One fine gold dress watch but which one?

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I am in the market for a gold dress watch, preferably pre-owned and possible rose gold. The shortlist so far is PP Calatrava, ALS Saxonia, VC Patrimony and IWC Portofino - have I missed one? I am looking for a clean uncomplicated dial that will stand the test of time. Which one would your recommend? And which reference?
 
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Can’t go wrong with a gold or gold capped vintage pie pan Constellation.
 
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Glashutte original Pano series has to be a contender too, extreme good value as are many JLCs
 
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I am in the market for a gold dress watch, preferably pre-owned and possible rose gold. The shortlist so far is PP Calatrava, ALS Saxonia, VC Patrimony and IWC Portofino - have I missed one? I am looking for a clean uncomplicated dial that will stand the test of time. Which one would your recommend? And which reference?

I am in the same market.

I am struggling with whether I want a date complication or not.

Not sure which country you're in, but our local PP AD has a very nice used 5227R with fresh PP service and IIRC new strap.
 
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I am struggling with whether I want a date complication or not.
I believe a genuine dress watch should not have any complications, not even date. Noble metal dress watch should have hour, minute and a second sub dial to complete the look.
 
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I believe a genuine dress watch should not have any complications, not even date. Noble metal dress watch should have hour, minute and a second sub dial to complete the look.

My son said the same.
 
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I believe a genuine dress watch should not have any complications, not even date. Noble metal dress watch should have hour, minute and a second sub dial to complete the look.
Those are the traditional rules, but I’m not sure that they are closely followed anymore. No one would argue that this isn’t a dress watch.
 
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Those are the traditional rules, but I’m not sure that they are closely followed anymore. No one would argue that this isn’t a dress watch.
Very few can make this happen. This is a dress watch with an exception, not as a rule!
Beautiful watch indeed...
 
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In my view a dress watch should be relatively thin, less than 36mm, and preferably yellow or rose gold. If you are going a bit vintage an AP with their ultra thin 2121 movement can be had for a reasonable price, throw in a factory service and you have a high grade dress watch that is about 6mm thick with one of the greatest automatic movements ever made. It should be about high end luxury throughout, just not the appearance.
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I am looking for exactly the same thing. I am considering the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds.


Would a JLC Reverso be considered a dress watch? I know it was designed for Polo and, as such, a sports watch but..............

 
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I am looking for exactly the same thing. I am considering the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds.


Would a JLC Reverso be considered a dress watch? I know it was designed for Polo and, as such, a sports watch but..............


The small seconds is lovely but large IMHO.
 
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The small seconds is lovely but large IMHO.
My eye-sight ain't getting any better, the larger size makes it easier to read without spectacles.
 
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I am looking for exactly the same thing. I am considering the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds.

Would a JLC Reverso be considered a dress watch? I know it was designed for Polo and, as such, a sports watch but..............
What constitutes a dress watch is open to many interpretations. The Master Thins certainly are, especially in gold. A smaller gold Reverso could certainly be considered a dress watch too, especially if on a dark brown or black strap. Mine is on a chocolate leather strap with ecru stitching, it's less formal but I still consider it a dress watch. Only your opinion counts, no one is going around judging your watch.
 
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What constitutes a dress watch is open to many interpretations. A smaller gold Reverso could certainly be considered a dress watch, especially if on a dark brown or black strap.
That's what I was thinking and good to know someone else has the same opinion 👍.
 
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My eye-sight ain't getting any better, the larger size makes it easier to read without spectacles.

If you need a 39mm dress watch so you can read it, perhaps you need to see an optician. 😉

But seriously, dress watches becoming over large is a bugbear of mine and I think 39 is too large. On a normal wrist I think 36-37 is the sweet spot. But even 37 can look large with a flat bezel.
 
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If you need a 39mm dress watch so you can read it, perhaps you need to see an optician. 😉

But seriously, dress watches becoming over large is a bugbear of mine and I think 39 is too large. On a normal wrist I think 36-37 is the sweet spot. But even 37 can look large with a flat bezel.

I have seen an optician and I wear glasses for reading.
Even if 39mm is considered vulgar for a dress watch I would prefer that to putting spectacles on every time I wish to see the time. I have sold most of my smaller 36mm watches such as the military and Glycine Airman watches for that reason. Nearly all the watches I have at the moment are dive watches, around 40mm, because of the legibility of the dial.