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··The Architect
I like these dials, but really not sure about the bezel. 🤔
Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig
I like these dials, but really not sure about the bezel. 🤔
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ErichPryde
·These "new" watches aren't actually new. Same with the 60th and NTTD. They're just variations assembled to cash in on a romantic link to a popular franchise or harken back to the "the old days." The watches starred in the movies. Similarly, the Replica Broad Arrow from the late 90s was a variation on the bog standard Speedmaster of that era. The standard blue, black, green, silver, and white SMPs are still being made, still available, still sold. Yes, the Bond bracelet is still available and will still be offered with the next generation SMP. Will the next one have an aluminum insert and a standard dial?. Maybe. It'll still be a SMP and it will come on a Bond bracelet.
I think we need some specific definitions. New should not be synonomous with "next generation..." and it seems to be.
It's definitely cool in practice, not sure what I think of it either. Is there a Yacht-Master that is similar to this or is that my imagination?
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YY77
·Is there a Yacht-Master that is similar to this or is that my imagination?
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rebar
·After noodling for a bit, it's a decent release. I like the look of it quite a bit (it might just be the most attractive current SMP300 IMO) , but I understand the disappointment. I said earlier that Omega's hype strategy with this piece with another soft debut through Craig would lead to disappointment if it was just a black version of the Bond 60th. Too much time for folks to speculate and imagine, just to get more of the same.
And then of course it being priced above the standards SMP300s. However, another way to look at that is that it is priced below the Bond 60th Anniversary while being a regular piece. If you think of this as an alternative to that, then it becomes more compelling. And compared to other no date divers, like the no-date Sub, it's compelling there as well. I think it'll be successful and views will soften. Hopefully Omega learns from this experience and is more careful in the future when hyping up a piece. If this release had a surprise announcement on a random Thursday, I'm sure the reactions would be more positive.
And then of course it being priced above the standards SMP300s. However, another way to look at that is that it is priced below the Bond 60th Anniversary while being a regular piece. If you think of this as an alternative to that, then it becomes more compelling. And compared to other no date divers, like the no-date Sub, it's compelling there as well. I think it'll be successful and views will soften. Hopefully Omega learns from this experience and is more careful in the future when hyping up a piece. If this release had a surprise announcement on a random Thursday, I'm sure the reactions would be more positive.
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Jakeys
·After noodling for a bit, it's a decent release. I like the look of it quite a bit (it might just be the most attractive current SMP300 IMO) , but I understand the disappointment. I said earlier that Omega's hype strategy with this piece with another soft debut through Craig would lead to disappointment if it was just a black version of the Bond 60th. Too much time for folks to speculate and imagine, just to get more of the same.
Looking at the on wrist pics in this thread, I like the silver one less than in the renders. Definitely not for me. The black is the standout, but it isn't anything groundbreaking. I just think it's the best current gen SMP variant, and the one I would buy if I was replacing my older reference.
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andyberger87
·After noodling for a bit, it's a decent release. I like the look of it quite a bit (it might just be the most attractive current SMP300 IMO) , but I understand the disappointment. I said earlier that Omega's hype strategy with this piece with another soft debut through Craig would lead to disappointment if it was just a black version of the Bond 60th. Too much time for folks to speculate and imagine, just to get more of the same.
And then of course it being priced above the standards SMP300s. However, another way to look at that is that it is priced below the Bond 60th Anniversary while being a regular piece. If you think of this as an alternative to that, then it becomes more compelling. And compared to other no date divers, like the no-date Sub, it's compelling there as well. I think it'll be successful and views will soften. Hopefully Omega learns from this experience and is more careful in the future when hyping up a piece. If this release had a surprise announcement on a random Thursday, I'm sure the reactions would be more positive.
I was almost going to get an FOIS instead but I'm holding off for 2025 which should be a big year. The two I'm most interested in are the new Snoopy and Bronze Gold/Burgundy SMP300.
Also I heard the Speedmaster Flight would get a retail version next month....
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!The Nekton was the first edition for Omega using this bezel, but I think you're referring to the yachtmaster rhodium 40 that looks similar?
ps we’ve seen the brushed steel dial before too on a Railmaster. I can’t say I liked it there or here. Wow I’m on a downer with these it seems! If you watched the new Jaguar advert and thought ‘that’s for me’ then perhaps the silver dial is aimed at you.
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Vinz Clortho
·Personally it's a hard pass on both. The milanese bracelet doesn't fit my wrist and it's nothing groundbreaking with these. I like the vintage vibe and the aluminium/brushed bezels, but it seems they're charging more for less. As good as Omega has done with the Speedmaster line this year, seems they phoned it in with the Seamasters. They are somewhat uninspiring.
To each their own, but if I was looking for something like this, would buy a vintage 90s /early 00s one, get a service done by a local watchmaker, then buy a staib bracelet with better adjustment with a few thousand left over.
To each their own, but if I was looking for something like this, would buy a vintage 90s /early 00s one, get a service done by a local watchmaker, then buy a staib bracelet with better adjustment with a few thousand left over.
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twizit
·Exactly!
Looking at the on wrist pics in this thread, I like the silver one less than in the renders. Definitely not for me. The black is the standout, but it isn't anything groundbreaking. I just think it's the best current gen SMP variant, and the one I would buy if I was replacing my older reference.
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nlogax
·I take it back about the design team restraining themselves from blinging it up... It might be the lighting in the AD, but those cases (and the bracelets!) look particuarly shiny. Pretty far from a toolwatch
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe bezel as you say is reminiscent of that on the Yactmaster but Omega themselves have form for this design trope. The America’s Cup and more impressively non America’s cup Seamaster used a white gold bezel in this bas relief design. Rather more successfully to my thinking.
ps we’ve seen the brushed steel dial before too on a Railmaster. I can’t say I liked it there or here. Wow I’m on a downer with these it seems! If you watched the new Jaguar advert and thought ‘that’s for me’ then perhaps the silver dial is aimed at you.
That was before refinishing - this is after...
The finish on this new one looks quite rough so not sure how easily this would be refinished.
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RAZ
·I really like the silver one. Also, and I know I am in the minority, but I very much like the Milanese bracelet. I have the Bond 60th and I like the gap between it and the watch.
Question, what is the Snoopy next year that has been mentioned in this thread?
Question, what is the Snoopy next year that has been mentioned in this thread?
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RAZ
·So another Speedmaster? Not a 300.
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josiahg52
·I love the step away from fancy materials like ceramic. I don't look at it as step up, or luxury, or really befitting of a proper diver's watch. Ceramic is just a way to bilk more money out of the customer. It doesn't scratch is the marketing claim. The only bezels I ever even slightly marked were the ones I worked with and they still looked good. I don't work so aluminum is fine with me. We know the current SMP only masquerades as a real diver's watch, but perhaps if the next models keep the aluminum bezel and old wave dials, Omega can capture some of the rugged usefulness of the early 2000s Seamaster which was a decent balance of luxury and tool.
Something like the above seems closer than it did when I wrote it months ago. Like, when is the Peter Blake anniversary?
There will be new Seamasters and they'll come on a Bond bracelet, but I think we all would like another option other than the Milanese.
- solid case back
- aluminum insert
- non ceramic dial
- sword hands
- small waves
- date at 6
- keep the rest of the modern details
- add a nice bracelet like a 1610, 1450
Something like the above seems closer than it did when I wrote it months ago. Like, when is the Peter Blake anniversary?
There will be new Seamasters and they'll come on a Bond bracelet, but I think we all would like another option other than the Milanese.
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andyberger87
·R RAZSo another Speedmaster? Not a 300.
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andyberger87
·Yes, Snoopy is linked to Speedmaster only.
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