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One fine gold dress watch but which one?

  1. AlphaToOmega Nov 4, 2021

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    I am in the market for a gold dress watch, preferably pre-owned and possible rose gold. The shortlist so far is PP Calatrava, ALS Saxonia, VC Patrimony and IWC Portofino - have I missed one? I am looking for a clean uncomplicated dial that will stand the test of time. Which one would your recommend? And which reference?
     
  2. gbesq Nov 4, 2021

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    Can’t go wrong with a gold or gold capped vintage pie pan Constellation.
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  3. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 4, 2021

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    Glashutte original Pano series has to be a contender too, extreme good value as are many JLCs
     
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  4. Vizard Nov 4, 2021

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    I am in the same market.

    I am struggling with whether I want a date complication or not.

    Not sure which country you're in, but our local PP AD has a very nice used 5227R with fresh PP service and IIRC new strap.
     
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  5. Pun Nov 4, 2021

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    I believe a genuine dress watch should not have any complications, not even date. Noble metal dress watch should have hour, minute and a second sub dial to complete the look.
     
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  6. Vizard Nov 4, 2021

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    My son said the same.
     
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  7. gbesq Nov 4, 2021

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    Those are the traditional rules, but I’m not sure that they are closely followed anymore. No one would argue that this isn’t a dress watch.
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  8. Pun Nov 4, 2021

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    He is a WIS!
     
  9. Pun Nov 4, 2021

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    Very few can make this happen. This is a dress watch with an exception, not as a rule!
    Beautiful watch indeed...
     
  10. cvalue13 Nov 4, 2021

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    famous last OF words…
     
  11. gbesq Nov 4, 2021

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    Lol, I CAN’T argue with that. :D
     
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  12. Evitzee Nov 4, 2021

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    In my view a dress watch should be relatively thin, less than 36mm, and preferably yellow or rose gold. If you are going a bit vintage an AP with their ultra thin 2121 movement can be had for a reasonable price, throw in a factory service and you have a high grade dress watch that is about 6mm thick with one of the greatest automatic movements ever made. It should be about high end luxury throughout, just not the appearance.
     
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  13. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 4, 2021

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    Zenith vintage

    Rose Gold
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  14. Tubber Nov 4, 2021

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    I am looking for exactly the same thing. I am considering the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds.
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    Would a JLC Reverso be considered a dress watch? I know it was designed for Polo and, as such, a sports watch but..............

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  15. Vizard Nov 4, 2021

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    The small seconds is lovely but large IMHO.
     
  16. Tubber Nov 4, 2021

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    My eye-sight ain't getting any better, the larger size makes it easier to read without spectacles.
     
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  17. Evitzee Nov 4, 2021

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    What constitutes a dress watch is open to many interpretations. The Master Thins certainly are, especially in gold. A smaller gold Reverso could certainly be considered a dress watch too, especially if on a dark brown or black strap. Mine is on a chocolate leather strap with ecru stitching, it's less formal but I still consider it a dress watch. Only your opinion counts, no one is going around judging your watch.
     
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  18. Tubber Nov 4, 2021

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    That's what I was thinking and good to know someone else has the same opinion :thumbsup:.
     
  19. Vizard Nov 4, 2021

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    If you need a 39mm dress watch so you can read it, perhaps you need to see an optician. ;)

    But seriously, dress watches becoming over large is a bugbear of mine and I think 39 is too large. On a normal wrist I think 36-37 is the sweet spot. But even 37 can look large with a flat bezel.
     
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  20. Tubber Nov 4, 2021

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    I have seen an optician and I wear glasses for reading.
    Even if 39mm is considered vulgar for a dress watch I would prefer that to putting spectacles on every time I wish to see the time. I have sold most of my smaller 36mm watches such as the military and Glycine Airman watches for that reason. Nearly all the watches I have at the moment are dive watches, around 40mm, because of the legibility of the dial.
     
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