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Replacement Link for 1469/811 bracelet does NOT fit.???

  1. oilseed Apr 13, 2018

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    I have a customer who came into my shop looking to have a link installed for his Speedmaster
    (mod 3510.5, Ref 175.0032)
    The Bracelet on this watch is marked 1469/811. The Links (removable) near the clasp are 16mm wide.
    I 'believe' the Omega part number (for a replacement link) is 114ST1469

    When ordering a link, I used those numbers.
    however, the LINK I received (from my distributor) does not fit?? (the location of the friction PIN is NOT in the same location as the holes on the links in the original bracelet.) Also, there is a FINE cut in the edge of the link (opposite the PIN Hole) that does NOT exist on the removable links that are on the original bracelet.

    When installing this 'replacement LINK' it BINDS with the adjoining link and does not allow those to links to rotate (or relax normally). this is not correct.

    I sent the bracelet to my distributor, he worked with HIS watchmaker to see if the link would fit and it does NOT.
    They ordered a NEW link (from Omega) according to the bracelet code (1469). again, the NEW LINK does not fit (as well).

    I’m checking the Omega community to see:
    A) has their been some ‘physical changes’ to the 1469 Bracelets (over the production life) (that were first produced by Omega) and the current PARTS/links /bracelets being SOLD by Omega?
    B) has anyone else (that you are aware of) had a similar issue when attempting to fit a factory link to a Bracelet that came with their watch??

    This mystery has me stumped. I cannot figure out WHY the replacement links do not fit the bracelet.
    Seems almost like the Bracelet is mismarked? (is that even possible) and is indeed a ‘different’ Bracelet (which requires different links)?

    I don’t know enough about Omega watches and Bracelets to answer these questions.
    maybe you have some answers.
     
  2. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Apr 13, 2018

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    There is another newer version of the reduced with an improved bracelet. Bracelets look the same from the outside but the links are not interchangeable. I wonder if your clasp may have been exchanged i.e. you have the newer bracelet with an older clasp , if that’s even possible . I have one of the newer ones around somewhere I will see if I can get the part number. Here is a link to what the newer bracelet looks like.
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...ersion-fresh-service-october-2017-b-ps.65345/
     
  3. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Apr 13, 2018

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    The newer bracelet is a 1471 which is on the left . F81D623E-043E-44C4-A874-BB841B14C121.jpeg F158876D-1EF6-47B3-807F-93E323143FEF.jpeg
     
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  4. oilseed Apr 14, 2018

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    Thanks for the reply. intersting possibility (that it, the bracelet, may be a 1471). How would I confirm that (before dropping
    $$ to purchase a link?

    here are some pictures of the bracelet and Link I have.

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    Bracelet from Customer with Speedmaster 3510.5. Bracelet Clasp marked 1469/811

    IMG_1152.JPG

    IMG_1153.JPG

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    Shows the removable links on the customers bracelet

    IMG_1156.JPG
    IMG_1157.JPG
    16mm wide.

    if anyone can confirm that this 'bracelet' is indeed a 1471, that would be great. thanks
     
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  5. oilseed Apr 14, 2018

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    Here are pictures of 2 other 16mm links.

    Link_1471.jpg
    I don't think this is the one I need, due to the lack of the 'support bar' under the link rollers.

    maybe it's THIS one??
    Link_1479a.jpg

    thoughts?

    thanks
     
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  6. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Apr 14, 2018

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    The link you purchased should fit that bracelet.
     
  7. oilseed Apr 14, 2018

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    Yes, you think it would, but it does not. (as I noted). Your theory that the 'buckle' was swapped (and not original to the bracelet)
    is (I guess) possible. Since on the Buckle and End links are marked (and the bracelet is not), so no way to 'confirm' that the Bracelet is
    Actually a 1469. This is why I'm asking the Omega community for assistance.
     
  8. oilseed Apr 18, 2018

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    QUESTION: is it 'POSSIBLE' that the 'Bracelet sections' (not the Buckle or 'end links') are NOT OMEGA?
    Since the Bracelet is NOT Marked, are there 3rd party (high quality) Bracelets being made to 'look like' Omega?
    As you can see from the pictures, if this 'theory' is true, this is a 'very good' replica.
    if you know of such a thing, please let me know.

    thanks
     
  9. oilseed Apr 24, 2018

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    I was, hoping, someone on this forum and some ideas for me (Thanks for Vercingetorix for your assistance).
    just trying to keep this post alive. :)

    maybe here's a different Q you can answer for me.

    what's the DIFFERENCE beteen the 1469 and the 1479? from the pics I posted, they looks the same. (?)
    does anyone have a 1479 bracelet?

    thanks
     
  10. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Apr 24, 2018

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    1479/812 is for a Speedmaster Professional, and is 20mm where it connects to the watch.
     
  11. oilseed Apr 25, 2018

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    Forgive my ignorance.... what's a Speedmaster Professional (Mod? Ref?)
    thanks
     
  12. oilseed Aug 31, 2018

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    Update on this post and request.
    I 'never' did identify the Bracelet used on this watch. (sad). Maybe, it was an 'aftermaket bracelet' (made to look like 1469, but did not have the
    holes drilled to the same specifications (that's why the extrea link did not fit).

    if 'ANYONE' reads this post (no matter how old it is at the time), please reply if you have relevent info.
    thanks! :)
     
  13. johnnyb2016 Sep 16, 2022

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    I'm in the same position as you were.
    Did you ever find a solution for the additional link?
    I have a 1991 Omega Speedmaster, same bracelet 1496, but need an additional link!
     
  14. SkunkPrince Sep 16, 2022

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    I think the customer of the OP had a fake bracelet.

    And I think you mean 1469? The part number specified, 114ST1469, is what you need, and you can contact Omega directly or using an authorized dealer to obtain said link.
     
  15. johnnyb2016 Sep 16, 2022

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    Yep, 1469, apologies.
    The bracelet is 16mm wide, the 114ST1469 appear to be 18mm wide.
    Again the bracelet does not have the cut in the links
    I know the full history of the watch and have the original receipt of sale from new.
    If the bracelet is not genuine, it would have needed to be replaced before the watch was sold new.
     
  16. SkunkPrince Sep 16, 2022

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    This is the official Omega document. Believe or not as you will.
     
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  17. johnnyb2016 Sep 16, 2022

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    Would be nice to have a set of dimensions for the 114ST1469
     
  18. SkunkPrince Sep 16, 2022

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    The best thing you can do is contact Omega and share your concerns. There might well have been an engineering change that leads to incompatibilty. Asking us won't help you much unless one of the watchmakers can share any knowledge.
     
  19. johnnyb2016 Sep 16, 2022

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    Appreciate the advise.
    Some pictures attached
     
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  20. paddymoran Sep 17, 2022

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    Hi Johnny, if you examine the picture from April 2018 that shows the cut in the new link and compare this to your bracelet I think you’ll find that the links in your bracelet have the same cut. It’s perhaps 1mm in length but it is there on each link. Your bracelet looks like my own 1469 and I’d expect that’s it genuine. You can search for links online if it’s more convenient. Let us know how it works out for you.