Redial constellation?

Hi all,

I’m learning the ropes and follow some watch guys on Instagram, mentioning no names as I don’t think that would be good form, but wondered what more experienced eyes thought of this constellation and whether it “might” be a redial?
Is the font a little chunky? This is a test of my critical eye and redial spotting skills/lack there of. Not a critical post regarding the watch.
The guy who posted it I’ve read nothing but good things about, both here and elsewhere and he’s clearly experienced as he has so many lovely watches pass through his hands (how he sources them I have no idea!!!).

The watch isn’t for sale and I think is an absolute beauty in any event.

Have a cracking Sunday!

James

Thanks, yep lovely looker indeed!

It’s a screen shot and from Insta so yeh, quality ain’t great...

Thanks for your response though

@Sidnos nice to meet you and this photo https://omegaforums.net/attachments/9e9e7c2f-ff3c-420e-98ab-b6e0176d189a-jpeg.826054/ looks amazing - I can understand your concerns. 😀 I am looking to get some more knowledge regarding Constellations myself. 😀
As @Peemacgee already stated - high-res photos all straight-angles: front, back, movement and inside of the case back with ref number corresponding to the serial number of the watch and movement caliber. 😉 Other photos are some extras for you to imagine how it would feel to wear this watch. 😉
Please have a look at this post - it may prove to be useful.😉 https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-cal-267.100438/page-2#post-1310706
And remember knowledge is power! 😁 So share it. 😉

"Chronometers, however, do have status over nonchronometers, as can be seen in the demand for, and values of, different Omega models of the same period. Omega chronometers are generally more collectible and command an often significant premium over non-chronometers."

You have to admit it rings a nice bell. 😉
"It was the job of adjustment specialists to ensure that all Omega chronometer movements bettered the ‘daily rate’ in five positions and a range of temperatures: the Bureaux Officiels de Contrôle de la Marche des Montres 1961 - 73 standard, for example, being a mean daily rate of -1 to +10 seconds with “mention for especially good results”. Hence, the stamping on the rotor of earlier Constellations, and later on the rotor bridge, with the words, “Adjusted to five (5) positions and temperatures”. All Omega chronometers were adjusted to meet this BO ‘especially good results’ baseline. Before any movement reached the adjustment workshop however, a rigorous process of quality control ensured that adjusters had the very best materials to work with. In any mass production operation, there is variation in the quality of output, and parts that did not meet the more stringent chronometer criteria were replaced with parts that did... Given that only the very best components went into a designated chronometer movement, differences in ‘quality’ began to emerge from the outset of the manufacturing process. These differences between chronometer and non-chronometer movements became more pronounced the further down the assembly line the movements travelled. It can be said that at the microscopic level great differences could be observed between chronometer grade and standard movements, differences that, arguably, remain today on well-serviced Omega chronometers that have not been subjected to major parts replacement."

Thanks but really was a post regarding the dial...

I am trying to understand those watches in full and share some knowledge. 😉

Coming back to the subject of dials. 😉 I am hunting for something like this - not-redialed IMO. Will be trying to see it in person next week. 😉

This spot seems to be a little bit off nevertheless - may be re-dial. Interested to learn your opinions. 😉

Redial for shure IMO

Thanks. Can you share some more insight? 😉

Carefully compare the dial fonts and position of the minute ticks with this one and all will become obvious.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-omega-constellation-cal-561-168-010-serviced.98053/

Edit: Also I am not 100% its a Connie case, looks more Seamaster de Ville.

Hi @Sidnos need clear photos of the dial to make observations you’re seeking. And more than one. As far as my eyes can tell the posted pic is not in focus.

Tons of Connies have been offered/sold here in the private sales forum so you can get lots of insights reviewing those. Good luck

Thanks @JohnSteed, was more a test of my spotting a redial skills!

I’m not in the market to buy but just continuing to learn the intricacies.... can spot some subtle redials but only after many months/years of reading up, trawling watch fairs and getting to know some extremely knowledgeable experts... oh and the expensive lessons!

Reason I posted this one is that the chap has top notch watches, as this is too, but just wondered from the vast knowledge here on the font of the constellation. It being an insta screen shot think it will remain an unknown!

Please... don’t tempt me with anymore watches in the sales forums, I don’t need any encouragement!

Thanks for that! What do you think is reason behind this defect?

@Sidnos, it’s not easy to get a screen shot from an Insta posting but possible

Omega Enthusiast as he’s called in Insta doesn’t typically post or sell re-dialled watches. His descriptions are transparent for the most part. Only one instance of over-polishing Of a case back I’ve seen but don’t really watch each and every post on his pages to ‘police’ his stuff.

Close up, both look ok to my eye, one a bit more patina-Ed but again, looks original to my eye.





In the FS pages....There’s tons of SOLD Connies that won’t temp ya.....a good way to see what’s been out there to learn from. Cheers

Cheers @JohnSteed ill keep lurking and looking!

Agreed omega enthusiast generally is spot on with description. Aa I say just questioned the second in the above pics but certainly bow to greater knowledge 😉

Still wonder where he finds them all!!