Polarouter at Matthew Bain

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Ulackfocus I stated "hurt" his portfolio for retirement ? You don't understand what that means ? LOL

Okay, you caught me skim reading - I glossed right over the "hurt" part. What's the most embarrassing is I'm the one who chastises others for poor reading comprehension. I'll report to the principal's office for discipline.
 
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I'll report to the principal's office for discipline.

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You bet you will!
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Oooooo yeah. ::psy::
Oh yea .. send her up to my hotel room immediately. I've been a bad boy.
 
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The watch has turned up on Instagram @atc6263
 
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Just went through the pics. I still can hardly belive that the dial aged to this brown caramel tone over the years.
Dial looks so even in color & without any imperfection. But who knows, maybe it aged in a drawer for many years...
 
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Just went through the pics. I still can hardly belive that the dial aged to this brown caramel tone over the years.
Dial looks so even in color & without any imperfection. But who knows, maybe it aged in a drawer for many years...

Wouldn’t humidity and sun damage do this as opposed to lack of UV exposure?
 
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Wouldn’t humidity and sun damage do this as opposed to lack of UV exposure?

No. It would never produce such a smooth and even tone.

I am very skeptical of the originality of the dial. At best I would say that it is a service replacement, but that would bring the "a" into question as well.
 
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No. It would never produce such a smooth and even tone.

I am very skeptical of the originality of the dial. At best I would say that it is a service replacement, but that would bring the "a" into question as well.

It would be interesting to see the dial surface up close to see whether it really is as smooth and even as it looks in the low-res photos we've seen.

How the dial has aged (or been aged) is one question but I personally have little doubt that it is a genuine original Polarouter dial. I think my initial concern regarding the chapter ring was also unfounded as there are other examples of 20217-1 Polarouters with chapter rings with wide hour markers. The only thing that is not original in my opinion is the crown.

I don't understand the service replacement theory at all. How would that explain anything?
 
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It would be interesting to see the dial surface up close to see whether it really is as smooth and even as it looks in the low-res photos we've seen.

How the dial has aged (or been aged) is one question but I personally have little doubt that it is a genuine original Polarouter dial. I think my initial concern regarding the chapter ring was also unfounded as there are other examples of 20217-1 Polarouters with chapter rings with wide hour markers. The only thing that is not original in my opinion is the crown.

I don't understand the service replacement theory at all. How would that explain anything?

It would be easier to understand a service replacement dial being so (apparently) clean, and such an unusual color. For a dial to change into that color through time, and exposure to the elements, yet remain so smooth and consistent, seems unlikely. Are there other examples of dials of this color?
 
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Nothing exactly the same but there are plenty of tropical/chocolate Polerouters which indicate to me that this colouration is perfectly possible.


Images borrowed from the internet. The watches are not mine and I take no credit for the photos.
 
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Yes, and every one of those shows normal (expected) patina. Why does the subject watch appear to show none?
 
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Yes, and every one of those shows normal (expected) patina. Why does the subject watch appear to show none?

For me, there's enough evidence to believe that the dial colouration is possible. The first example above, in particular, is very similar although I agree that the patina is not entirely even.

If dials like this were common then we wouldn't be discussing it and the dealer would not have been able to ask for so much.

It's unique. That doesn't mean that it's not genuine.
 
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It's unique. That doesn't mean that it's not genuine.

That may be true, but I think such pristine dials that have aged this "perfectly" should definitely be examined a bit closer. The type of margins dealers/collectors could make on it having a "chocolate" dial are large enough to pay for artificial aging experiments.
 
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I’m also inclined to believe that the color on tropical dials should always appear uneven. Here’s another tropical dial variation that I’ve just received

Another chocolate dial