Omega Watch Box Philip Head Screws Authenticity?

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Looking to Purchase a Omega Aqua-terra worldtimer off the grey market but i noticed the watch box uses philip (+) screws instead of the flathead (-) screws. Should i be concerned?

Pictures attached. Screw in top right of first image.

Appreciate your opinions 😀

 
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We are really getting some odd stuff here. Yesterday is was about someone wanting detailed RFPs from potential watchmakers for a standard repair job. Now it's about screws on a box. Worry about the watch and its documentation (the three red cards), not the box.
 
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Mass produced items have been using PH screws for ages.
 
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Yes unfortuantely there is no paperwork with this one. I am more concerned as it could be an indicator that the watch is a dupe.
 
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The watch is fake... I can see a specific jewel out of place that the fakes always have. 100%. The box, obviously, is fake too.
 
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I know that there are essentially perfect replica fakes for submariners and Daytona's.

But if they're making Aqua Terra world timers this good, the expensive watch gig is just finished.
 
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I know that there are essentially perfect replica fakes for submariners and Daytona's.

But if they're making Aqua Terra world timers this good, the expensive watch gig is just finished.
I have never seen a perfect replica of any watch.

A bit extreme, but no, it’s not.
 
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I have never seen a perfect replica of any watch.

A bit extreme, but no, it’s not.

The fake Rolex watches at about $1,000 (I know there's a term for them but I can't remember it) you'll have to examine the movement to tell.

Or have a genuine one next to it to compare slightly different shades of dial color.

But my point was that they can do great fakes of the most popular watches in the world. And this watch isn't in that category.
 
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The fake Rolex watches at about $1,000 (I know there's a term for them but I can't remember it)
They are called fake 😉

Like I said, I have not seen a perfect fake/replica of any watch. Some might look good on the exterior but all fall short with the movement.
 
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The fake Rolex watches at about $1,000 (I know there's a term for them but I can't remember it) you'll have to examine the movement to tell.

Or have a genuine one next to it to compare slightly different shades of dial color.

But my point was that they can do great fakes of the most popular watches in the world. And this watch isn't in that category.

Super clones is maybe the term you're looking for. Or just broadly they're called replicas, fake generally is reserved for the street side quartz abominations in that scene. Though, yes, obviously they're all fake.

There is also frankens where it's part replica part real, like putting a real dial in a fake watch to try to resolve some of the flaws and make it harder to spot. All reps have tells, some more than others, but they can be dangerously convincing, especially hype Rolexes. You often don't need to examine the movement but you need to research that model's flaws, nobody can tell on wrist with the really good ones.

But as Scarecrow Boat says, they all fall apart at the movement. All reps fail and good luck getting them serviced with a fake movement. I imagine the exterior facade would fall apart under a loupe as well.
 
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Super clones is maybe the term you're looking for. Or just broadly they're called replicas, fake generally is reserved for the street side quartz abominations in that scene. Though, yes, obviously they're all fake.

There is also frankens where it's part replica part real, like putting a real dial in a fake watch to try to resolve some of the flaws and make it harder to spot. All reps have tells, some more than others, but they can be dangerously convincing, especially hype Rolexes. You often don't need to examine the movement but you need to research that model's flaws, nobody can tell on wrist with the really good ones.

But as Scarecrow Boat says, they all fall apart at the movement. All reps fail and good luck getting them serviced with a fake movement. I imagine the exterior facade would fall apart under a loupe as well.
That's the term. I watched this video way back, short of taking the back off and/or being quite the expert nobody is going to know.


But for $1,000 are you getting it serviced? My Hamilton Murph is keeping pretty bad time at the moment and due for a service in a year, and I'm internally debating the cost of that.
 
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Does the genuine box have ‘crop’ on it?

Aqua Terra is Water Land so a good growing medium.
 
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But for $1,000 are you getting it serviced?
Good luck with that. No watch maker that respects themselves, their work, or this hobby will ever accept a fake/Counterfeit.

That's the term.
No matter what term you try to describe them as, it’s fake. Replica = Fake/Counterfeit. Clone, Super Clone, and 1:1 = Fake/Counterfeit.

If you want to see a little behind the scenes of a fake, look at this post I made a little while back:
 
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Super clones is maybe the term you're looking for. Or just broadly they're called replicas, fake generally is reserved for the street side quartz abominations in that scene. Though, yes, obviously they're all counterfeits.

There is also frankens where it's part replica part real, like putting a real dial in a fake watch to try to resolve some of the flaws and make it harder to spot. All reps have tells, some more than others, but they can be dangerously convincing, especially hype Rolexes. You often don't need to examine the movement but you need to research that model's flaws, nobody can tell on wrist with the really good ones.

But as Scarecrow Boat says, they all fall apart at the movement. All reps fail and good luck getting them serviced with a fake movement. I imagine the exterior facade would fall apart under a loupe as well.
FIFY
 
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Good luck with that. No watch maker that respects themselves, their work, or this hobby will ever accept a fake.


No matter what term you try to describe them as, it’s fake. Replica = Fake. Clone, Super Clone, and 1:1 = Fake.

If you want to see a little behind the scenes of a fake, look at this post I made a little while back:
I get where you're coming from, I do.

But for a lot of people, good enough to fool most people even up close is going to convince them to go with the replica over the real thing (especially in recent times when you couldn't buy one for retail).

And my point about the service was that you just wouldn't bother.

When comparing quality though, did you look at the video I posted?
 
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Second, replicas are sometimes "upgraded" with real parts. Someone posted this on another forum recently...first time I've seen anything like this. Buyer beware...
I have seen several projects like this on the fake forum. It’s pretty scary and sad seeing what some people are doing to achieve as close to “Gen” as possible without buying “Gen”. This example is a whole other level as the OP stated the owner spent more building it than they would have if they just bought the real thing.

did you look at the video I posted?
No, I don’t need to watch another YouTuber talk about and comparing the best fake Rolex.
 
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I have seen several projects like this on the fake forum. It’s pretty scary and sad seeing what some people are doing to achieve as close to “Gen” as possible without buying “Gen”. This example is a whole other level as the OP stated the owner spent more building it than they would have if they just bought the real thing.


No, I don’t need to watch another YouTuber talk about and comparing the best fake Rolex.
No worries. Your statement that they are all of terrible quality meshes perfectly with your refusal to take a few moments looking at a good quality example.

I appreciate your high level of integrity on this topic.
 
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Super clones is maybe the term you're looking for. Or just broadly they're called replicas, fake generally is reserved for the street side quartz abominations in that scene. Though, yes, obviously they're all fake.

There is also frankens where it's part replica part real, like putting a real dial in a fake watch to try to resolve some of the flaws and make it harder to spot. All reps have tells, some more than others, but they can be dangerously convincing, especially hype Rolexes. You often don't need to examine the movement but you need to research that model's flaws, nobody can tell on wrist with the really good ones.

But as Scarecrow Boat says, they all fall apart at the movement. All reps fail and good luck getting them serviced with a fake movement. I imagine the exterior facade would fall apart under a loupe as well.
A super clone is a fake. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to normalize them into acceptance.