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Rman
·Seeing as y’all got it covered, with hardly any pics...
The 2996👍
Had a good ol time playing with the camera a few weeks back at the saloon.
Omega Ranchero: REALISTIC value
The 2996👍
Had a good ol time playing with the camera a few weeks back at the saloon.
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micampe
·@ConElPueblo and @Rman, as a Ranchero fan boy your debate got me thinking.
I don’t think comparing the current monetary value of an Omega 2990 Ranchero and a Rolex 1016 Explorer is easy: one has the coronet, a bracelet, and arguably better water resistance, the other is rarer and comes in a much prettier white dial version 😉, so I’ll skip that part of the debate.
But then which Omega model is really comparable to the Explorer? I can’t really think of one that checks the same boxes. I think Omega was more into the sporty-dress styles, even the myriad of non-diver Seamasters were always more casual than sport, they compare to the non-Explorer references of the time.
In my recent trip I brought with me my chunky lug Seamaster, which I think is in the same segment as the “dressier” non-Explorer Oyster references. It did a tremendous job and was never out of place, but it does feel a little more precious than a “basic” Explorer, exactly like those other Oyster references. It looks more like a city guy on casual hike than an explorer (lower case E). Even the rare black dialed ones always had applied markers and more “refined” dials.
I think the 2914 Railmaster is the closest Omega came to the 1016 Explorer, minus the automatic movement.
But, of the watches I own I think the closest, in spirit, to the Explorer is actually this one:
I don’t think comparing the current monetary value of an Omega 2990 Ranchero and a Rolex 1016 Explorer is easy: one has the coronet, a bracelet, and arguably better water resistance, the other is rarer and comes in a much prettier white dial version 😉, so I’ll skip that part of the debate.
But then which Omega model is really comparable to the Explorer? I can’t really think of one that checks the same boxes. I think Omega was more into the sporty-dress styles, even the myriad of non-diver Seamasters were always more casual than sport, they compare to the non-Explorer references of the time.
In my recent trip I brought with me my chunky lug Seamaster, which I think is in the same segment as the “dressier” non-Explorer Oyster references. It did a tremendous job and was never out of place, but it does feel a little more precious than a “basic” Explorer, exactly like those other Oyster references. It looks more like a city guy on casual hike than an explorer (lower case E). Even the rare black dialed ones always had applied markers and more “refined” dials.
I think the 2914 Railmaster is the closest Omega came to the 1016 Explorer, minus the automatic movement.
But, of the watches I own I think the closest, in spirit, to the Explorer is actually this one:
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DIV
·@ConElPueblo and @Rman, as a Ranchero fan boy your debate got me thinking.
I don’t think comparing the current monetary value of an Omega 2990 Ranchero and a Rolex 1016 Explorer is easy: one has the coronet, a bracelet, and arguably better water resistance, the other is rarer and comes in a much prettier white dial version 😉, so I’ll skip that part of the debate.
But then which Omega model is really comparable to the Explorer? I can’t really think of one that checks the same boxes. I think Omega was more into the sporty-dress styles, even the myriad of non-diver Seamasters were always more casual than sport, they compare to the non-Explorer references of the time.
In my recent trip I brought with me my chunky lug Seamaster, which I think is in the same segment as the “dressier” non-Explorer Oyster references. It did a tremendous job and was never out of place, but it does feel a little more precious than a “basic” Explorer, exactly like those other Oyster references. It looks more like a city guy on casual hike than an explorer (lower case E). Even the rare black dialed ones always had applied markers and more “refined” dials.
I think the 2914 Railmaster is the closest Omega came to the 1016 Explorer, minus the automatic movement.
But, of the watches I own I think the closest, in spirit, to the Explorer is actually this one:
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ConElPueblo
·@ConElPueblo and @Rman, as a Ranchero fan boy your debate got me thinking.
I don’t think comparing the current monetary value of an Omega 2990 Ranchero and a Rolex 1016 Explorer is easy: one has the coronet, a bracelet, and arguably better water resistance, the other is rarer and comes in a much prettier white dial version 😉, so I’ll skip that part of the debate.
But then which Omega model is really comparable to the Explorer? I can’t really think of one that checks the same boxes. I think Omega was more into the sporty-dress styles, even the myriad of non-diver Seamasters were always more casual than sport, they compare to the non-Explorer references of the time.
I have had the same thoughts and came to pretty much the same conclusion; that there wasn't a real Rolex contender in the Omega line-up of those days. @styggpyggeno1 posted a great thread years ago: https://omegaforums.net/threads/rolex-too-bling.3467/ which really didn't bring too many contenders out in the open. In my modest opinion the best vintage watch too compare against the Rolex would be a Certina DS. It doesn't have those chronometer chops, but on a number of other points it is ahead.
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tdn-dk
·Loving the discussion folks. Seeing as y’all got it covered, with hardly any pics, here’s one
I enjoy using my Ranchero's, love the dials and hands. Dont worry much about value since I am not selling, but of course it nice to know they have some value 😀
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Vintagewtchzilla
·I have had the same thoughts and came to pretty much the same conclusion; that there wasn't a real Rolex contender in the Omega line-up of those days. @styggpyggeno1 posted a great thread years ago: https://omegaforums.net/threads/rolex-too-bling.3467/ which really didn't bring too many contenders out in the open. In my modest opinion the best vintage watch too compare against the Rolex would be a Certina DS. It doesn't have those chronometer chops, but on a number of other points it is ahead.
why sould one compare with the R brand ? the ranchero was the low price entry model, back in the days
the railmaster is way more than an explorer if you see the specs and the engeneering behind.
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bloomy
·And it is back up for sale w/ 2 days left @ $4050
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DIV
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wkimmd
·I'm just going to post my 1016 since apparently I am the ONLY one without a Ranchero 🙁
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Johnjaw1
·Hello all new to this and wondering how good of a deal is this . I have agreed to purchase this as a retirement present for someone very close and wondering is it genuine and also a good investment for them
https://vintagewatchplace.com/omega-seamaster-ranchero-very-rare-pk-2990-1/
https://vintagewatchplace.com/omega-seamaster-ranchero-very-rare-pk-2990-1/
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Badwolf
·Hello all new to this and wondering how good of a deal is this . I have agreed to purchase this as a retirement present for someone very close and wondering is it genuine and also a good investment for them
https://vintagewatchplace.com/omega-seamaster-ranchero-very-rare-pk-2990-1/
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoA different Ranchero in NOS condition with the original strap, buckle, box and hangtag:
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zrleopold
·Hello all new to this and wondering how good of a deal is this . I have agreed to purchase this as a retirement present for someone very close and wondering is it genuine and also a good investment for them
https://vintagewatchplace.com/omega-seamaster-ranchero-very-rare-pk-2990-1/
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Cuttysark
·Loving the discussion folks. Seeing as y’all got it covered, with hardly any pics, here’s one
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Cuttysark
·SIIIIIII 😀
Not rare and beautful like yours, but for my humble wrist is ok😀
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janice&fred
·I don’t understand how you can compare a 1st generation, hand wound, 1958 trilogy era Broad Arrow hands, radium lumed Ranchero with an automatic, 4th Generation TT SM300 165.024 from the mid 1960s. That being said, I think the value of these two watches, in similar condition, is approximately equal.
this collecting vintage stuff is all about emotion, and for me the ranchero is a much cooler sounding name than seamaster or explorer any day. 😀
