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I'm new to watch collecting and feels like I've been drinking from a firehose the last few months. I've finally nailed down the design of a vintage Omega Seamaster that just happens to have the 560 movement. Now, I'm not so tuned into the 560 interest, it's really the below design that I like and I've only seen one other since I began this journey.

With all that said, what I'm really curious about is valuation. This one seems high, but I'm unable to locate this exact model in past sales to compare it to. I think the 560 movement might somewhat add to it price. There's a small stain on the linen dial and a small gouge on the frontside of one of the lugs.

The price is right at $1700.

Thanks!
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Dan S
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There's nothing particularly valuable about a cal 560 in this context, IMO. I know that a limited number were produced, but I still don't think it adds tremendous value to a SMDV. The dial is uncommon, but it's still hard to justify the price.

The dial looks weird, but maybe that's just the photo. And yes, the damage to the case is enough to be distracting.
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Are the hands missing their lume? I think I see the dial texture showing through.

It's a cool dial, but considering all the details I agree that it's overpriced.
 
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There's nothing particularly valuable about a cal 560 in this context, IMO. I know that a limited number were produced, but I still don't think it adds tremendous value to a SMDV. The dial is uncommon, but it's still hard to justify the price.

The dial looks weird, but maybe that's just the photo.
Dan, here's a couple more images of the dial.

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Are the hands missing their lume? I think I see the dial texture showing through.

It's a cool dial, but considering all the details I agree that it's overpriced.
Dsloan, good eye. Yes, it's missing some, if not most, of the lume.
 
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I see, it's just something about the lighting. Is the stain you mentioned the spot between 6 and 7 in that last photo? I just feel like there is some funny photo processing going on, and I can't get a good sense of the dial condition.
 
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Yeah, not really interested in the 560 movement. I actually find that it's unfortunate that it's in a watch that has the exact design I'm after.
 
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I see, it's just something about the lighting. Is the stain you mentioned the spot between 6 and 7 in that last photo? I just feel like there is some funny photo processing going on, and I can't get a good sense of the dial condition.
Yes sir. I think the stain actually spreads past the 7 just below the 9.
 
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Yeah, not really interested in the 560 movement. I actually find that it's unfortunate that it's in a watch that has the exact design I'm after.
When you say "design," you mean the linen dial? The rest of it seems pretty standard.
 
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I see, it's just something about the lighting. Is the stain you mentioned the spot between 6 and 7 in that last photo? I just feel like there is some funny photo processing going on, and I can't get a good sense of the dial condition.
It does seem to be heavy on the linen style. It's one of the things that attracted me to it. But that price tho... I understand that I'm new to this, however, that seemed a bit too high to me.
 
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Yes sir. I think the stain actually spreads past the 7 just below the 9.
OK, if that whole outer quadrant is stained, that is a major flaw, which pretty much eliminates the added value of the linen dial. But again, I don't feel like I can truly gauge the dial from the photos. Without a bracelet, stained dial, damaged case, missing lume ... I'd say the asking price is 3x-4x too high.
 
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When you say "design," you mean the linen dial? The rest of it seems pretty standard.
Yes sir. In addition to the heavy linen, I also like the double batons on the 12, 3, 6, and 9. I've seen plenty of the single baton linen dials, but I've not seen one or two of these.
 
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OK, if that whole outer quadrant is stained, that is a major flaw, which pretty much eliminates the added value of the linen dial. But again, I don't feel like I can truly gauge the dial from the photos. Without a bracelet, stained dial, damaged case, missing lume ... I'd say the asking price is 3x-4x too high.
Got it. The photos are not transferring in their original resolution.

Here's the direct link to get a complete look, if you have time. I think the seller is weighing heavily on his "perceived" "reputation" to get to the asking price...
 
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Got it. The photos are not transferring in their original resolution.

Here's the direct link to get a complete look, if you have time. I think the seller is weighing heavily on his "perceived" "reputation" to get to the asking price...
Oh boy, he has some poorly redialed watches for sale, and still asking $1600 for them.
 
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Got it. The photos are not transferring in their original resolution.

Here's the direct link to get a complete look, if you have time. I think the seller is weighing heavily on his "perceived" "reputation" to get to the asking price...


I would never push a link button from unestablished members......
 
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Yes sir. In addition to the heavy linen, I also like the double batons on the 12, 3, 6, and 9. I've seen plenty of the single baton linen dials, but I've not seen one or two of these.
There are SO many dial designs of Seamasters, DeVilles, and SMDVs from the 60s, so keep looking. And generally they aren't terribly expensive. That seller is just silly.
 
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Oh boy, he has some poorly redialed watches for sale, and still asking $1600 for them.
Dan, I really appreciate you adding your expertise. After reading a ton of your posts over the last few months, you were one that I was hoping to get the attention of. I've learned a lot from you!

I guess I'm going to begrudgingly pass on this one and be patient for similar one to pop up. Making stupid mistakes can be expensive. I want to avoid paying the stupid-tax as much as possible.
 
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I would never push a link button from unestablished members......
I agree TexOmega. Just some help for you to avoid scammers, if you're on a computer, not mobile, when you place the curser on the link you'll see the destination page. I do suppose some might use a redirect technique, but I'm no one of them.

I tried to avoid adding it for this reason, but Dan was having a difficult time seeing the watch details. I thought it would be best to include it for that reason along.

@Dan S, thanks again!
 
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If you're a newbie then it can seem like you simply must jump on an opportunity like this. But, if you've been in the game for a minute, you'll find that: there are endless seamasters coming up for sale and something else cool and better will likely come along if you e patient. And, condition, condition, condition.

Set some Google alerts and buckle in.

That said, these textured dials are super cool. Good luck with your search.
 
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The 560 adds zero value and without a bracelet, at $1700 it’s around twice where it should be.
 
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