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There's nothing on that list that a 50m WR watch couldn't handle.

If it's a maschimo thing then fine, that's an argument that's difficult to counter with rational thought, but if it is only for the sake of actually keeping the innards of your watch dry then a properly maintained watch with a 50m WR will do just fine 馃榾
Very true.

I would much rather a 50m WR watch that is properly maintained and pressure tested than a 1000m WR watch that has not been maintained and not pressure tested.

No matter what something is engineered to, seals and gaskets eventually wear out and fail.
 
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Very true.

I would much rather a 50m WR watch that is properly maintained and pressure tested than a 1000m WR watch that has not been maintained and not pressure tested.

No matter what something is engineered to, seals and gaskets eventually wear out and fail.

You have been a good contributor to this thread, but on this one I have to say, huh? I think we all agree that any watch, no matter what the WR or value, must have good seals to maintain its WR rating. Having said that, more is better in my view. My Speedy has 50m WR (164.04ft). It is fully serviced and pressure tested. That doesn't mean it is advisable to take it on a 160ft dive. The fact that on paper it says that you can, doesn't mean that you should. We can sit here and argue the live-long day (as I'm sure our troll friend from a few posts back hopes that we do) about this issue. The bottom line is that better WR in a well maintained watch gives me piece of mind. It is not "machismo" as the troll put it (what does that have to do with it anyway??). It is an abundance of caution for an item that took many of my hard earned dollars to buy.

I hope we can now get back to talking GMT's, and your good thoughts on the matter, while ignoring those poor souls on the Internet that get their thrills from starting an online fight over nothing. That is time and energy wasted.
 
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Certina would be under $1000


Also Orient Star looks pretty cool.
This one is quite nice as well, though I find the rather straight lugs makes it wear larger. Also, I go back and forth over the crown guards. I do like the white dial and it winds so smooth...you can just watch the power reserve go up and up.

have fun
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Thanks troll.

You have a very low bar for what constitutes as trolling. He's merely stating an opinion, which last time I checked, is the purpose of a forum.

But I can see how you might have missed that since you have 30 posts and he has ~7k...
 
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.[/QUOTEwhile ignoring those poor souls on the Internet that get their thrills from starting an online fight over nothing. That is time and energy wasted.[/QUOTE]

So you call someone troll for no reason and then accuse them of gettig thrills for starting a fight !
 
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You have been a good contributor to this thread, but on this one I have to say, huh? I think we all agree that any watch, no matter what the WR or value, must have good seals to maintain its WR rating. Having said that, more is better in my view. My Speedy has 50m WR (164.04ft). It is fully serviced and pressure tested. That doesn't mean it is advisable to take it on a 160ft dive. The fact that on paper it says that you can, doesn't mean that you should. We can sit here and argue the live-long day (as I'm sure our troll friend from a few posts back hopes that we do) about this issue. The bottom line is that better WR in a well maintained watch gives me piece of mind. It is not "machismo" as the troll put it (what does that have to do with it anyway??). It is an abundance of caution for an item that took many of my hard earned dollars to buy.

I hope we can now get back to talking GMT's, and your good thoughts on the matter, while ignoring those poor souls on the Internet that get their thrills from starting an online fight over nothing. That is time and energy wasted.

And you do get that if you could settle for a lower water resistence your choice of watches would be significantly greater. It was probably just meant to actually help you in your search for a watch. But because you are being a dick about it, it just makes me wanna drift this thread even more.

So... Anybody seen the new Tarantino movie?

And by the way I would choose a Sinn UTC in that price range. Don鈥檛 know about jump hand function thought. And you are welcome!
 
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Certina would be under $1000
Any reviews on this Certina ? I want to buy this but just waiting to hear any actual user reviews.
 
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And btw this thread is probably posted in the wrong sub section. It shouldn鈥檛 be in modern Omega since I guess you are looking for GMT watches in general.
 
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You have a very low bar for what constitutes as trolling. He's merely stating an opinion, which last time I checked, is the purpose of a forum.

But I can see how you might have missed that since you have 30 posts and he has ~7k...

The problem as I see it is on here there is a line that's often trotted out that 50m WR is absolutely fine for recreational water activities, diving, swimming snorkelling etc. There's no mention of any caveats on conditions or length of time the watch is immersed in water, but all I can say is that I won't be taking my 60M WR rated IWC pilot watch in to the pool for 2hrs at a time when I'm next on holiday.
 
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Any reviews on this Certina ? I want to buy this but just waiting to hear any actual user reviews.
I haven't seen any reviews, but it is very attractive watch for little money. Swiss made with 200m VR. Can you find anything better in this price range)?
 
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I faced this exact issue recently and chose the Yema Superman GMT. Its limited to 100 pieces per color, well under 3000 USD, and is a brand with pretty good history.
 
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Any reviews on this Certina ? I want to buy this but just waiting to hear any actual user reviews.

Having a Certina built in 2006 I would buy away....
 
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I faced this exact issue recently and chose the Yema Superman GMT. Its limited to 100 pieces per color, well under 3000 USD, and is a brand with pretty good history.

I agree about the history but it is always hard for me to decide whether the brand history adds to the flavour when it is brands being revived/relaunched whatever you call it having little to do with the brand of the past. But the Yemas are quite good looking. Don鈥檛 know about the quality though. Have you received the watch yet?
 
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The problem as I see it is on here there is a line that's often trotted out that 50m WR is absolutely fine for recreational water activities, diving, swimming snorkelling etc. There's no mention of any caveats on conditions or length of time the watch is immersed in water, but all I can say is that I won't be taking my 60M WR rated IWC pilot watch in to the pool for 2hrs at a time when I'm next on holiday.

Unless you are planning on being in the water for years, time is not relevant to water resistance.
 
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I think we all agree that any watch, no matter what the WR or value, must have good seals to maintain its WR rating.
In my experience, this is often ignored by many posters of online forums. They seem to believe that the rating stated on a watch means it will forever be good to such depths. If you had said "it is a fact that..." rather than "we all agree", then I would fully agree with you. It is a fact, but not everyone agrees, or at least not everyone understands (based on online comments).

Having said that, more is better in my view. My Speedy has 50m WR (164.04ft). It is fully serviced and pressure tested. That doesn't mean it is advisable to take it on a 160ft dive.
This is the first I've seen you mention going to such depths. I don't dive, but it sure sounds like you are a very serious diver! Please post some pics and more information.

For me, I would trust my Speedy to go to 50m.

The fact that on paper it says that you can, doesn't mean that you should.
Here I disagree with you. I don't believe a WR is something simply put "on paper". I'm sure the watch producers perform a lot of testing to ensure the WR means something. I know the pressure tests are defined and required regularly to ensure such WR level is maintained.

We can sit here and argue the live-long day (as I'm sure our troll friend from a few posts back hopes that we do) about this issue.
Here you've crossed a line that you likely didn't even realize. @ConElPueblo (named Troels) is one of the highest respected members on this forum. His knowledge and contribution on this forum is highly valued and you would do well not to resort to such quick name calling. Click on his username, search for the threads he has started and you will be sure to learn a lot. About watches, about this forum, and about his character.
 
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We can sit here and argue the live-long day (as I'm sure our troll friend from a few posts back hopes that we do) about this issue. The bottom line is that better WR in a well maintained watch gives me piece of mind.

Well maintained is the key, no matter what the water resistance is. The problem I see as a watchmaker with watches that have higher water resistance is that this tends to give owners a false sense of security (a.k.a. peace of mind, unless your mind is in pieces 馃槈).

When I get a flooded dive watch in, I often get comments from the owner along the lines of "I thought it would be okay since it's rated so highly for water resistance" so they didn't bother keeping up on the maintenance, believing that the higher water resistance would somehow last longer than a lower water resistance would.

In the end if the watch is rated for 30m, 300m, or 3000m, they all rely on simple O-rings. O-rings work, right up until they don't, when they don't the watch floods when exposed to water.

Cheers, Al
 
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Enough of the dick swinging, let's get back to GMT watches and leave the broken records behind. Anyways, this thread has sparked my interest in GMT watches and I went out and picked up this little number today, really liked the 58 model as well.

 
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Enough of the dick swinging, let's get back to GMT watches and leave the broken records behind. Anyways, this thread has sparked my interest in GMT watches and I went out and picked up this little number today, really liked the 58 model as well.


Freakin hell, so you bought that just because of this thread? Must be expensive to be a member of the forum if you visit frequently 馃榿 The Tudor GMT is nice though.
 
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And by the way I would choose a Sinn UTC in that price range. Don鈥檛 know about jump hand function thought.

According to the manual, the Sinn 856/857 UTC movement does not have a jumping main hour hand: the 24-hour UTC hand can be adjusted independently of the main hour hand, but the main hour hand cannot be adjusted independently of the UTC hand. So if you travel between time zones and wish to keep the main hour hand on local time and have the 24-hour UTC hand point to your home time (or UTC), you need to adjust both times (and it will hack the movement while setting, so if you want precision, you'll need to set the watch as well).

I believe this is the behavior of all watches which use the common ETA GMT movements.

Another possibility is the Oris Big Crown ProPilot Worldtimer, which has both jump hour and a novel adjustment mechanism where the main hour hand is jumped forward and back, including date adjustment in both directions, by rotating the bezel.

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