Tend to agree. In U.K. I would expect retail to be about £5,500. For me the 3861 will not be a true speed master, just a marketing exercise by the Swatch Group. I will stick to the 861,1861. I think that Archer did a comparison between the 3861 and the 1861. The 3861 is a completely new movement. Where as the 1861 is a development of the 861. Thus the new watch may be a ‘speedmaster’ but not a ‘moonwatch’
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