Omega SM300 w/ Mesh Bracelet Built with Replacement Parts & Purchased on Chrono24

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Al, is your definition of NOS specific to thee watchco type builds or broadly?

I've always understood the term older OEM parts that were not used, installed, this also applies to vintage car parts.

Doesn't matter if you are referring to watch parts or car parts. Unless they are in fact "old" they are not "new old stock" in my view.
 
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Doesn't matter if you are referring to watch parts or car parts. Unless they are in fact "old" they are not "new old stock" in my view.

Thanks for the clarifications, sounds like we’re saying the same thing.
 
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The bezel on my watch was installed by a watchmaker in the UK. It’s a custom build with a period correct Omega movement and new Omega service parts.
Yes, sir, but when was it done?
 
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Greetings Al,

First, let me thank you, and others, for clearing up the NOS vs Replacement. I know the difference and didn’t mean to muck up this thread by crossing up their meaning or importance to the original question.

Thank you for posting those! That font is the same font on my bezel and the straight crown guards are the same as mine as well. Moreover, the “A” is pointed! So, based on your photos and comparing them with mine, I would say my watch has genuine Omega service parts installed.

In your opinion, which I greatly respect sir, based on the photos I posted above and comparing them to the newer case you photographed, would you agree with me and say you think my watch is legitimate?

Again, I know it’s just an opinion and I would never hold it against you if it was wrong but your opinion would mean a great deal to me and would likely allow me to comfortably keep the watch. Please let me know, sir.

No worries on the NOS - again this term was used heavily by Watchco, and others have picked up on the terminology, and are using it in an incorrect way, either as a marketing tool, because they don't understand what it means, or because they have heard others use it so much regarding these it's almost autoamtic.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't consider a service case made last year to be "old" in any way...😀

If you had asked me the questions about your case earlier last year, before I bought this latest case, I would have said I wasn't sure. But now I don't see anything wrong with your watch.

When Omega is sending these parts out through their distribution channels, the channel gets stuffed with stock. So even if Omega has been making cases that look like this for a while, it apparently took some time for the "old" style that I show above from 2016 to get used up in my specific distribution channel, and for the "new" design to make it to me on my last order. This is why I held off saying anything about the crown guard shape until I saw a newer made case come to me, and now it has.

Cheers, Al
 
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If it is indeed genuine, Omega aren't doing the greatest of jobs. Both the font choice and execution -- not a fan.

They should go back to the flat 3 variations so the world could be a little more attractive.


 
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Greetings Al,

Thank you for posting those! That font is the same font on my bezel
Is it? The "50" on your watch appears different to me, much thinner than any of the others. Just another variation, I suspect.

Cheers, Chris
 
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Thank you Al, and thank you everyone else who has chimed in. Again, I have to say, those photos you posted Al certainly put my mind at ease. I was furious when I first opened the watch last evening.

The only thing that still looks a little different is the thinkness of the font on yours versus mine. However, the way the bottom of the “5” in 50 ends the same way as depicted on yours. However, mine still looks thinner but everything else matches up. I’m much more comfortable keeping the watch!! It’s what I’ve been looking for, for quite some time. They are not easy to fine anymore and the mesh bracket was icing on the cake.

Again, I feel much better about keeping the watch I was hoping I purchased.
 
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Is it? The "50" on your watch appears different to me, much thinner than any of the others. Just another variation, I suspect.

Cheers, Chris
Hi Chris,

No, you are right. I also agree, while the font style is same, the thickness is slightly off. However, if you notice, the way the “5” in 50 sweeps down and ends its almost identical to the one Al posted. It was that style of the 5 that what bothered me immensely and was what I could not find a single photograph of online anywhere. Like I previously stated, I spent 2 hours looking at bezel photographs to find one comparing to mine. While his may be slightly thinner, it’s style is identical.

Also, with the other issues being resolved, the pointed “A”, the case back protective film, the straight crown guards, I feel way better about the watch and intent to keep it.
 
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The "5" is all good. I think the way photos are taken can slightly distort the look, so I took another with the new case and the photo of your watch on the screen, which should put this one to bed finally....I hope...

 
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I’m surprised Omega switched to a pointed A instead of the flat A on the case back. That was still a good tell for the fakes!
 
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The "5" is all good. I think the way photos are taken can slightly distort the look, so I took another with the new case and the photo of your watch on the screen, which should put this one to bed finally....I hope...


Oh, wow! They look identical when you look at your photo comparing them. Again, I’m good with respect to the replacement parts they used. The only thing left for me is the movement and whether it was serviced or not and how accurate it runs, which is a whole other issue for another thread.

I appreciate everyone responses and hopefully this thread will get archived for anyone with future concerns about the variations of the currently Omega SM300 replacement service parts. With these new changes to the case, case back, and bezel, virtually every website out there that chronicles the changes/evolution of the service parts would categorize this watch as fake so I hope others can learn from this thread. Great work everyone, the Omega Forum never lets me down!
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These are images I've just taken of a case I purchased right from Omega recently. This case was made in the 25th week of 2019, so just a few months ago. You can see the date code on the package
Interesting that they are still making them to this day. I know watchco was making other builds but I believe those stopped a while ago. Do they make other cases from that era (discontinued, Speedmaster doesn’t count), could one also order a new 60s Constellation case, for example?
 
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Interesting that they are still making them to this day. I know watchco was making other builds but I believe those stopped a while ago. Do they make other cases from that era (discontinued, Speedmaster doesn’t count), could one also order a new 60s Constellation case, for example?

Some cases are available, but most not. I really don't know why Omega has carried on making this case for so long after the watch was discontinued.
 
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Some cases are available, but most not. I really don't know why Omega has carried on making this case for so long after the watch was discontinued.
Economics? Many (most?) replacement vintage cases sold maybe in the 10s per year but thanks to Watchco etc the SM300 case sold maybe on the 100s or thousands pa. It would make sense therefore to continue re-manufacturing those that wiped their faces, so to speak. If Omega seriously wanted to kill the Watchco SM300 stone dead, ceasing supply of the repro case 5-10 years ago would have been a good solution.
 
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Economics?

It's a theory, sure - I could post mine also. But to be clear, I was saying that I have no idea why they actually keep doing this.
 
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It's a theory, sure - I could post mine also. But to be clear, I was saying that I have no idea why they actually keep doing this.
I would be very interested to hear yours since it is doubtless better informed than mine but will quite understand if you choose not to do so 😀
 
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I would be very interested to hear yours since it is doubtless better informed than mine but will quite understand if you choose not to do so 😀

I don't see the point it if personally. And quite honestly, I don't really care why they still keep making this case.

By the way, as I've stated many times, Omega has no problem with conversion of watches during service. They do have a problem with the way Watchco was doing this (selling completed watches, because that is "competing" with Omega), but changing one watch to another is perfectly acceptable. They would have no reason to stop making the case, when all they had to do was cut Watchco off, which they eventually did.
 
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Hi

There is (at least) one more detail which is different between the two casebacks. Look at the "rings" on the sadle. The "band/ strap" to the back has four rings on one og the casebacks, but only there in the other. And they appear to have different sizes.

I'm not claming that one is fake, just pinpointing differences
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Hi

There is (at least) one more detail which is different between the two casebacks. Look at the "rings" on the sadle. The "band/ strap" to the back has four rings, but on the servicepart from Omega, there are only the rings. And they appear to have different sizes.

I'm not claming that one is fake, just pinpointing differences

Read this entire thread again...look at the photos of the 2019 case I posted.