Polarouter SAS price?

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And there is our lucky winner 😀
Congrats on the probably, if not, the best example of SAS Polarouter.

Cheers 👍
 
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So glad that it stayed within the forum. And congratulations of course. Great watch
 
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The Captain is 96 years old today and lives 10 min away from the auctionhouse.
If you have any information regarding (issued) watches please share it.
UG and SAS have no list of issued watches!
There is a lot of theories regarding them but nobody knows.
It was a simple watch bought by a company to mark a important occasion in their history.
The engraving is personal and i have a hard time to belive somebody would work the watch this way to make a bigger profit on this auctionhouse.
What i know is that some people tried to buy it directly from the auctionhouse since oktober last Year when it occured the first time.


I suppose you live in Sweden, as I do as well. Was googling for the name and found the facts you shared above. Never had a doubt that the watch is not his but it’s hard to connect the final strings.
Did you try to contact him? or maybe some of his family. It would be truly amazing to get the full story.
Well done!
 
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I suppose you live in Sweden, as I do as well. Was googling for the name and found the facts you shared above. Never had a doubt that the watch is not his but it’s hard to connect the final strings.
Did you try to contact him? or maybe some of his family. It would be truly amazing to get the full story.
Well done!

Yes im Swedish, im not shore what string you are trying to connect?
Are you looking for a watch that you can confirm vas one the first flight?
Im not feeling comfortable to contact a 96 Year old man whit a bad memory and health to ask about a watch wearing his name, i know he was contacted by some people befor the auction.
I altso know that this was not a dreamwatch for a pilot in the 50s,belive the flight was important for the pilot and the watch was only a company gift for the emploey.
 
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If we, for a moment, go back to the watch again I would love to get your opinion on a hammered price. In my eyes, it went for a quite “cheap”final bid, or did I miss something?

I agree, on the engraving issue and to me it doesn’t look professional at all. It was probably added somehow afterwards (guessing). Nevertheless, the rest looks pretty good to me based on the crapy pictures below.

I’m mean, we are talking about very rare piece and both Sothebys polarouter and another one sold at the small swedish auction house, ended much higher.

Like other forum members, I did quite a bit of research on this one and came to a dead end. I could not consolidate the inscription on the watch with any of the pilots in the first SAS flight. I have no idea why anyone would want to add a name and claim genuinity to an already unique watch. The discrepencies and uncertainty regarding its provonoence is the reason I did not jump in and bid.

I dont think it reached anywhere near the price i would have expected it to reach and have a few theories regarding its provenience but cannot really prove anyting as it is conjecture and suposition so I'll just step away and potter on ... 😀
 
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Yes im Swedish, im not shore what string you are trying to connect?
Are you looking for a watch that you can confirm vas one the first flight?
Im not feeling comfortable to contact a 96 Year old man whit a bad memory and health to ask about a watch wearing his name, i know he was contacted by some people befor the auction.
I altso know that this was not a dreamwatch for a pilot in the 50s,belive the flight was important for the pilot and the watch was only a company gift for the emploey.


I get your point. I ment that it would be awsome to know the story behind the watch. Sometimes these auction houses can be helpful. I bet it wasn’t the old man him self who contacted the auction house. Anyhow, enjoy it and one again, congrats on a great piece.
 
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Like other forum members, I did quite a bit of research on this one and came to a dead end. I could not consolidate the inscription on the watch with any of the pilots in the first SAS flight. I have no idea why anyone would want to add a name and claim genuinity to an already unique watch. The discrepencies and uncertainty regarding its provonoence is the reason I did not jump in and bid.

I dont think it reached anywhere near the price i would have expected it to reach and have a few theories regarding its provenience but cannot really prove anyting as it is conjecture and suposition so I'll just step away and potter on ... 😀
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Exactly whay I also did not bid.

If he was on first flight the engraving would have been a nice thing for provenance, now it will forever be the watch with a name engraved where provenance can not be proven, and in that case, I personally, even if the watch is nice and 100% original, rather would buy one with nothing engraved on it, then a name which can not be connected to the watch and the time they where given out
 
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I don't think it's much of a stretch to imagine Mr Soremo being gifted this by a colleague/friend who was on the flight. Maybe he dated someone who was on the flight and she/he gave it to him? The poor quality engraving and fact he wasn't the flight is an indication that this has not been done later to attempt to enhance the value. For me the connection to the company would be enough and if I was in the market for one would he happy to have this.
 
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Are there examples of authenticated engraved watches? How do they compare to this watch?
 
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Huge congrats for this beautiful watch! For me there only a very few more desireable watches out there than the Polarouter SAS!! Period.
I really feel a bit envious about the watch, so please DIBS on it if you ever think about selling the SAS in the next few years.

Funny to read about the concerns about the engraving on the case back. As written before the watch might have been a private present or later gift from company. I don´t think someone will add the name engraving to the watch to make a big story and than selling it at a small national auction house. The only comprehensibly reason not to bid on this watch is missing funds at the time🙁.

If you ever come to Berlin please let me know, I would love to see this one live!!

Best Georg


QUOTE="Skrotis, post: 1151152, member: 13753"]Yes im Swedish, im not shore what string you are trying to connect?
Are you looking for a watch that you can confirm vas one the first flight?
Im not feeling comfortable to contact a 96 Year old man whit a bad memory and health to ask about a watch wearing his name, i know he was contacted by some people befor the auction.
I altso know that this was not a dreamwatch for a pilot in the 50s,belive the flight was important for the pilot and the watch was only a company gift for the emploey.[/QUOTE]
 
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Uno was on the first flight, he's pictured on the far left at LAX recieving and admiring it. Uno has since passed away.
Universal-polerouter-SAS-Piloter.jpg
 
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I own his Seamaster Jumbo that he had previously to getting the Polarouter.
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Uno was on the first flight, he's pictured on the far left at LAX recieving and admiring it.

Incredible! How did you come to know this information?


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I altso know that this was not a dreamwatch for a pilot

...Since - unbelievably - no one has publicly called it yet in this thread, please allow me to be so presumptuous: dibs! (?!). 😉
 
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Incredible! How did you come to know this information?
Some not too advance research, Mr. Söremo passed away at 97 earlier this year.



...Since - unbelievably - no one has publicly called it yet in this thread, please allow me to be so presumptuous: dibs! (?!). 😉
 
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...p.s. I never cease to be amazed by the resourcefulness and tenacity of the members of this sub forum. Fantastic work, folks!
 
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The news paper article posted in this thread says that Mr. Söremo was the co-pilot.
He took good care of his watches, the Omega was not over serviced and probably never polished.
 
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Very interesting to note the unsigned crown. I have seen that particular crown appear on several Polarouters, and I am convinced that some of them originally came that way, even though none of the Polarouter advertisements that have surfaced thus far show this crown. Others disagree and think that anyone who thinks the unsigned crown is original must be dishonest people trying to enhance the value of their own Polarouters, and yet that unsigned crown keeps turning up.
 
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Others disagree and think that anyone who thinks the unsigned crown is original must be dishonest people trying to enhance the value of their own Polarouters, and yet that unsigned crown keeps turning up.

Steady on! 😀

I always try to avoid speaking in absolutes because very often there remains an element of uncertainty about these things and it's that uncertainty that many of us enjoy.

Whilst my own view is that Polarouters, SAS or otherwise, started life with signed crowns, I would never suggest that anyone who supports an alternative theory is doing so dishonestly.