Rolex to release 2020 models

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Assuming the size is indeed increasing to 41mm, it’s a bit of a sad day for the Sub’s heritage. It’s only 1mm, but the Submariner has sported its iconic 40mm case size since the ref. 5512 was released in 1959. I once read a pithy adage about “Death, taxes, and a 40mm Submariner.”

61 years was a good run. I’m sure it will fit and look great, but it’s a bit of a shock for me given Rolex’s historic approach to form factors. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall for that design meeting.

It will be interesting to see if OMEGA feels comfortable entering 40mm territory with the Seamaster now that it’s no longer the Submariner’s “thing.” It always struck me as intentional to release a 39.5mm Planet Ocean.

I suppose the GMT-Master is next for a 41mm case size, given the Sub/GMT Master’s analogous case sizes in past decades. If so, it’s a bit crazy to consider how many iterations there have been of the GMT-Master in the last 10 years.
 
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OMG, if the 40 mm Sub is discontinued I'll be a millionaire!
After market 41mm bezels 👍
 
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If the SS no-date Sub at 40mm goes away fully, I may never end up buying an AD new piece. A Milgauss?

I and, I suspect many others, like the Sub because it isn't 38 or 41. Just my opinion.
 
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I and, I suspect many others, like the Sub because it isn't 38 or 41. Just my opinion.

Is it really of that much importance of what the specs say? I would also prefer if they stayed with 40mm and just made the lugs slimmer again. But I'm also sure I would like a 41mm with thinner lugs better than the squarish and bulky look the sub has now. It's all about proportions.
 
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I and, I suspect many others, like the Sub because it isn't 38 or 41.
I'd love a 38mm Sub.

If it has to be 41mm, I hope this is a Rolex-spec'ed 41mm watch aka less than 41mm in reality.
I'm eagerly waiting for caliper pictures where every part of the watch is measured.
 
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So, taking a hint from reference numbers, looks like the current hulk iteration 116610LV will be replaced by the new 41mm line ref no 126610LV??

The perpetual rumour of the hulk being discontinued seems to be finally true..
 
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Taken some screenshots of these PDF brochures doing the rounds this evening. They look legit to me.
 
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Looks like the pugs might be marginally thinner then?

Think you may be right.

Im assuming the 41mm size change is to accommodate the new movement and perhaps offset the sozw change by slimming down the lugs?
 
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41 mm Sub-Date and No-Date. "Smurf"-Sub in 18k white Gold can't be ordered anymore so most likely discontinued and the path is free for a blue steel sub. Hulk will most likely be discontinued and the Kermit will in some way and form make a comeback.

There is a new Daytona on the horizon as well. Larger, and apperently with a steel ring surrounding the ceramic bezel.

Thats what the birds whisper... who knows if its true.

Lets see what they come up with in the near future.

Cheers,
Max

Looks like you were spot on with most of this..
 
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Looks like you were spot on with most of this..
Looking forward to seeing pictures of this Daytona now