Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

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Having owned an SM300 165.024, and lusted after a 2254.00 when they were new, I'll give the new 300M a 3.5/5

It looks solid, has a clean coherent design language with plenty of historical callbacks, the domed crystal is awesome, has a decent movement, they avoided tastelessly blinging it up etc.

I have to mark it down for: it's too big (40mm would be more wearable); the HE valve looks too chonky (conical just doesnt visually balance with the crown); the sapphire caseback (tool watches have closed steel casebacks, period); the mesh bracelet is a bit too fashionable (it'll soon look very dated, and a proper bracelet would be better); and finally that price... 6.5k USD pretax is what - double the price of a Black Bay 58? Then again, its still only 2/3rds the price of a no-date Sub, so maybe that's where they're positioning it.
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The bracelet is perhaps the poorest aspect of these models. It is just not a very good design, over fat at the clasp and has fitment issues for a significant proportion of buyers leading to the band aid of offering 2 lengths. Persevering with it after the low volume Bond releases seems a backward step. Designing it well in the first place would have been a better idea.
 
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Please kill the domed sapphire on this modern watch. “STOP IT! you’re getting Bond wrong!”

For it to add .2mm of thickness, distort the gorgeous wave dial, and for the price to be 800$ more that the “state of the art in house ceramic” which was their upsell 6 years ago, is just pathetic. What a cash grab.

If these were meant to be tool watches, keep them titanium and make a titanium line. But this muddies the waters more on the seamaster line and provides no improvements while asking for more cash. 👎

Turning my summer blue heritage every which way and I really can't get any dial distortion at any angle at which I'm actually checking the time. If I hold the watch so that I'm looking at its side, sure- I can see where the crystal distorts the hands. but in the arc from about 15° to 165° ((or so)) it's completely legible.



Here's a REALLY crappy graphic made with paint to show what I mean:



Ain't nobody checking the time by looking at their lugs, and of all the complaints about current Omega that I could list, domed sapphire being bad is just.... no. The current domed sapphires are fantastic.
 
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The single dome on the ceramic is great, but the bubble effect on the new ones just isn’t it. To clarify. Leave that to the heritage models

It shouldn't be a heritage thing, though. I'd guess- strongly- that flat sapphire was a thing not because it was at all better in any way, but because it was a lot easier to cut. I'd also bet that the domed crystal is more resistant to chipping or cracking than either the flat or boxed sapphire crystals.
 
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Turning my summer blue heritage every which way and I really can't get any dial distortion at any angle at which I'm actually checking the time. If I hold the watch so that I'm looking at its side, sure- I can see where the crystal distorts the hands. but in the arc from about 15° to 165° ((or so)) it's completely legible.



Here's a REALLY crappy graphic made with paint to show what I mean:



Ain't nobody checking the time by looking at their lugs, and of all the complaints about current Omega that I could list, domed sapphire being bad is just.... no. The current domed sapphires are fantastic.
Way easier to take 2 pictures than describe & draw that.....

 
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Way easier to take 2 pictures than describe & draw that.....


I'm trying to channel a little bit of 2001, is it working?
 
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Way easier to take 2 pictures than describe & draw that.....

Nice, and just what I'm looking at right now, I have mine on today.
 
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The bracelet is perhaps the poorest aspect of these models. It is just not a very good design, over fat at the clasp and has fitment issues for a significant proportion of buyers leading to the band aid of offering 2 lengths. Persevering with it after the low volume Bond releases seems a backward step. Designing it well in the first place would have been a better idea.

I’m hoping the standard bracelet will fit!🤞 If it does, then the black dial will be joining my collection alongside its blue cousin:
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The bracelet is perhaps the poorest aspect of these models. It is just not a very good design, over fat at the clasp and has fitment issues for a significant proportion of buyers leading to the band aid of offering 2 lengths. Persevering with it after the low volume Bond releases seems a backward step. Designing it well in the first place would have been a better idea.
You are correct in this. My NTTD does not fit me well with either length bracelet, and I don't like straps. So I only wear it occasionally.
 
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The bracelet is perhaps the poorest aspect of these models. It is just not a very good design, over fat at the clasp and has fitment issues for a significant proportion of buyers leading to the band aid of offering 2 lengths. Persevering with it after the low volume Bond releases seems a backward step. Designing it well in the first place would have been a better idea.
Yep, the bracelet doesn’t fit me at all so I passed on a NTTD and a James Bond. Rules me out as I have never like rubber straps either.
 
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So glad to see other people struggle with the mesh bracelet. Omega does not recommend it for wrists smaller than 18cm on the product page. I remember reading something about them offering shorter bracelets but I'm not sure how true that is.

I'd imagine the standard SMP300 bracelet would fit.

Many of the rumors we heard from people with "sources" over the past few weeks turned out to be completely off base. Fun though.
 
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I didn’t mean to come across as rude, but I think I did. I do love your watch. And I like the overtly domed crystal, just not on the diver. But I do prefer the previous, flatter crystal. Here’s a comparison of almost zero distortion and clear legibility.


Admittedly there’s a light distortion in profile on the first photo, but I love how flush the light dome is to the bezel. It’s sharp and clean.
On the other angles, It keeps the triangular markers sharp to look at which I like. And easy to read (FOR ME.) I never liked the way the 60th anniversary distorts the dial and it’s the best dial they ever made 😔. It makes the watch look very bloated and fat , especially when it has the magnifying effect. That on an already bigger watch really makes it a missed mark for me.

But I’m happy that most of you love the design. I think I’ll buy a casino royale seamaster or a Brosnan and call it a day.
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I didn’t mean to come across as rude, but I think I did. I do love your watch. And I like the overtly domed crystal, just not on the diver. But I do prefer the previous, flatter crystal. Here’s a comparison of almost zero distortion and clear legibility.


Admittedly there’s a light distortion in profile on the first photo, but I love how flush the light dome is to the bezel. It’s sharp and clean.
On the other angles, It keeps the triangular markers sharp to look at which I like. And easy to read (FOR ME.) I love the ceramic SMP but I never liked the way the 60th anniversary distorts the dial. It makes the watch look very bloated and fat , especially when it has the magnifying effect. That on an already bigger watch really makes it a missed mark for me.

But I’m happy that most of you love the design. I think I’ll buy a casino royale seamaster or a Brosnan and call it a day.


I loved my gen 1 heritage and I'm glad you like yours.
 
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I’m hoping the standard bracelet will fit!🤞 If it does, then the black dial will be joining my collection alongside its blue cousin:
Yeah standard bracelet option would be mandatory for me as well. It should just be the exact same case, the extra thickness as someone else already mentioned is probably just the domed crystal. btw that pic of your blue is so dark, I thought for a second until I finished scrolling that you'd already bought the black one. 😜
 
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Yeah standard bracelet option would be mandatory for me as well. It should just be the exact same case, the extra thickness as someone else already mentioned is probably just the domed crystal. btw that pic of your blue is so dark, I thought for a second until I finished scrolling that you'd already bought the black one. 😜
Not yet!😆
 
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Apparently, Omega is having a price issue with the new Seamasters and they have been posted incorrectly on the Omega US site.
 
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Apparently, Omega is having a price issue with the new Seamasters and they have been posted incorrectly on the Omega US site.
Heard the same thing from my AD when trying to place order this afternoon. They haven’t received them in the flesh yet either. Curious to hear how much of an issue this is, maybe these are a click over 7k?
 
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Heard the same thing from my AD when trying to place order this afternoon. They haven’t received them in the flesh yet either. Curious to hear how much of an issue this is, maybe these are a click over 7k?
I was hearing 7100 on bracelet and 6700 on rubber before the launch today.
 
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So glad to see other people struggle with the mesh bracelet. Omega does not recommend it for wrists smaller than 18cm on the product page. I remember reading something about them offering shorter bracelets but I'm not sure how true that is.

I'd imagine the standard SMP300 bracelet would fit.

Many of the rumors we heard from people with "sources" over the past few weeks turned out to be completely off base. Fun though.
Omega has two sizes for the mesh bracelet, if one doesn't fit you correctly, you can ask them for a smaller or bigger replacement, mine fits perfectly and without issue.