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·I love the watch and as well as the bracelets fits and looks together, just for having an idea, the full set how much could cost? Thanks in advance for the reply.
Railmaster Trilogy and 321 Bracelet
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There you go! Very happy with the result.
Yes - had to use slim spring bars, not the ones that come with the bracelet. I did it myself because the technician wasn't in at the OB until tomorrow and I couldn't wait. I just used random 19mm spring bars I had at home. In my experience, most non-Omega 19mm spring bars are thinner than the Omega RM ones.
Looks fabulous!
Can I get a few more photos... the clasp: outside, inside as well as side of it?
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CliffBooth
·Looks fabulous!
Can I get a few more photos... the clasp: outside, inside as well as side of it?
There you go! it has two positions only to microadjust (manually, with a pin, not the quick microadjust that's in the RM bracelet)
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·There you go! it has two positions only to microadjust (manually, with a pin, not the quick microadjust that's in the RM bracelet)
Fantastic, thank you!
How do you like the size of the clasp in comparison to the RM LE original?
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CliffBooth
·Fantastic, thank you!
How do you like the size of the clasp in comparison to the RM LE original?
I find it comfortable. I like that the clasp is smaller and thinner. The quick microadjustment mechanism on the other one was cool but I'm ok with the change so far. Hoping that I don't need to buy any more straps or bracelets for the RM!
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DIV
·GREAT THREAD!!!!
I too love the watch, but find some issues with the original bracelet (the "modern" link widths, the non-taper, the clasp etc.. I've tried BOTH Fostners (original and contemporary), as well as the Uncle Seiko 1035 and Soyuz. None of them have a perfect fit between the case and end link (specifically as far as the profile of the lugs) and I now definitely want to get a 321.
The other issue I have with original bracelet is the fact that the micro adjustment is 3.5mm, but each link is about 4mm, so there is no overlap and I can never get a perfect fit to my wrist circumference.
I too love the watch, but find some issues with the original bracelet (the "modern" link widths, the non-taper, the clasp etc.. I've tried BOTH Fostners (original and contemporary), as well as the Uncle Seiko 1035 and Soyuz. None of them have a perfect fit between the case and end link (specifically as far as the profile of the lugs) and I now definitely want to get a 321.
The other issue I have with original bracelet is the fact that the micro adjustment is 3.5mm, but each link is about 4mm, so there is no overlap and I can never get a perfect fit to my wrist circumference.
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DIV
·Well, I took the plunge and now I'm in the club. So glad I did!
First of all, I ordered not from my local AD, but my independent Omega-authorized watchmaker and the bracelet arrived in 1 week...wow!
It went on with no need for modification, except for having to use 1.5mm spring bars like everyone else discovered, instead of the 1.8's that were included with the bracelet.
The profile of the female end links are a little different and yes that little tab is missing from the back,
but even with the thinner spring bars, the endlinks hug the case nicely and there's no noticeable play.
I'm so happy for the return to the classic 1035 flat link proportions. The corners of the links are nicely rounded, unlike all of the aftermarket options I've tried.
Here it is next to an original 1970's era 1035 on my Ranchero:
And the clasp is a not only akin to the original design with the side trim, but also a more reasonable size.. Instead of the tapering from 19 to just 18.1mm with a massive 21mm clasp, the Ed White bracelet tapers down to 16mm with a clasp that is 17.5mm wide.:
The weight savings is also a big plus for me as I shaved off 26g which makes the wrist feel better for me.
I softened the high shine a little with my Bergeon brush and I have a feeling it will get further softened by the increased amount of wrist time I will be giving my Railmaster with this major update.
OK, what are the cons?
Well, there aren't many:
1) The price of the bracelet, but nothing news worthy there, I knew that going in thanks to the previous posters here.
2) As mentioned before, the fit is excellent, but not as perfect as the original (not due to the shape, but due to the location of the lug holes) and yes, the use of thinner spring bars are needed.
3) With only 2 clasp adjustment holes, there still is no overlap in sizing when you remove or add one link as the length of each link is about 1mm longer that the span of the 2 adjustment holes. (I'm fighting the temptation to drill a third hole).
4) At least on my example, the double push-button deployant mechanism seemed a bit stiff at first, but I added a drop of Militec lubricant, and I probably didn't even need to as it's starting to break in and loosen on it's own.
5) This is a minor one, but for those who prefer a higher brushed to polished surface ratio like myself, the wider side links of the bracelet take up more polished real estate, so more bling potential, but like I said, I lightly brushed the surface and that's easy to do.
I'm so thankful for seeing this post a few weeks ago!
First of all, I ordered not from my local AD, but my independent Omega-authorized watchmaker and the bracelet arrived in 1 week...wow!
It went on with no need for modification, except for having to use 1.5mm spring bars like everyone else discovered, instead of the 1.8's that were included with the bracelet.
The profile of the female end links are a little different and yes that little tab is missing from the back,
but even with the thinner spring bars, the endlinks hug the case nicely and there's no noticeable play.
I'm so happy for the return to the classic 1035 flat link proportions. The corners of the links are nicely rounded, unlike all of the aftermarket options I've tried.
Here it is next to an original 1970's era 1035 on my Ranchero:
And the clasp is a not only akin to the original design with the side trim, but also a more reasonable size.. Instead of the tapering from 19 to just 18.1mm with a massive 21mm clasp, the Ed White bracelet tapers down to 16mm with a clasp that is 17.5mm wide.:
The weight savings is also a big plus for me as I shaved off 26g which makes the wrist feel better for me.
I softened the high shine a little with my Bergeon brush and I have a feeling it will get further softened by the increased amount of wrist time I will be giving my Railmaster with this major update.
OK, what are the cons?
Well, there aren't many:
1) The price of the bracelet, but nothing news worthy there, I knew that going in thanks to the previous posters here.
2) As mentioned before, the fit is excellent, but not as perfect as the original (not due to the shape, but due to the location of the lug holes) and yes, the use of thinner spring bars are needed.
3) With only 2 clasp adjustment holes, there still is no overlap in sizing when you remove or add one link as the length of each link is about 1mm longer that the span of the 2 adjustment holes. (I'm fighting the temptation to drill a third hole).
4) At least on my example, the double push-button deployant mechanism seemed a bit stiff at first, but I added a drop of Militec lubricant, and I probably didn't even need to as it's starting to break in and loosen on it's own.
5) This is a minor one, but for those who prefer a higher brushed to polished surface ratio like myself, the wider side links of the bracelet take up more polished real estate, so more bling potential, but like I said, I lightly brushed the surface and that's easy to do.
I'm so thankful for seeing this post a few weeks ago!
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M'Bob
·Well, I took the plunge and now I'm in the club. So glad I did!
First of all, I ordered not from my local AD, but my independent Omega-authorized watchmaker and the bracelet arrived in 1 week...wow!
It went on with no need for modification, except for having to use 1.5mm spring bars like everyone else discovered, instead of the 1.8's that were included with the bracelet.
The profile of the female end links are a little different and yes that little tab is missing from the back,
but even with the thinner spring bars, the endlinks hug the case nicely and there's no noticeable play.
I'm so happy for the return to the classic 1035 flat link proportions. The corners of the links are nicely rounded, unlike all of the aftermarket options I've tried.
Here it is next to an original 1970's era 1035 on my Ranchero:
And the clasp is a not only akin to the original design with the side trim, but also a more reasonable size.. Instead of the tapering from 19 to just 18.1mm with a massive 21mm clasp, the Ed White bracelet tapers down to 16mm with a clasp that is 17.5mm wide.:
The weight savings is also a big plus for me as I shaved off 26g which makes the wrist feel better for me.
I softened the high shine a little with my Bergeon brush and I have a feeling it will get further softened by the increased amount of wrist time I will be giving my Railmaster with this major update.
OK, what are the cons?
Well, there aren't many:
1) The price of the bracelet, but nothing news worthy there, I knew that going in thanks to the previous posters here.
2) As mentioned before, the fit is excellent, but not as perfect as the original (not due to the shape, but due to the location of the lug holes) and yes, the use of thinner spring bars are needed.
3) With only 2 clasp adjustment holes, there still is no overlap in sizing when you remove or add one link as the length of each link is about 1mm longer that the span of the 2 adjustment holes. (I'm fighting the temptation to drill a third hole).
4) At least on my example, the double push-button deployant mechanism seemed a bit stiff at first, but I added a drop of Militec lubricant, and I probably didn't even need to as it's starting to break in and loosen on it's own.
5) This is a minor one, but for those who prefer a higher brushed to polished surface ratio like myself, the wider side links of the bracelet take up more polished real estate, so more bling potential, but like I said, I lightly brushed the surface and that's easy to do.
I'm so thankful for seeing this post a few weeks ago!
Great post and info, thanks for sharing.
Forgot to ask, since you posted that nice picture of the 1035 next to your new bracelet: any idea if that one fits on that new Railmaster without modifications? Thanks.
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DIV
·Great post and info, thanks for sharing.
Forgot to ask, since you posted that nice picture of the 1035 next to your new bracelet: any idea if that one fits on that new Railmaster without modifications? Thanks.
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A.Matter
·Reading through the thread I convinced myself to also purchase the 321 bracelet for my Railmaster and am really happy so far. The only thing I‘ve noticed is that the 1.5mm pins are a bit bent to make them fit. Does it caude any damages to the holes or any other part of the watch long term?
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Orion78
·Reading through the thread I convinced myself to also purchase the 321 bracelet for my Railmaster and am really happy so far. The only thing I‘ve noticed is that the 1.5mm pins are a bit bent to make them fit. Does it caude any damages to the holes or any other part of the watch long term?
I try to give my best in english...
The normal/ original pins to the bracelet are a little bit to fat, the minimal smaller 1, 5mm pins are fitting very good with no further modification , really easy. You can do it on your own, when you know how to use a screwdriver.
Regards, Falk
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·Hi Falk
Thanks very much. I managed to fit it with the 1.5mm pins. I realised that the pins in my bracelet
but also on the photos here were bent a bit to fit in the holes. I‘m wondering if the bended pins and the minimal play will somehow damage or „loosen“ the holes over a longer time.
Thanks very much. I managed to fit it with the 1.5mm pins. I realised that the pins in my bracelet
but also on the photos here were bent a bit to fit in the holes. I‘m wondering if the bended pins and the minimal play will somehow damage or „loosen“ the holes over a longer time.
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Orion78
·Hi, I can't say that, my pins aren't bent...
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Narilarilum
·I just saw that the end links on the new FOIS are different to the 321 end links. Has anyone tried to see if the end links fit the trilogy's pin-holes with 1.8mm pins?
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DIV
·Just FYI: If anyone is in the market, I have listed my Trilogy Railmaster complete with original and Ed White 321 bracelets.
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