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On House Arrest
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Walrus
·God aren’t the twist and turns we take a bit shocking at times. It seems the last couple weeks I’ve been dodging Covid, getting tested and waiting for results. I try not to bitch too much about it realizing it’s a global thing and the big bad world doesn’t give too much thought to any inconvenience I face but on the way home today I got a call from the director of the assisted living place where my mother resides informing me my mother is covid positive. Seems like it’s just presenting as a mild cold at this point but they are recommending monoclonal antibody treatment. I had to fill out 16 pages and reviewed the info which was summed up in the last sentence saying “it may help or it may do nothing we really don’t know it’s experimental.”
She is fully vaxed although they never told me about the booster but I signed to let it happen and I am 99.9% sure it did. Unfortunately moms is no longer with it enough to know she has Covid or what Covid is but she is ok just wondering why she’s stuck in her room more than usual.
I wish I could trade my negative test for my mommy’s positive test but down here we don’t deal the deck we just play the percentages. I hoped I’m making the right choice with this monoclonal antibody treatment if DPH is making a special trip to give it to those who are positive or came in contact with someone positive at the facility I’ll roll with the trust science thing but we are making a lot of immediate decisions without long term data so it’s very uncomfortable making decisions for someone else.
If I bitch again about having to wait three days for a test and two days for negative results could someone please tell me to stfu cause I guarantee it’ll happen at least two more times this winter and I seem to have a built in forgetter.
She is fully vaxed although they never told me about the booster but I signed to let it happen and I am 99.9% sure it did. Unfortunately moms is no longer with it enough to know she has Covid or what Covid is but she is ok just wondering why she’s stuck in her room more than usual.
I wish I could trade my negative test for my mommy’s positive test but down here we don’t deal the deck we just play the percentages. I hoped I’m making the right choice with this monoclonal antibody treatment if DPH is making a special trip to give it to those who are positive or came in contact with someone positive at the facility I’ll roll with the trust science thing but we are making a lot of immediate decisions without long term data so it’s very uncomfortable making decisions for someone else.
If I bitch again about having to wait three days for a test and two days for negative results could someone please tell me to stfu cause I guarantee it’ll happen at least two more times this winter and I seem to have a built in forgetter.
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Duracuir1
··Never Used A KodakGod aren’t the twist and turns we take a bit shocking at times. It seems the last couple weeks I’ve been dodging Covid, getting tested and waiting for results. I try not to bitch too much about it realizing it’s a global thing and the big bad world doesn’t give too much thought to any inconvenience I face but on the way home today I got a call from the director of the assisted living place where my mother resides informing me my mother is covid positive. Seems like it’s just presenting as a mild cold at this point but they are recommending monoclonal antibody treatment. I had to fill out 16 pages and reviewed the info which was summed up in the last sentence saying “it may help or it may do nothing we really don’t know it’s experimental.”
She is fully vaxed although they never told me about the booster but I signed to let it happen and I am 99.9% sure it did. Unfortunately moms is no longer with it enough to know she has Covid or what Covid is but she is ok just wondering why she’s stuck in her room more than usual.
I wish I could trade my negative test for my mommy’s positive test but down hear we don’t deal the deck we just play the percentages. I hoped I’m making the right choice with this monoclonal antibody treatment if DPH is making a special trip to give it to those who are positive or came in contact with someone positive at the facility I’ll roll with the trust science thing but we are making a lot of immediate decisions without long term data so it’s very uncomfortable making decisions for someone else.
If I bitch again about having to wait three days for a test and two days for negative results could someone please tell me to stfu cause I guarantee it’ll happen at least two more times this winter and I seem to have a built in forgetter.
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·@Walrus I sincerely hope that your mom has a full and swift recovery.
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·Well thanks guys but the way it was presented to me they are having an outbreak at the assisted living place that began with one staff and one resident worked it’s way up to 15 currently and I gotta say in the early days the state my mother is in sent the national guard into every nursing facility to test every resident weekly and due to the outbreak the Department of public health actually has staff working in the facility it really sounds like they are doing everything they can to maintain and hats off for that.
Of course I appreciate the well wishes but my actually point was often when these Covid threads pop up they become bickering feasts and everyone needs to show how right they are or how wrong and stupid someone is for having a different opinion on a science that we frequently get mixed messages on then something can come around and remind you “oh yeah people are getting sick and some families have been changed forever.”
I’ve been bitching quite a bit as parts of my job that used to literally take 20 minutes can now take up to 4 hours of being on the phone, most of that time on hold. I haven’t been callous or blind to the people suffering part I think maybe I try to put it out of my mind at times so I can carry on and do what needs to get done but when yourself or a loved one get this never ending bug It makes that “pushing it aside” a little harder. So again I appreciate the well wishes of course but unfortunately my mother already has an illness she will not be recovering from so this was just more of a reminder to myself to stop stressing all the stupid things and remember the human part, can’t lose sight of that.
Of course I appreciate the well wishes but my actually point was often when these Covid threads pop up they become bickering feasts and everyone needs to show how right they are or how wrong and stupid someone is for having a different opinion on a science that we frequently get mixed messages on then something can come around and remind you “oh yeah people are getting sick and some families have been changed forever.”
I’ve been bitching quite a bit as parts of my job that used to literally take 20 minutes can now take up to 4 hours of being on the phone, most of that time on hold. I haven’t been callous or blind to the people suffering part I think maybe I try to put it out of my mind at times so I can carry on and do what needs to get done but when yourself or a loved one get this never ending bug It makes that “pushing it aside” a little harder. So again I appreciate the well wishes of course but unfortunately my mother already has an illness she will not be recovering from so this was just more of a reminder to myself to stop stressing all the stupid things and remember the human part, can’t lose sight of that.
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·This is starting to reach almost comical proportions. My boss started calling me yesterday and included a txt to call him back ASAP. I was a bit bummed cause I figured he was going to ask me to work and I was in the midst of working my other job which I neglected to tell him I have. But nope he was calling with the happy news of a “confirmed COVID exposure” of which I was around the positive person. It goes back to this past Tuesday which I’m pretty sure was the exact day I was able to return to work with my own negative Covid test after a cold.
Now since I’m vaxed I guess I’m supposed to act like everything is normal but monitor for symptoms. The wrinkle here is my mother is getting that experimental antibody treatment today or tomorrow and now I can’t go up there and see how she makes out but I may need to go up and sign some more paperwork they will have me do it outside in my car our something. This really is making things a bit tricky. I hope @Duracuir1 fine leather goods doesn’t mind me venting it in his thread I just don’t want to start another Covid thread since they don’t go well. On a plus note the person who is Covid positive that I came in contact with is just reporting “a real bad cold” I hope he stays that way and all is well but I know his mother in law is staying with him so it’s probably causing some difficulties keeping everyone separate and safe but he does say he avoids her as much as possible in general so maybe there is one bright spot here.
Now since I’m vaxed I guess I’m supposed to act like everything is normal but monitor for symptoms. The wrinkle here is my mother is getting that experimental antibody treatment today or tomorrow and now I can’t go up there and see how she makes out but I may need to go up and sign some more paperwork they will have me do it outside in my car our something. This really is making things a bit tricky. I hope @Duracuir1 fine leather goods doesn’t mind me venting it in his thread I just don’t want to start another Covid thread since they don’t go well. On a plus note the person who is Covid positive that I came in contact with is just reporting “a real bad cold” I hope he stays that way and all is well but I know his mother in law is staying with him so it’s probably causing some difficulties keeping everyone separate and safe but he does say he avoids her as much as possible in general so maybe there is one bright spot here.
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Omegafanman
·I suspect this will be my last post for a while (certainly on anything regarding Covid)
@Walrus
Having managed key services into and out of lockdown while maintaining service levels and not losing any staff. IMHO a key thing is to define contact for your organisation. Hospitals and educational environments are high risk and will therefore have a proportionally higher contact rate. In the UK there was some pressure for key workers to delete contact apps for that reason which is counter productive.
I would say being within two meters without PPE and in an unventilated space for 15 minutes could be considered a useful guideline. If you have broken those rules in a work environment you need to explain why. We had to modify the rule (based on government guidelines) so vaccinated people were not impacted. This (IMHO) while encouraging vaccination was overall a mistake as it makes no difference to infection and transmission (accepting the reduction in hospital admission risk due to vaccines with current variants). I should add we did have a transmission via keyboards so any shared computer should be sanitised between shifts. Gloves and hand cleaning remain important .
@Walrus
Having managed key services into and out of lockdown while maintaining service levels and not losing any staff. IMHO a key thing is to define contact for your organisation. Hospitals and educational environments are high risk and will therefore have a proportionally higher contact rate. In the UK there was some pressure for key workers to delete contact apps for that reason which is counter productive.
I would say being within two meters without PPE and in an unventilated space for 15 minutes could be considered a useful guideline. If you have broken those rules in a work environment you need to explain why. We had to modify the rule (based on government guidelines) so vaccinated people were not impacted. This (IMHO) while encouraging vaccination was overall a mistake as it makes no difference to infection and transmission (accepting the reduction in hospital admission risk due to vaccines with current variants). I should add we did have a transmission via keyboards so any shared computer should be sanitised between shifts. Gloves and hand cleaning remain important .
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LesXL
·Like your user name says... I do hope you're a "Dur à cuire" so you get better soon, knowing you're a "negative" person 😀
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·I suspect this will be my last post for a while (certainly on anything regarding Covid)
@Walrus
Having managed key services into and out of lockdown while maintaining service levels and not losing any staff. IMHO a key thing is to define contact for your organisation. Hospitals and educational environments are high risk and will therefore have a proportionally higher contact rate. In the UK there was some pressure for key workers to delete contact apps for that reason which is counter productive.
I would say being within two meters without PPE and in an unventilated space for 15 minutes could be considered a useful guideline. If you have broken those rules in a work environment you need to explain why. We had to modify the rule (based on government guidelines) so vaccinated people were not impacted. This (IMHO) while encouraging vaccination was overall a mistake as it makes no difference to infection and transmission (accepting the reduction in hospital admission risk due to vaccines with current variants). I should add we did have a transmission via keyboards so any shared computer should be sanitised between shifts. Gloves and hand cleaning remain important .
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·Well it’s kinda cut and dry here. The poor dude was working third shift and as the night progressed he began feeling sick. Stuck out the night, reported it in the AM and set up a Covid test has not been back since didn’t get the results until yesterday as getting a PCR result is a bit back logged. I think it’s just humans being humans. We make the best calls we can. Sometimes you get up for work feeling a bit groggy wonder if you are ok and if you should go to work but tbh I feel groggy until about 9:30am and finally wake up and feel fine about an hour and a half into a shift. This is just gonna be life for a while apparently but it’s odd this is the first time since COVID landed it’s been impacting us in such a major way. Actually this is out first confirmed positive with numerous (colds) that were all negative/. Edit- sorry I made an incorrect statement we have had other positives found during surveillance testing but everyone was asymptomatic this has been going on so long I can’t keep track anymore .
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·That would trigger a risk assessment for surface contacts and a deep clean under our revised protocol.
It is not just about the 1-1 contacts. Surface transmission is a risk if the person is symptomatic and depending on the materials they and others may have contacted. Also you don’t want to trigger contact isolation if someone was within touching distance for three seconds but had a mask and gloves on. Like I said before we had a good run and maintained a valid if reduced service level with our contact definitions and risk assessments.
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·That would trigger a risk assessment for surface contacts and a deep clean under our revised protocol.
It is not just about the 1-1 contacts. Surface transmission is a risk if the person is symptomatic and depending on the materials they and others may have contacted. Also you don’t want to trigger contact isolation if someone was within touching distance for three seconds but had a mask and gloves on. Like I said before we had a good run and maintained a valid if reduced service level with our contact definitions and risk assessments.
I was speaking with the director of my mothers place she was talking about the impossible situation of maintaining protocol on a locked Alzheimer’s unit. Once again things look great on paper just try putting them in practice see how far you get. By the way not being confrontational here just things do not go well or orderly in various situations and you just do the best you can to keep yourself and everyone safe but when invisible stuff is flying around it’s an interesting battle to fight.
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·… things look great on paper just try putting them in practice see how far you get.
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·Fortunately in this case now that the positive result is in I get to call it “someone else’s problem” since I was off Saturday, Sunday and will be off tomorrow (Monday). We have all kinds of protocol that look great an organized on paper but try putting them into practice in a place that never shuts down and patients that aren’t keen on following rules or hygiene it’s always a fun time looks like I get to sit the brunt of this one out.
I was speaking with the director of my mothers place she was talking about the impossible situation of maintaining protocol on a locked Alzheimer’s unit. Once again things look great on paper just try putting them in practice see how far you get. By the way not being confrontational here just things do not go well or orderly in various situations and you just do the best you can to keep yourself and everyone safe but when invisible stuff is flying around it’s an interesting battle to fight.
I would hope the staff and visitors can follow rules as they would be the infection source to a closed unit?
I was dealing with a care home situation since 2016 but sadly that ended in July when they died. Made for a interesting few months during the pandemic.
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I am a great believer that rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of the wise man.... but they are not always a bad thing / the cowboys need to follow them more ....and I never did shoot anyone at the range......
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·Fortunately in this case now that the positive result is in I get to call it “someone else’s problem” since I was off Saturday, Sunday and will be off tomorrow (Monday). We have all kinds of protocol that look great an organized on paper but try putting them into practice in a place that never shuts down and patients that aren’t keen on following rules or hygiene it’s always a fun time looks like I get to sit the brunt of this one out.
I was speaking with the director of my mothers place she was talking about the impossible situation of maintaining protocol on a locked Alzheimer’s unit. Once again things look great on paper just try putting them in practice see how far you get. By the way not being confrontational here just things do not go well or orderly in various situations and you just do the best you can to keep yourself and everyone safe but when invisible stuff is flying around it’s an interesting battle to fight.
This is the problem for most of things. Theory is only theory. You can't apply it in real life...There is always a distortion.
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·FYI this is not advice of any kind but if you find yourself in the position where you have to make a decision for someone else my mother is responding quite well to that experimental antibody treatment and others in the facility who received it not one had any negative side effects and a few reported feeling better within 24hrs. I couldn’t go up and see her due to my recent exposure which kinda sucks but this is how things go these days.
