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janice&fred
·IMO sometimes it’s not enough... With all due respect, you just joined today, nobody cares about your opinion.
oh boy...
Private sales...member comments.
Locked
oh boy...
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ICONO
·IMO sometimes it’s not enough... With all due respect, you just joined today, nobody cares about your opinion.
To be fair…
Whilst the 200 post requirement deters the ‘drive by, hit and run’ Sellers…that one never hears from, again
Sheer volume of posts…is no guarantee of commitment, quality, or integrity
I can think of several, ( some EX now ), members with multiple thousands of posts, whose opinion or knowledge either carries little real weight…or who have, in the past…( carefully ) misdescribed a watch for sale…or have even, created ‘sock puppet’ accounts, to deceive potential Sellers
When one has been around, long enough…you know, who to buy from…and who to steer well clear of…
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JwRosenthal
·Hey. I’m not telling anyone to care about my opinion- I was simply sharing it because this is an open forum where people share their thoughts. It was also formatted as a question because I was uncertain if it was true. Thanks for your input.
Some of us had rough starts where we spoke before we listened or knew enough to be informed and got checked for it (hi- that’s me) but we all respect each other and it rarely gets to personal attacks.
Stick around and get involved in the conversation, you may make a few new friends.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Stick around and get involved in the conversation, you may make a few new friends.
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MPWATCH
·Don't comment unless you're going to offer. Ruining someone's sales post isn't going to help you get a better deal. Any potential buyer should do their own do diligence with the seller. It's the seller's responsibly to properly describe the item and answer any / all questions asked by the buyer.
I think chiming in is in bad taste
...in my personal opinion
I think chiming in is in bad taste
...in my personal opinion
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JwRosenthal
·Don't comment unless you're going to offer. Ruining someone's sales post isn't going to help you get a better deal. Any potential buyer should do their own do diligence with the seller. It's the seller's responsibly to properly describe the item and answer any / all questions asked by the buyer.
I think chiming in is in bad taste
...in my personal opinion
But making commentary or criticism to correct an error should done via PM to allow the seller the benefit to self correct.
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Dan S
·Here's a question. How does it happen that an old thread selling a watch has been deleted, and then the watch appears in a new sales listing by the same seller? And the old thread doesn't even appear in the seller's history. I would have doubted my memory about it, but I actually had a conversation by PM with another member about the watch at the time, so I have a link to the previous thread, which is now gone. If I noticed it once, maybe it's happening regularly.
If a watch is WITHDRAWN, do the mods eventually clean up the forum by deleting those posts? Or will they delete an old sales thread by request? My understanding was that sales threads were supposed to stay in place for archival reasons. And knowing how long a watch has been listed for sale is useful information for buyers.
Ok, now I'm seeing another example of this. My previous post was about a vintage Speedmaster, now there is a Doxa Sub. In both cases, the watch was listed a long time ago (many months, maybe almost a year), bumped many times, and didn't sell. Obviously the listings became stale. Now those original listings are gone, and brand new, but identical, listings are posted in their place. This seems a bit sneaky to me, and I'm not sure why it should be allowed. If someone puts too high a price on something and the listing doesn't sell, I think that information should be available for the members to see.
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Fabrice M
·Personally I don’t think anyone should comment on a for sale thread. It is up to the buyer to do their homework and ask question to either the seller or to other forum members. I think if the add is misleading it should be reported of course, but it should all remain in private, it can easily become a matter of opinions. For instance I don’t buy vintage watch that have been polished or that are not complete. Would it be fair for me to say something like: “watch is great, but way over priced for a polished example”, or “ at that price , it should have box and papers” etc... I see plenty of watches that are way over priced, especially in vintage watches and especially by Pro Dealers, but what I see as over priced may be a treasure to someone else, why spoil it?
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Faz
·Personally I don’t think anyone should comment on a for sale thread. It is up to the buyer to do their homework and ask question to either the seller or to other forum members. I think if the add is misleading it should be reported of course, but it should all remain in private, it can easily become a matter of opinions. For instance I don’t buy vintage watch that have been polished or that are not complete. Would it be fair for me to say something like: “watch is great, but way over priced for a polished example”, or “ at that price , it should have box and papers” etc... I see plenty of watches that are way over priced, especially in vintage watches and especially by Pro Dealers, but what I see as over priced may be a treasure to someone else, why spoil it?
Any misrepresentation or blatant omission should be called out, but negative opinions on condition or any kind of speculation on a watch that has been properly described should be done in private or off the sales board. That was what I was referring to.
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Faz
·And I don't see anything wrong with kudos for exceptional timepieces offered for sale..😉
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Dan S
·... Would it be fair for me to say something like: “watch is great, but way over priced for a polished example”, or “ at that price , it should have box and papers” etc... I see plenty of watches that are way over priced, especially in vintage watches and especially by Pro Dealers, but what I see as over priced may be a treasure to someone else, why spoil it?
I don't think I've ever seen comments such as you describe in private or for sale sections. There is some discussion on the forums themselves. Prices are very subjective. ...
@Faz is absolutely correct. And in fact the rules explicitly prohibit negative comments about pricing. That is not what is being discussed in this thread.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ple...s-rules-for-all-listings-inc-parts-wtb.54177/
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janice&fred
·I don’t buy vintage watch that have been polished or that are not complete.
gotta be never polished and complete with boxes and papers? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't buy very many vintage watches 😁
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time flies
·gotta be never polished and complete with boxes and papers? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't buy very many vintage watches 😁
gotta be never polished and complete with boxes and papers? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't buy very many vintage watches 😁
have fun
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ConElPueblo
·Ok, now I'm seeing another example of this. My previous post was about a vintage Speedmaster, now there is a Doxa Sub. In both cases, the watch was listed a long time ago (many months, maybe almost a year), bumped many times, and didn't sell. Obviously the listings became stale. Now those original listings are gone, and brand new, but identical, listings are posted in their place. This seems a bit sneaky to me, and I'm not sure why it should be allowed. If someone puts too high a price on something and the listing doesn't sell, I think that information should be available for the members to see.
The Doxa sub had been double-bumped numerous times and (most likely) deleted by the mods after a fair amount of reporting...
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Dan S
·The Doxa sub had been double-bumped numerous times and (most likely) deleted by the mods after a fair amount of reporting...
I see, that makes sense.
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Fabrice M
·gotta be never polished and complete with boxes and papers? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't buy very many vintage watches 😁
They are actually not that hard to find if you know where to look... cheers
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Dan S
·gotta be never polished and complete with boxes and papers? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you don't buy very many vintage watches 😁
They are actually not that hard to find if you know where to look... cheers
We would love to see some of yours. 👍 In the appropriate sub-forum of course.
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Faz
·My opinion, you can't say a watch was never polished unless you're the original owner or you can confirm with theoriginal owner. In the case of vintage, it's almost impossible to claim that. I can see a seller saying there's a likelyhood that a watch never seen a polishing wheel. At that point, the buyer can make his/her own assessment.
So with all due respect @Fabrice M , make sure you can back up your claims if one day you post a watch for sale.
So with all due respect @Fabrice M , make sure you can back up your claims if one day you post a watch for sale.
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