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photos of 1958 seamaster
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bgrisso
·given that it was your dads watch, and the sentimental value, if it were me I would start looking for an original dial, and correct subdial hands. Even if it's expensive, to get it back to original hands and dial would give you the best of both worlds, sentimentality and authenticity. You would be underwater on cost vs value, but you've already spent a bit getting it serviced, so to me, it would be worth it go all in.
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TechFounder
·Did he use Omega's restoration service which starts at $1,500? But they would have done a much better job than what the OP posted.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/customer-service/interventions-and-prices/restoration
Also, he could have just asked Omega if the dial is original.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/customer-service/interventions-and-prices/restoration
Also, he could have just asked Omega if the dial is original.
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malilis
·Well got my !958 seamaster back did not know how the watch worked, lol as i had never worn it before was my dads, thought it was date month , nice people on the thread told me no its min and hours, had to drive 60 miles back to watch master to pick up, it works great now, looks very clean especially the dial ( original) they replaced the main spring, the crown, both stop watch buttons and a proper omega crystal and new water proof o rings . cost 1700 for repair. let me know what you Think. shone uv and only hands light up and stay light for a while, does not have dots on end of hour pointers, has the Canadian made stretchy flexoflex band it came with , and a newer omega box not original
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mrbob
·How can someone have photos of something that does not exist? 😁
English does not read right to left. It says BASE 1 MILE. Common on some chronos back in the day. Never on Omega.
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mrbob
·Did he use Omega's restoration service which starts at $1,500? But they would have done a much better job than what the OP posted.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/customer-service/interventions-and-prices/restoration
Also, he could have just asked Omega if it dial is original.
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mrbob
·given that it was your dads watch, and the sentimental value, if it were me I would start looking for an original dial, and correct subdial hands. Even if it's expensive, to get it back to original hands and dial would give you the best of both worlds, sentimentality and authenticity. You would be underwater on cost vs value, but you've already spent a bit getting it serviced, so to me, it would be worth it go all in.
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mrbob
·Did he use Omega's restoration service which starts at $1,500? But they would have done a much better job than what the OP posted.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/customer-service/interventions-and-prices/restoration
Also, he could have just asked Omega if it dial is original.
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mrbob
·Hope you are satisfied indeed ... very costly service .. !!
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Radiozoop
·true but was isolated by jewler they will not revel who it was sent to other then it was a omega watch maker, will meet with owner of jewler tuesday with better questions, I liked the dial asked them not to touch it, my have been my mistake but at that time had zero knowlage of Omega's .
Look, I’m going to tell you like it is, especially because I have a very similar (but even older) 2451-7. I’m glad you’re a bit more agreeable now, but you shouldn’t come on here telling people they don’t know what they are talking about. Some of the people you said that to are watchmakers. The others are Omega fanatics that spend hours, upon hours, reeling over the details of these vintage watches. Then there are people like me who are Omega fanatics, but still learning the details with their vintage watches. I still consider myself an apprentice and I’ve been collecting vintage O’s for 5 years now.
Here’s the truth other people may be putting into nice words that you aren’t understanding:
-The dial is refinished. I don’t care if it was in a drawer for 50 years. That doesn’t change the fact, that dial IS not Omega’s work. We are talking about a luxury good here, and they don’t send out shoddy stuff.
-You definitely overpaid to get it serviced. I was quoted $1250 for a service on my 321 by Omega (this was a full service and partial resto). My personal, AWCI watchmaker quoted me $800 simply because I needed a few new parts.
None of us have any problem with helping someone new out. But don’t come to the forum trying to convince us we are wrong and you are right. There is a whole lot of experience here which you may not understand. I’m not going to sit here and degrade you but I thought someone needed to be upfront with you.
Most importantly, it’s your f****** watch, so it doesn’t matter what we think. If THAT particular watch is sentimental in THAT form, don’t be offended by us telling you the dial is wrong. Just go out and enjoy it. That’s the most important thing you can do.
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mrbob
·Look, I’m going to tell you like it is, especially because I have a very similar (but even older) 2451-7. I’m glad you’re a bit more agreeable now, but you shouldn’t come on here telling people they don’t know what they are talking about. Some of the people you said that to are watchmakers. The others are Omega fanatics that spend hours, upon hours, reeling over the details of these vintage watches. Then there are people like me who are Omega fanatics, but still learning the details with their vintage watches. I still consider myself an apprentice and I’ve been collecting vintage O’s for 5 years now.
Here’s the truth other people may be putting into nice words that you aren’t understanding:
-The dial is refinished. I don’t care if it was in a drawer for 50 years. That doesn’t change the fact, that dial IS not Omega’s work. We are talking about a luxury good here, and they don’t send out shoddy stuff.
-You definitely overpaid to get it serviced. I was quoted $1250 for a service on my 321 by Omega (this was a full service and partial resto). My personal, AWCI watchmaker quoted me $800 simply because I needed a few new parts.
None of us have any problem with helping someone new out. But don’t come to the forum trying to convince us we are wrong and you are right. There is a whole lot of experience here which you may not understand. I’m not going to sit here and degrade you but I thought someone needed to be upfront with you.
Most importantly, it’s your f****** watch, so it doesn’t matter what we think. If THAT particular watch is sentimental in THAT form, don’t be offended by us telling you the dial is wrong. Just go out and enjoy it. That’s the most important thing you can do.
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Radiozoop
·appreciate the words, it just ticked me off some were saying things like troller or old banded member, tried to keep it civil did not loose temper, just kept telling the truth, learning as i go. As for what I paid things have gotten more expensive since covid seeing it in Canada for a while now, remember the price in US dollars was for the repair was 1020,00 the price grew as the repair went new omega crystal main spring two start stop buttons and crown and stem and a ight polish and new water proof gaskets , but thats ok it is only money.
Anyways, I don't think you are a troll. I may not be as fun and pessimistic as some of the more esteemed members, but I'll put out where I can 😜.
Welcome to OF.
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mrbob
·Thanks , appreciate , yes Canada dollar is low but hey we get free heath care lol did you see the picture of the omega with base mile dial like mine has ? is it real or fake dial, ? I do see the extra marks on mine dont know history so ??? would there be fake Omega dials in 1960 ebay did not exist and china was for buying rice?
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YY77
·Thanks , appreciate , yes Canada dollar is low but hey we get free heath care lol did you see the picture of the omega with base mile dial like mine has ? is it real or fake dial, ? I do see the extra marks on mine dont know history so ??? would there be fake Omega dials in 1960 ebay did not exist and china was for buying rice?
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mrbob
·true much nicer dial i do see that , just I was told omega never did base mile watches, and yet found one, but don't know if real or not, does not say seamaster or speed master, I just was looking for mile based outer dials trying to educate myself .
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Davidt
·Its not the 'Base Mile' that's making everyone say it's a redial. It's the overall font (particularly the word 'Seamaster' and 'Omega), the overly large numbers on the sub dials, inconsistent hash marks on the sub dials and the overall quality.
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mrbob
·agree the rest of the dial is not good, was just responding to a "you cant find a base mile omega" thread. I am not saying anything about my dial only showing that omega seemed to make a base mile watch.
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Radiozoop
·true much nicer dial i do see that , just I was told omega never did base mile watches, and yet found one, but don't know if real or not, does not say seamaster or speed master, I just was looking for mile based outer dials trying to educate myself .
I dug up a picture of my all original unfinished 2451-7. There are variances in fonts for the chronograph registers between references, but I want you to see how consistent these watches are with details when they are originals. As you can see on mine, the dial has no inconsistencies with the fonts or numbering. When you see these inconsistencies and they are clearly not from damage (or “patina”), that’s a good sign that the dial on the watch has been refinished, or what we call “re dialed.”
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Dan S
·agree the rest of the dial is not good, was just responding to a "you cant find a base mile omega" thread. I am not saying anything about my dial only showing that omega seemed to make a base mile watch.
The problem is that if you search hard enough, you will find other re-dialed watches to confirm almost anything you want to believe. We see this all the time on the forum. If you find 100 watches that look one way, and 1 watch that is different, you need to use common sense, and not just believe that the single isolated example is correct.
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mrbob
·Thats what I said I think not arguing my dial does not look original, was only suggesting that base mile did exist, when pushed by some one. I even questioned if it was real or not. just trying to learn.
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