gives an impression of a steel grey tone in low quality pics. The caseback should have vertical brushing. If said feature is missing or the lines are horizontal, it means the case has been polished or refinished.
Pics of original case finishing, reference 136.017:
As for prices, I can say that I own three Cosmics and I paid on average 600 USD per watch. Finding a nice example for much cheaper than that takes patience and some luck. As always, Chrono24 etc. is full of overpriced junk. The most expensive, collectable and imo attractive variant is the one with a black dial and a crosshair. One of those will cost considerably more, easily getting close to 1000 USD.
In conclusion, Cosmic is a fun watch to collect and great for everyday use.
My trio
White/champagne dial with date, ref. 136.017
Grey dial, crosshair with date, ref. 136.017
Black dial with crosshair, ref. 135.017
Further reading:
I fell in love with Seamaster Cosmic
Oh, and by the way, this is the official anthem of the Cosmic Club!
I think that’s all I have to say, so let’s see your Cosmic!
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