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PatrickJ
·You actually ASKED to have your Omega "devalued"? How dare you sir, that borders on sacrilege ! !
Pay it forward.
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·For the record I do not support AD's wide scale discounting. It does happen a lot and in my opinion devalues the brand. Omega should stop it like Rolex do. However, if any of you get a discount good for you. You don't ask in this life you don't get.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for Rentfunny, but my warranty card is stamped by an AD even though my watch was purchased BNIB from a non-Omega AD/ jeweler... Sure seems like the system has found a way to work outside of the monopoly.
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PatrickJ
·It is good you all have an opinion that is what it is all about.
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PatrickJ
·funny, but my warranty card is stamped by an AD even though my watch was purchased BNIB from a non-Omega AD/ jeweler... Sure seems like the system has found a way to work outside of the monopoly.
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Stewart H
·You purposely ASKED to have your Omega "devalued"? How dare you sir, that borders on sacrilege ! !
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watchknut
·Anyone else here feel like they are being trolled? I mean who in their right mind wants to pay full price for ANYTHING?
The next time, which will be the day after never, that I go to an AD to buy a watch, I am going to have my uncle buy it for me. Uncles are the best for buying watches...
The next time, which will be the day after never, that I go to an AD to buy a watch, I am going to have my uncle buy it for me. Uncles are the best for buying watches...
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PatrickJ
·Anyone else here feel like they are being trolled? I mean who in their right mind wants to pay full price for ANYTHING?
The next time, which will be the day after never, that I go to an AD to buy a watch, I am going to have my uncle buy it for me. Uncles are the best for buying watches...
I wish my uncle got me an Omega, it was his fault I got into it after he showed me his 30 years ago. If your uncle is willing why not.
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dennisthemenace
·Anyone else here feel like they are being trolled? I mean who in their right mind wants to pay full price for ANYTHING?
The next time, which will be the day after never, that I go to an AD to buy a watch, I am going to have my uncle buy it for me. Uncles are the best for buying watches...
"Oh no, that's against Omega's rules, I've saved long and hard for this speedmaster and feel obliged to maintain the integrity of the brand and I insist that I pay full list."
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PatrickJ
·I can just imagine Mr J going into the Omega dealer, who offers him 20% off list if he pays cash.
"Oh no, that's against Omega's rules, I've saved long and hard for this speedmaster and feel obliged to maintain the integrity of the brand and I insist that I pay full list."
If we are offered a 5 to 10% realistic discount of course we would take it. But what I am against is specialist grey dealers doing deals with AD's. This devalues the brand and yes it is up to Omega to stop AD's discounting like what Rolex have done. It is the manufacturers responsibility to enforce this and uphold brand integrity. Of course us cheeky chappies will try and get a good deal, me included. I have asked Rolex dealers for discount before, they said no. That is one of the reasons Rolex has the reputation and resale value it enjoys. Omega need some of that as well, it will be good for the end users resale as well, not that they would ever want to sell their watch.
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tyrantlizardrex
·You are aware that it's only a Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price?
Dictating that it had to be sold at that would be price fixing... Which is illegal.
Either this is the Trolliest thread ever, or Patrick... You've just got a let it go... Because frankly, you're coming across as a little unhinged.
Dictating that it had to be sold at that would be price fixing... Which is illegal.
Either this is the Trolliest thread ever, or Patrick... You've just got a let it go... Because frankly, you're coming across as a little unhinged.
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dennisthemenace
·If we are offered a 5 to 10% realistic discount of course we would take it. But what I am against is specialist grey dealers doing deals with AD's. This devalues the brand and yes it is up to Omega to stop AD's discounting like what Rolex have done. It is the manufacturers responsibility to enforce this and uphold brand integrity. Of course us cheeky chappies will try and get a good deal, me included. I have asked Rolex dealers for discount before, they said no. That is one of the reasons Rolex has the reputation and resale value it enjoys. Omega need some of that as well, it will be good for the end users resale as well, not that they would ever want to sell their watch.
Perhaps if Omega offered to buy back any stock not sold within 12 months, the supply to grey market dealers would dry up.
Of course that would make you happy at the expense of many people who are happy to save a couple of grand, because they are confident of what they are buying, and who they are buying from.
Judging by your posts, you're nowhere near that stage yet.
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PatrickJ
·The last time I heard ,Omega dealers pay 60% of RSP to Omega, so have a huge margin to make a profit even if they sell their unsold stock to grey market dealers cheap.
Perhaps if Omega offered to buy back any stock not sold within 12 months, the supply to grey market dealers would dry up.
Of course that would make you happy at the expense of many people who are happy to save a couple of grand, because they are confident of what they are buying, and who they are buying from.
Judging by your posts, you're nowhere near that stage yet.
And you are near that stage now?. Rolex control it well and the consumer wins as they have good resale (not that you would want to sell.) Have you ever thought why they are perceived as the best by the average person? We know they are better watches out there than Rolex. Rolex have built an empire because they stick to their guns and don't take the easy way out. Omega can be on the same stage as Rolex and if they wanted to. What happened to your avatar? It was cool.
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mozartman
·Ouch. I apologize for ruffling some feathers here, my comment wasn't intended to be taken quite so seriously. Among other things, predicting the future is a fool's errand. And Swatch might want to have a monopoly over mechanical movements or parts, or at least Swiss ones, but they don't, at least not at this point. And eliminating the gray market is something very few consumer goods manufacturers can or would try to do. But I think it's fair to say that Swatch (and Richemont) want their repair operations to grow and be profitable, and that their prices are high in many cases. It only stands to reason that they wouldn't want to be undercut by unaffiliated independent repairers. Only time will tell what they do and how the market reacts.
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watchknut
·Omega is not Rolex, and hopefully never becomes all that comes with the brand. I say that having 6 vintage Rolex in my collection, and after having owned over 30 of them. I love them, and I hate them.
Taking the easy way out? What on earth are you talking about?
Yes, Rolex controls the keys to the castle and protects the arguably the most iconic brand in the world. While there are not the same grey market dealers, there are the Bob's Watches of the world that might as well be. They sell pre-owned Rolex that are indistinguishable from new at a fraction of the cost, and tax free...with a warranty. Does Bob's devalue Rolex? No, he adds value and strengthens the brands by offering those who want an option to buying from an AD, and to save $1-5k.
There is a huge difference between those who buy new Rolex from an AD and those who buy vintage pieces.
The same is true for Omega, and if you don't know the difference, you don't know.
As I stated earlier, I hope you gain the necessary experience and fortitude to confidently buy watches...it is a lot of fun, and can be a great investment and money maker.
But until then, may I suggest you try your hand at buying microbrands where you can get watches directly from the manufacturer, pay retail, and have no chance of getting a fake, as no one fakes a homage of a homage, or whatever the hell they produce.
Taking the easy way out? What on earth are you talking about?
Yes, Rolex controls the keys to the castle and protects the arguably the most iconic brand in the world. While there are not the same grey market dealers, there are the Bob's Watches of the world that might as well be. They sell pre-owned Rolex that are indistinguishable from new at a fraction of the cost, and tax free...with a warranty. Does Bob's devalue Rolex? No, he adds value and strengthens the brands by offering those who want an option to buying from an AD, and to save $1-5k.
There is a huge difference between those who buy new Rolex from an AD and those who buy vintage pieces.
The same is true for Omega, and if you don't know the difference, you don't know.
As I stated earlier, I hope you gain the necessary experience and fortitude to confidently buy watches...it is a lot of fun, and can be a great investment and money maker.
But until then, may I suggest you try your hand at buying microbrands where you can get watches directly from the manufacturer, pay retail, and have no chance of getting a fake, as no one fakes a homage of a homage, or whatever the hell they produce.
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PatrickJ
·Omega is not Rolex, and hopefully never becomes all that comes with the brand. I say that having 6 vintage Rolex in my collection, and after having owned over 30 of them. I love them, and I hate them.
Taking the easy way out? What on earth are you talking about?
Yes, Rolex controls the keys to the castle and protects the arguably the most iconic brand in the world. While there are not the same grey market dealers, there are the Bob's Watches of the world that might as well be. They sell pre-owned Rolex that are indistinguishable from new at a fraction of the cost, and tax free...with a warranty. Does Bob's devalue Rolex? No, he adds value and strengthens the brands by offering those who want an option to buying from an AD, and to save $1-5k.
There is a huge difference between those who buy new Rolex from an AD and those who buy vintage pieces.
The same is true for Omega, and if you don't know the difference, you don't know.
As I stated earlier, I hope you gain the necessary experience and fortitude to confidently buy watches...it is a lot of fun, and can be a great investment and money maker.
But until then, may I suggest you try your hand at buying microbrands where you can get watches directly from the manufacturer, pay retail, and have no chance of getting a fake, as no one fakes a homage of a homage, or whatever the hell they produce.
Why are you confusing vintage and buying new? I am talking about modern not vintage.
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PatrickJ
·Then why on earth are you discussing it on the Vintage Forum?
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