Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

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In regards to bracelet sizing, at least at the OB that I went to, they let me try both standard and short and I ended up with the short one to go with my Bond 60th and 18 cm wrist.

I did get to try on the titanium bracelet a few weeks after and found that standard on titanium mesh fit me ok as it seemed to be less stiff compared to the steel.
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It's probably just me but I really do not feel anything special with these 2 new seamasters? The black one is especially boring (not in a good way). It is also curious to see that there are not really real updates to the 300M models, power reserve, etc.
 
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It's probably just me but I really do not feel anything special with these 2 new seamasters? The black one is especially boring (not in a good way). It is also curious to see that there are not really real updates to the 300M models, power reserve, etc.
I dunno, I think we established a while ago in this thread that this wasn't going to be a new generation of Seamaster. They're just new colourways. So in that sense, I don't think there's anything to be upset about. If the next generation is as uninteresting, then I'll reach for my pitchfork.

I said it in my earlier comment but if you put aside the disappointment of it not being a new generation model, the black one is my favourite reference to date of the outgoing generation, other than the milanese. I wish the normal black ceramic model looked that understated.

I really hope the milanese bracelet trend dies out. I'm not saying I dislike the milanese, it's fine as an option, but these watches look so much better (IMO) on the traditional bracelet. Here's a very quick and simple Photoshop job for that. (No watermark or credit needed for something this basic. 😜)

 
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I dunno, I think we established a while ago in this thread that this wasn't going to be a new generation of Seamaster. They're just new colourways. So in that sense, I don't think there's anything to be upset about. If the next generation is as uninteresting, then I'll reach for my pitchfork.

I said it in my earlier comment but if you put aside the disappointment of it not being a new generation model, the black one is my favourite reference to date of the outgoing generation, other than the milanese. I wish the normal black ceramic model looked that understated.

I really hope the milanese bracelet trend dies out. I'm not saying I dislike the milanese, it's fine as an option, but these watches look so much better (IMO) on the traditional bracelet. Here's a very quick and simple Photoshop job for that. (No watermark or credit needed for something this basic. 😜)


Thanks for the comment Jakeys. Not upset at all - just to me personally it's boring which is definitely good because I don't have to think about it as a potential purchase down the line haha. I think compared to other modern plain black divers of similar range, it doesn't offer that much in the competition that's all. Again only my subjective opinion.

On the bracelet: I do enjoy it on my NTTD, but agree with you that they should either put it on the OG bracelet or a new bracelet (although as you rightly pointed out, any big changes such as an entirely new bracelet will probably be reserved for the next gen).
 
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Having owned an SM300 165.024, and lusted after a 2254.00 when they were new, I'll give the new 300M a 3.5/5

It looks solid, has a clean coherent design language with plenty of historical callbacks, the domed crystal is awesome, has a decent movement, they avoided tastelessly blinging it up etc.

I have to mark it down for: it's too big (40mm would be more wearable); the HE valve looks too chonky (conical just doesnt visually balance with the crown); the sapphire caseback (tool watches have closed steel casebacks, period); the mesh bracelet is a bit too fashionable (it'll soon look very dated, and a proper bracelet would be better); and finally that price... 6.5k USD pretax is what - double the price of a Black Bay 58? Then again, its still only 2/3rds the price of a no-date Sub, so maybe that's where they're positioning it.

I do agree. HEV could be shorter and straight sided which would look better, in my opinion. A nice solid case back is very desirable.
 
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Its too bad about the mesh bracelets being so ill-fitting. There'd some idea that Staib manufactures them and they offer many sizing options. They all start on a specific length that you initially choose, but most have extension links to dial it in and some styles have micro-adjust holes in the clasp. It might not be as elegant as a one size fits all, take it or leave it bracelet, but come on Omega. My plan is too get a copy of the Staib 22mm Milanese I already have but in 20mm to wear on my green Seamaster.
 
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On the bracelet: I do enjoy it on my NTTD, but agree with you that they should either put it on the OG bracelet or a new bracelet (although as you rightly pointed out, any big changes such as an entirely new bracelet will probably be reserved for the next gen).
I think a complete bracelet change would be a monumental, Earth altering change. The Bond bracelet, for better or for worse, has been around for decades. That night be a reason to change it, but Omega has shown zero desire to alter it significantly. I don't expect a new SMP generation to get a new bracelet. Who knows?
 
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I think a complete bracelet change would be a monumental, Earth altering change. The Bond bracelet, for better or for worse, has been around for decades. That night be a reason to change it, but Omega has shown zero desire to alter it significantly. I don't expect a new SMP generation to get a new bracelet. Who knows?
They did though, hence why we got the Milanese bracelet.

As much as ya’ll don’t like it, two out three recent “bond” watches were sold with the Milanese bracelet versus the regular clasped one.

Now that we got a regular watch it truly feels like a new generational watch since it was based on feedback of other consumers who disliked the date, bracelet, etc.

With that said though, the recent Apple Watch Ultra 2 updated their v1 Milanese band to with a “Swiss” brand Milanese bracelet suspiciously similar to the bond one.

Who knows at this rate, but I’m wondering how they go for the refresh from here
 
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They did though, hence why we got the Milanese bracelet.

As much as ya’ll don’t like it, two out three recent “bond” watches were sold with the Milanese bracelet versus the regular clasped one.

Now that we got a regular watch it truly feels like a new generational watch since it was based on feedback of other consumers who disliked the date, bracelet, etc.

Who knows at this rate, but I’m wondering how they go for the refresh from here

Mmm, would have to disagree. This is no more a new generational watch than something like the NTTD or the 60th. It's the same watch with a different style to the same bezel, really only the dial is fundamentally different from the normal lineup - yet the same as the 60th.

Also, putting aside my personal feeling about the Milanese, it just isn't the same as a real bracelet, functionally or aesthetically. It's much more akin to a metal mesh strap.

IMO a real new gen SMP would be launched with revised movement (Maybe even Spirate?) and case, a micro adjustable revised SMP bracelet (Probably not tapered sadly), and redesigned aesthetics overall. Also would be more conservative, no domed crystal and date for sure.
 
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I own the stainless Omega mesh that I wear on my various 41mm SMP's. I think there is a wrist size sweet spot of comfort with that bracelet that happily I fall into. I have a 6.9 inch(ish) wrist and wear it with the standard length mesh on the 4th hole (closest to the case). And I'm close to using the 3rd hole. That gives me a good bit of strap that wraps around on the underside and provides a comfortable fit. My only complaint is that I wish the holes were closer together so you could get a more precise fit.

I do realize it's a polarizing bracelet and should be tried in person before purchasing. As far as the looks--I like it a lot. I do not think it looks "aftermarket" because it's not fitted to the case. Due to the SMP's relatively short lugs and lug hole placement, the combination looks very natural. Unlike my Black Bay 58 which puts the strap edge too far away from the case and too low down on the lugs to have a natural look.
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I completely dig the silver dial. And like a couple of other folks above...I really wish milanese was an option i could decline over the regular bracelet, not the standard.
 
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They did though, hence why we got the Milanese bracelet.

As much as ya’ll don’t like it, two out three recent “bond” watches were sold with the Milanese bracelet versus the regular clasped one.

Now that we got a regular watch it truly feels like a new generational watch since it was based on feedback of other consumers who disliked the date, bracelet, etc.

With that said though, the recent Apple Watch Ultra 2 updated their v1 Milanese band to with a “Swiss” brand Milanese bracelet suspiciously similar to the bond one.

Who knows at this rate, but I’m wondering how they go for the refresh from here
The Milanese isn't a "new" bracelet any more than those special edition Seamaster are "new" watches. They're variants of the same watch that comes with the Bond bracelet as have decades of SMPs. The next generation SMP will have a Bond bracelet, it may be slightly revised, as the newest one is, but it will be the same.

I cannot imagine what a truly new bracelet for the SMP would even look like, so engrained is the Bond bracelet. I think it matches the aesthetic well.
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I completely dig the silver dial. And like a couple of other folks above...I really wish milanese was an option i could decline over the regular bracelet, not the standard.
If you go to an OB and tell them you really like the watch but would prefer the standard over Milanese, they might throw it in for free to get you to buy. Not like watches are selling like crazy right now and they could be desperate.
 
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The Milanese isn't a "new" bracelet any more than those special edition Seamaster are "new" watches. They're variants of the same watch that comes with the Bond bracelet as have decades of SMPs. The next generation SMP will have a Bond bracelet, it may be slightly revised, as the newest one is, but it will be the same.

I cannot imagine what a truly new bracelet for the SMP would even look like, so engrained is the Bond bracelet. I think it matches the aesthetic well.
No, I get what you are saying, the bracelets are for sure not new, but even then I’m getting mixed vibes from Omega.
For those who get the newsletter on email, their wording threw me off because they went for “The “New” Diver 300M is here.”

With the variants in black and silver, wasn’t that how the last gen of seamasters was released anyways?

I’m taking it as a sign that “these” are the new redesigns. The NTTD and Bond 60th were the first variants.

I also collect other dumb stuff like action figures and it’s the same concept, renowned model car makers have gone from
Using die cast metal to “composite” or plastic, in other words omega went from ceramic back to “aluminum”

Everything that I bought now feels like a downgrade of the same stuff I’ve bought in the past for less.

Anyways going back to the omega email, their selling point is heavily focused on that “vintage” look.

Are you for sure they’ll bring back the bracelet though?
 
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No, I get what you are saying, the bracelets are for sure not new, but even then I’m getting mixed vibes from Omega.
For those who get the newsletter on email, their wording threw me off because they went for “The “New” Diver 300M is here.”

With the variants in black and silver, wasn’t that how the last gen of seamasters was released anyways?

I’m taking it as a sign that “these” are the new redesigns. The NTTD and Bond 60th were the first variants.

I also collect other dumb stuff like action figures and it’s the same concept, renowned model car makers have gone from
Using die cast metal to “composite” or plastic, in other words omega went from ceramic back to “aluminum”

Everything that I bought now feels like a downgrade of the same stuff I’ve bought in the past for less.

Anyways going back to the omega email, their selling point is heavily focused on that “vintage” look.

Are you for sure they’ll bring back the bracelet though?
These "new" watches aren't actually new. Same with the 60th and NTTD. They're just variations assembled to cash in on a romantic link to a popular franchise or harken back to the "the old days." The watches starred in the movies. Similarly, the Replica Broad Arrow from the late 90s was a variation on the bog standard Speedmaster of that era. The standard blue, black, green, silver, and white SMPs are still being made, still available, still sold. Yes, the Bond bracelet is still available and will still be offered with the next generation SMP. Will the next one have an aluminum insert and a standard dial?. Maybe. It'll still be a SMP and it will come on a Bond bracelet.
 
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Got to see the watches IRL today. Here are some comparison pics. Bottom line - I'm hard passing on both. Not enough distinction with the black vs. 60th and the grey is too monochromatic (and quite shiny!) I think I'll pony up some extra coin and get the bronze gold in 2025.

 
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I completely dig the silver dial. And like a couple of other folks above...I really wish milanese was an option i could decline over the regular bracelet, not the standard.
Silver/grey is cool and has presence but I'm waiting it out for the bronze gold SMP next year. I just posted a few pics.
 
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Got to see the watches IRL today. Here are some comparison pics. Bottom line - I'm hard passing on both. Not enough distinction with the black vs. 60th and the grey is too monochromatic (and quite shiny!) I think I'll pony up some extra coin and get the bronze gold in 2025.

I’ve heard rumours a green due next month and either a white or blue next Jan before the bronze/ burgundy
 
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I’ve heard rumours a green due next month and either a white or blue next Jan before the bronze/ burgundy
I'm waiting for all these reasons + next year will be a doozy with a Snoopy coming in October.