One week old watch being denied replacement for bracelet tarnishing

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New member here and unfortunately my first post isn’t for the best Omega ownership experience…

I bought a 3861 in July. I actually traded two Speedmasters (an older 1861 sapphire sandwich and a coaxial automatic Michael Schumacher edition) for the new piece because I’ve been trying to consolidate my collection and I loved the new bracelet and the idea of having a more robust movement to wear for a long time

Within the first week, I noticed very slight tarnishing on a few links on the bracelet that can best be described as rust. I found that others, around the same time period, had reported the same issue to Omega and posted in this forum. In those instances, Omega replaced the bracelet. I immediately sent my watch back to my AD for warranty repair, and they agreed that this was an abnormal issue. Since then, Omega has denied any responsibility and is saying that the watch is within spec. My AD has been trying to fight for me, and even linked the area rep to the previous forum posts, but I haven’t seen this watch since early July which is increasingly concerning.

I understand that the tarnishing is very light, but I feel that paying for a watch at full retail through official means at should mean something, especially considering that this is a BRAND NEW watch worn maybe twice and returned within one week. Any advice on this issue would be much appreciated.

Tarnishing appears on the second and third links in the pictures.
 
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You thought stainless steel is immune from rusting, tarnishing, or oxidizing? I wish you luck!
 
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Rust is typically specifically the "brown" oxidation of Iron (Fe). Although some cheap stainless Steels can absolutely show rust specifically, I would be more inclined to stick to the word tarnish in this case, even if the distinction seems moot. Rust is tarnish, but tarnish isn't always rust.

You thought stainless steel is immune from rusting, tarnishing, or oxidizing? I wish you luck!

You're correct of course, however it's worth adding that Omega uses 316L stainless steel that is often used in Marine and food applications and is pretty corrosion resistant, and this is something that Omega definitely advertises. It's good quality steel but commonly used and one that they are pricing as if it is an incredibly premium product. The quality standards should match the price, and high expectations aren't necessarily unreasonable.


I'm also curious how often we see things like this on new bracelets, or even old ones? to your statement, just how often does this come up as a topic?

Not sure what could cause this kind of tarnish, although the marks here look more like a surface has been lightly abraded to me at a glance ( they don’t all look the same to me as the images the other poster who had this problem shared, and I would need to see more images to make a judgment). I'm not saying that's the case.

The other major thing here is that if Omega is denying the service, why in the world do they still have this watch? It's october, and for me that would be the point I'd be pressing on. Also, if Omega has replaced the bracelet in cases with identical tarnish, that's definitely setting a precedent. Ultimately need to know exactly why Omega denied this.
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contact with salt, chlorides, and bleach can stain 316L.
I live on an island and have a boat worker/fisherman buddy that wears his seamaster daily on the boat. his watch looks terribly stained/oxidized due to the saltwater, fish guts and cleaners they use on the boat which includes bleach.
could you have come into contact with such while wearing it? I wouldn't think normal wearing, sweating a lot, washing hands would do this...
I have a myriad of omega bracelets (as well as many other brands) that I'm careful with but I do wear my SMP in the ocean weekly, and haven't seen any of them do this personally.
Maybe could be a batch of bad steel used? could have gotten a lemon...
 
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I can't see it.

I agree, it's difficult to see much of anything in these photos. I believe this is what the OP is referring to:






VS what we see on Lug's bracelet:

very different look.

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I agree, it's difficult to see much of anything in these photos. I believe this is what the OP is referring to:






VS what we see on Lug's bracelet:

very different look.

Thank you for the thoughts so far. I agree it’s hard to see in the pictures, but it definitely has a brownish hue. I unfortunately cannot send more pictures because I do not have the watch and my AD agreed that it looks off.
 
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Also, this watch did not see any chemicals, solvents, or rough use. Besides those two links, the watch looks flawless. Doesn’t even have hairline scratches. Wore in my car from the AD to home and once at my desk job.

For context, i have a wide variety of watches at various price points. I have some pieces considered to be grails of high horology, and I also have watches that are sub 1000 dollars. As previously alluded to, I’ve owned Omegas for roughly 15 years. I’m not one to baby my watches or to be overly concerned over blemishes. But, this just seems to be off to me.
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I agree, it's difficult to see much of anything in these photos. I believe this is what the OP is referring to:






VS what we see on Lug's bracelet:

very different look.

From what I remember in that thread, Lug’s bracelet started off with slight blemishes as seen in my watch. I would really love for the forum to tell me whether this is worth pursuing further or just to drop it. I’d really love to wear the watch again!
 
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It looks like wear in the places that the links rub against each other.
 
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From what I remember in that thread, Lug’s bracelet started off with slight blemishes as seen in my watch. I would really love for the forum to tell me whether this is worth pursuing further or just to drop it. I’d really love to wear the watch again!

But in the case of Lug's bracelet, it's fairly uniform in terms of location, and occurred on both the inside and outside of the links. In your case, it appears as if this is relatively isolated to a specific region of links 3 and 4, and if you wear your watch on your left wrist, this would put those links on the outside and most forward part of the watch- an area I would most expect to have a chance of some sort of contact with something.

To be clear I'm not saying that's what happened. I don't know what happened. but if that's the extent of the discoloration it definitely looks nothing like Lug's watch and, that may be why Omega is denying replacement.

Be interesting to hear what they say.
 
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Did you try and clean it off? I personally couldn’t see it until Erich pointed it out. Me personally, If Omega or the AD won’t take care of it, I’d just try and use an eraser to clean it and go with it. You’ll forget it after you get the first scratch. Also you got a 5 year warranty. If the bracelet does start rusting, then you can pursue it again.
 
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I appreciate the thoughts, everyone. Based on the feedback, I think I’m inclined to live with it until/if it deteriorates further.

My AD did offer to polish it, and I trust their polisher to do the job correctly, but I am concerned that if we polish it and it DOES deteriorate further, Omega will deny warranty coverage at that point.

Unfortunately, my AD has been handling communication with Omega so I’m unsure if I’ll get an official answer out of this other than that they’re denying it is defective at all. In that case, it seems that Omega is implying that these marks are within spec for a brand new watch or that I put the marks on the watch (which I admit is possible but I truly feel that I did not expose this watch to any weird substances and that I did not knock it in a way that would cause these marks).

At the end of the day, this is just a material item that will eventually be treated as a sport/tool watch should. I just found this extremely puzzling and I admit it made me question QC operations at Swatch group. If it does not further deteriorate, however, I’ll happily live with the watch as is.
 
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Good choice. Just enjoy the watch. At least you did voice a situation so if later down the line it gets worse, you at least can fall back on that you did mention this before. As for QC, no watch brand is perfect. I had a Rolex 124060 that the bezel was ever so slightly misaligned to the dial. I just lived with it until it went in for its first service but I ended up selling it before hand. I also had Pelagos years ago that one of the lume plots literally fell off and another lume plot wasn’t filled in completely with lume. I took it back to the AD and they refunded the money as they didn’t have another Pelagos in stock. Grats on the watch though. Wear it in good health.
 
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Good choice. Just enjoy the watch. At least you did voice a situation so if later down the line it gets worse, you at least can fall back on that you did mention this before. As for QC, no watch brand is perfect. I had a Rolex 124060 that the bezel was ever so slightly misaligned to the dial. I just lived with it until it went in for its first service but I ended up selling it before hand. I also had Pelagos years ago that one of the lume plots literally fell off and another lume plot wasn’t filled in completely with lume. I took it back to the AD and they refunded the money as they didn’t have another Pelagos in stock. Grats on the watch though. Wear it in good health.
Thanks for the perspective here!
 
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What about a simple test wiping with some alcohol on a clean white cloth? Wipe and see what sort of residue appears on the cloth.

A light wiping of Mother's Mag Polish, not a hard rubbing, also might quickly rectify matters. Wipe off the Mother's then do a final clean with a soft brush and the alcohol.

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No matter how much you trust your dealer's polishing ability I would not go down this route. Get the watch back and see if some very mild cleaning with some of the products mentioned previously clears it up. If it deteriorates further have it addressed when it becomes much more apparent. But it makes no sense to have the AD keep it while you try to get Omega to move on it, they have said it's not an issue.
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Rust can also appear on stainless steel if the surface is contaminated with non-stainless steel or iron.

Yes, and this is the reason why stainless steel and mild steel are stored strictly separately in material warehouses. Both material should never get in contact with each other, in particular in humid atmosphere.

The petrolheads like to use stainless steel bolts. Bad idea, because the stainless steel bolts will seize solid in mild steel threads ...