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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Who was the UK repairer you recommended?
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Fair enough. I've not heard of him but it always helps to take note of recommendations. Isle of where btw?
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Danwales
·Last month Michael reattached the seconds hand on a sub dial Wittnauer for £5 plus p&p for my brother.
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·Just to be clear, I wasn't engaging in the main argument in this thread, just pointing out that stickies are nearly universally ineffective at communicating to new members.
However since you brought me into that side of this discussion, I'll give my view. Yes, sometimes people here are too short with new members, but we are all human and someone may be having a bad day. Yes, maybe they shouldn't reply, but again we are all human.
My feeling is in general people who are complaining sometimes come across as very entitled in their requests (no please or thank you, no introduction, just "tell me about this"), and when they get an answer that might be a bit snippy, they often over react. I think some need to keep in mind that what you see publicly on the forum is only part of what people do in answering requests from random people who show up here on the forum. I know there are many here including myself who are constantly getting these same requests by PM, often from people who have zero posts on the forum so are not contributors at all. Again they are often so direct to be considered rude, and I have often experienced that when I answer I never even get response or a simple thank you.
People sometimes treat this place like "Omega-Google" expecting answers to magically pop up and not understanding that someone has to take time out of their day to actually answer them.
There's fault on both sides here...but again we are all human.
I just used your comment to make a point about other members, it was not about you personally. You are always extremely courteous and as a professional watchmaker you offer invaluable advice to many members. Indeed, there is plenty of advice being given by PMs and I have also been a recipient of that. I am sure veteran members realize easier who are the lurkers or new collectors with a great passion and allocate their time accordingly. Actually, it would be less time consuming to get Ebay to ban or mark all the redials etc than actually respond to and analyze every request posted here!
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Ericthegreek
·@watchyouwant was spot on really. It is one of the easiest watches to research on the internet and all the info was to hand. To ask others opinions without having formed your own and then expressed your concerns (or not) is very easily seen as lazy. Just saying "I like it" does not count as a valid opinion when asking for others in this scenario. I think it would be a widely held expectation in a forum such as this that if you were genuinely interested in the watch that you would enjoy the research and learning the details that make it an interesting watch, particularly as it's an issued military watch whose value is very much based in it's history.
@Ericthegreek :
Be aware that the minute hand is wrong. It is short and it should have a solid metal tip like the hour hand.
So, though it is a likable watch as you wrote in your OP and all your critics seem to agree with, IMO you shouldn't pay full price for it.
Great spot. Thanks, I can see that now.
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Franco
·You are right, the minute hand is different, and in the fat-arrow is longer than the minute rail (image from an OF post)
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·For people trying to resolve their anxieties, self-esteem, and personal issues here.
I can offer some discount therapy that may be more effective than arguing with strangers on the internet 😜
Currently, I'm half-listening to some training on helping clients refrain from bad behaviours that make you feel worse, it feels rather appropriate to all this.
One particular extract says to ask clients:
"What are the consequences of engaging in this behaviour?",
"how do you feel after doing it?" and
"what do you end up doing/thinking next because of it?"
Is it worth it?
I can offer some discount therapy that may be more effective than arguing with strangers on the internet 😜
Currently, I'm half-listening to some training on helping clients refrain from bad behaviours that make you feel worse, it feels rather appropriate to all this.
One particular extract says to ask clients:
"What are the consequences of engaging in this behaviour?",
"how do you feel after doing it?" and
"what do you end up doing/thinking next because of it?"
Is it worth it?
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Ericthegreek
·For those interested in the watch, it sold at auction for just shy of £2000.
Too rich for me sadly, but I still like it 😀
Too rich for me sadly, but I still like it 😀
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·For those interested in the watch, it sold at auction for just shy of £2000.
Too rich for me sadly, but I still like it 😀
I pulled mine out to say hello!
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Ericthegreek
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She is a bute, lucky you !!
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·Evening all,
I've seen this watch for sale. Listed as Ref 2771-1 Cal. 283. circa 1953
I like it, but just wondered what the experts thought of it and what I should be paying for it.
Thanks
So, you had already bought it at the time you posted your question ? Then I guess you had your research done before you bought it ? Does not matter now. Might have changed the 76 replies .....
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·Again, poor research. You've crossed your threads
@ConElPueblo was referring to another watch, which I had bought and definately should not have.
This 2771-1 post was made before purchase in the hope avoiding similar error of judgement.
@ConElPueblo was referring to another watch, which I had bought and definately should not have.
This 2771-1 post was made before purchase in the hope avoiding similar error of judgement.
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ConElPueblo
·Incorrect. Watch was bought before posting.
Always best to get facts straight before character assassination attempts.
Anyway, update on that dissasterous entrance into this world coming soon....hopefully.
Happy to hear that it could be working out for you 👍
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size11s
·Eric, it is very unfortunate that you feel that you have been treated so badly, if only we could all turn the clock back! I would be interested though in the reasons why you consider "is very easily seen as lazy" in this context could be considered "character assassination", as you seem to keep quoting it as such. I would consider that rather an over reaction, personally.
As an aside it would appear that the price bracket that I offered you for the watch was in the right ball park, even with the wrong minute hand, so you are welcome for that.....but then you knew the price range already from your research.
As an aside it would appear that the price bracket that I offered you for the watch was in the right ball park, even with the wrong minute hand, so you are welcome for that.....but then you knew the price range already from your research.
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Ericthegreek
·It was in the right ballpark for sure. Although I wasn’t comfortable, after previous experiences, pushing up to that level on a piece that probably needed attention to bring it back closer to original. I do wonder if any of our friends on this chat got involved in the auction.
Regarding gratitude, I believe that I did actually thank and express my general appreciation to everyone who posted comments that were directly related to the watch in question on more than one occasion. Although I see now that I did not thank you personally for your input. As you were one of the few that did contribute positively, I’d have to apologise for that. No problem.
However, you cannot deny that the vast majority of the responses on this thread had nothing to do with vintage watches. Which is a waste of everyone's time and energy and you don’t have to be an expert to realise that.
Perhaps there should be a separate thread created for everyone to air the differences and try to close the apparent divide between the haves and have nots in terms of intellectual property on this subject. Maybe @Awetaylor can be the chairperson?
Regarding gratitude, I believe that I did actually thank and express my general appreciation to everyone who posted comments that were directly related to the watch in question on more than one occasion. Although I see now that I did not thank you personally for your input. As you were one of the few that did contribute positively, I’d have to apologise for that. No problem.
However, you cannot deny that the vast majority of the responses on this thread had nothing to do with vintage watches. Which is a waste of everyone's time and energy and you don’t have to be an expert to realise that.
Perhaps there should be a separate thread created for everyone to air the differences and try to close the apparent divide between the haves and have nots in terms of intellectual property on this subject. Maybe @Awetaylor can be the chairperson?
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size11s
·OK, so we agree that there is no "character assassination" in my post that you quoted then.
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·It was in the right ballpark for sure. Although I wasn’t comfortable, after previous experiences, pushing up to that level on a piece that probably needed attention to bring it back closer to original. I do wonder if any of our friends on this chat got involved in the auction.
Regarding gratitude, I believe that I did actually thank and express my general appreciation to everyone who posted comments that were directly related to the watch in question on more than one occasion. Although I see now that I did not thank you personally for your input. As you were one of the few that did contribute positively, I’d have to apologise for that. No problem.
However, you cannot deny that the vast majority of the responses on this thread had nothing to do with vintage watches. Which is a waste of everyone's time and energy and you don’t have to be an expert to realise that.
Perhaps there should be a separate thread created for everyone to air the differences and try to close the apparent divide between the haves and have nots in terms of intellectual property on this subject. Maybe @Awetaylor can be the chairperson?
This is still a vintage watch forum. If you need to explain yourself , your intellectual properties and your grievances , there is the Open forum. Start it there. and I do not think, we need a chair person for your stuff. Just blend in.
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