Omega Seamaster 30 Linen Dial

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Hello all

Recently started loving the Seamaster 30 with linen dial and will likely be grabbing one in the future. I see some variation in the model, whether it be text style of the "S" in seamaster or the general look of the dial. So I guess my question is this: Is it possible to do a "redial" on a linen textured dial? If so, how to determine if it is indeed the original dial. And lastly, I see a few different variations of hands on this model which I know there is certainly some variation among the seamaster in this regard.. so what is original?

I'd love to see some pics from anyone who has a nice example of an original Seamaster 30 Linen dial and hear any helpful advice. I am including a pic so tell me if this one is original!
 
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Recently started loving the Seamaster 30 with linen dial and will likely be grabbing one in the future.
Hello, and welcome to the forum!

The Seamaster 30 was a popular variant in the Seamaster line during the early 1960s. It is certainly possible to redial a linen dial, so my suggestion to you is to carefully study known good dials and compare them with watches you are interested in. You'll soon be able to discern redial flaws. A few tips and techniques are given here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

Before buying, I heartily recommend you take the time to educate yourself on the model. Learn about the different variants. That's half the fun of collecting vintage watches anyway 😀

There are lots of threads on this forum about that model, with and without linen dials. Find them all, and read the comments and study the pictures. Reach out to forum members who own one and ask for advice.

To help you get started, here are a few threads that might interest you:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-30.101420/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/for-sale-beautiful-omega-seamaster-30-from-1962.85689/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/1962-omega-seamaster-30-caliber-269-authenticity.101783/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hi-...-135-007-63-omega-seamaster-30-cal-286.88482/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-30-1962-first-time-buyer-advice.89848/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-30-bor-strap-help.95200/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/bracelet-omega-seamaster-30.98923/

Before you buy anything, post pictures of your prospective purchase in the forum and ask for advice. Don't forget to budget in some money to get your watch serviced post-purchase.
 
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Hello, and welcome to the forum!

The Seamaster 30 was a popular variant in the Seamaster line during the early 1960s. It is certainly possible to redial a linen dial, so my suggestion to you is to carefully study known good dials and compare them with watches you are interested in. You'll soon be able to discern redial flaws. A few tips and techniques are given here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

Before buying, I heartily recommend you take the time to educate yourself on the model. Learn about the different variants. That's half the fun of collecting vintage watches anyway 😀

There are lots of threads on this forum about that model, with and without linen dials. Find them all, and read the comments and study the pictures. Reach out to forum members who own one and ask for advice.

To help you get started, here are a few threads that might interest you:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-seamaster-30.101420/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/for-sale-beautiful-omega-seamaster-30-from-1962.85689/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/1962-omega-seamaster-30-caliber-269-authenticity.101783/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hi-...-135-007-63-omega-seamaster-30-cal-286.88482/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-30-1962-first-time-buyer-advice.89848/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-30-bor-strap-help.95200/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/bracelet-omega-seamaster-30.98923/

Before you buy anything, post pictures of your prospective purchase in the forum and ask for advice. Don't forget to budget in some money to get your watch serviced post-purchase.
What he said
And welcome to the forum
 
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So I guess my question is this: Is it possible to do a "redial" on a linen textured dial?

A good redialer can do nearly anything.

Tom
 
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Thanks Vitezi and JwR!

I have read the how to fish thread before, very straightforward but good to review from time to time so as to not forget the basics. I will keep the other links to reference during my search. It's hard for me to imagine someone could redial a textured dial like this!

One thing I always ask myself when trying to figure out if a watch is a redial: Is the condition of the dial too good to be true for a 60 year old watch? Even the best kept examples will have often times have some sign of aging and honestly, I think it does give more depth and character to the piece. I know some people say "patina" is a positive way to describe damage and while it does literally represent some change or deterioration, I generally view it positively (to an extent of course).

What do you guys think, would you rather have a dial with moderate signs of wear that you know is original (and adds something unique) or pristine condition?
 
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...Just to add one last thing for conversation...

I almost always buy a watch I intend on wearing but as I start looking at more expensive watches I have been thinking... I hear people say that watch is not in "collector condition". What does that mean exactly? I can understand it is all original and not tampered with but at what point does a small scratch or a bit of polish take a piece from "collector" to just great or good condition? In all honesty, for online watch sales I see that the price a certain model of watch will fetch is only slightly higher as the condition goes from great/excellent to near mint or mint.

And lastly a more philosophical question... Personal admiration and satisfaction aside, what do you guys feel is the tangible value of having a mint condition piece that you never wear and never intend to sell? I see the literal value as pretty much imaginary unless you actually sell it.
 
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Me, personally, if I can't wear it, I don't want to own it. Now, my dad's watch is somewhat hard to read because of dial deterioration, so I won't wear it except perhaps on his birthday, but I'll keep it. But I have others that don't excite me and I want to sell them eventually.

Tom