Proof that the Speedmaster is superior to the Daytona

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The Speedmaster is entry level ok
Truth. An entry level watch like the Speedmaster cannot stand up to the haute horology Rolex is offering.
 
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Oh dear🙁
Did they fix it and make it all right?👎
Omega have excellent warranty service.
Yes they fixed them.
 
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I don't think that the current Daytona and current Speedmaster Pro are really comparable. They have very different "goals". The 3861 has obviously been updated with a coaxial escapement, but it is still a very traditionally constructed (some would say "outdated" maybe) manual movement, whereas the Rolex 4130/4131 has all the modern features one would expect from a high end automatic chronograph movement, like a vertical clutch and an incredibly intricate chrono wheel where each tooth consist of tiny dampening "springs" to eliminate any play.

Omega has made a point of keeping the Speedy Pro, including it's movement, very retro and true to the original, while the Daytona is constantly evolving.
 
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whereas the Rolex 4130/4131 has all the modern features one would expect from a high end automatic chronograph movement, like a vertical clutch and an incredibly intricate chrono wheel where each tooth consist of tiny dampening "springs" to eliminate any play.

Omega has made a point of keeping the Speedy Pro, including it's movement, very retro and true to the original, while the Daytona is constantly evolving.


 
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Please elaborate. I don't think even Omega would argue that the Speedy Pro is purposely kept very traditional, otherwise it would have some version of the 9900.
 
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Truth. An entry level watch like the Speedmaster cannot stand up to the haute horology Rolex is offering.

You forgot to use the sarcasm font...
 
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I don't think that the current Daytona and current Speedmaster Pro are really comparable. They have very different "goals". The 3861 has obviously been updated with a coaxial escapement, but it is still a very traditionally constructed (some would say "outdated" maybe) manual movement, whereas the Rolex 4130/4131 has all the modern features one would expect from a high end automatic chronograph movement, like a vertical clutch and an incredibly intricate chrono wheel where each tooth consist of tiny dampening "springs" to eliminate any play.

Omega has made a point of keeping the Speedy Pro, including it's movement, very retro and true to the original, while the Daytona is constantly evolving.
And yet NASA - an organization that is somewhat familiar with technology - continues to choose and fly with the “outdated” and “retro” Speedmaster instead of the “constantly evolving” Daytona. 🙄 Go figure …
 
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When this thread first hit, I didn’t think it would have any legs at all, especially after meme-dweller shot the OP down, telling him to stop the fanboy-ism. But, here we are on page 5 📖and the conversation, albeit somewhat meandering, is going strong!

I guess the fact that I am still reading this thread, and enjoying it, means I was initially wrong. That’s entertainment, as the old saying goes. 🍿
 
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No one here has mentioned the number 1 reason why a Speedmaster is better than a Daytona. You can actually buy one. Try going to a Rolex boutique and buying a watch, nevermind a Daytona. Can't be done.
 
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Please elaborate. I don't think even Omega would argue that the Speedy Pro is purposely kept very traditional, otherwise it would have some version of the 9900.

The writing of your post sounds like it’s straight out of the Rolex marketing manual ( or a Hodinkee article ) 😗
 
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The writing of your post sounds like it’s straight out of the Rolex marketing manual ( or a Hodinkee article ) 😗
Ah, I see. That wasn't my intention. English isn't my first language, and I guess my writing can sound overly pretentious sometimes.

My point is it's obviously in Omega's interest to keep the Speedy Pro model very close to it's original look and function since it's their most iconic product, and despite having been significantly updated, the 3861 is still a very old fashioned movement (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just different), so a more suitable comparison with the Daytona would be something that has a 9900-caliber, which is a similarly "high tech" movement with all the features that you associate with a recently developed chronograph.
 
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the 3861 is still a very old fashioned movement

Any mechanical watch uses an "old fashioned movement"...this technology was basically obsolete in the 70's.
 
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Ah, I see. That wasn't my intention. English isn't my first language, and I guess my writing can sound overly pretentious sometimes.

My point is it's obviously in Omega's interest to keep the Speedy Pro model very close to it's original look and function since it's their most iconic product, and despite having been significantly updated, the 3861 is still a very old fashioned movement (which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just different), so a more suitable comparison with the Daytona would be something that has a 9900-caliber, which is a similarly "high tech" movement with all the features that you associate with a recently developed chronograph.

Im a Aussie just busting your chops 😁
 
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And yet NASA - an organization that is somewhat familiar with technology - continues to choose and fly with the “outdated” and “retro” Speedmaster instead of the “constantly evolving” Daytona. 🙄 Go figure …
This is really off topic, but I am genuinely interested. Does NASA really still purchase Speedmaster Pro's for use in space? Whenever I see videos from ISS all you see is random digital watches or sometimes an X-33.
Any mechanical watch uses an "old fashioned movement"...this technology was basically obsolete in the 70's.
Of course, no one can argue against that.
 
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Any mechanical watch uses an "old fashioned movement"...this technology was basically obsolete in the 70's.

Funny a few mates on instagram are watch enthusiasts but more than happy with modern Quartz watches and remind me of above every time I mention mechanical.
Yes they have the stand out Seamaster mechanical or Tudor but most of their watches are “no mucking around Quartz” like the Seiko Prospex Speedtimer

They would be saying below is better than both debated here. And Solar at +-15s a month

 
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This is really off topic, but I am genuinely interested. Does NASA really still purchase Speedmaster Pro's for use in space? Whenever I see videos from ISS all you see is random digital watches or sometimes an X-33.

Of course, no one can argue against that.
I don’t know whether NASA still purchases Speedmasters for flight use, but the watch is still flight qualified whereas the Daytona, to my knowledge, is not.
 
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I don’t know whether NASA still purchases Speedmasters for flight use, but the watch is still flight qualified whereas the Daytona, to my knowledge, is not.
Yes, well... I doubt that NASA do tests for "flight qualified wristwatches" every year or so 😉 As far as I know the Speedy Pro retains it's flight qualification status simply because it still follows the same NASA specifications that were worked out in the 60's.

If NASA were to select a new watch today, my guess is it would end up being a F-91W or similar.