Omega Military Watch

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Evening all,
I've seen this watch for sale. Listed as Ref 2771-1 Cal. 283. circa 1953
I like it, but just wondered what the experts thought of it and what I should be paying for it.
Thanks



 
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Could do with seeing the outer case back but it looks quite a nice example, £2k - £2.4k, I would say.
 
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Why do you say redial? I think is the MOD “fat arrow dial”. These are the 1953 RAF issued navigation watches. They all were produced with radium, with the so- called thin arrow. But in 1956-1957 the RAF had to have all 5000 of them redialled by their own facility in Mounfichet and a redialled of the time, with tritium. The arrow was thicker, and the whole dial was somewhat imprecise.


 
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Why do you say redial? I think is the MOD “fat arrow dial”. These are the 1953 RAF issued navigation watches. They all were produced with radium, with the so- called thin arrow. But in 1956-1957 the RAF had to have all 5000 of them redialled by their own facility in Mounfichet and a redialled of the time, with tritium. The arrow was thicker, and the whole dial was somewhat imprecise.


I had no idea, but to each his own.
 
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Evening all,
I've seen this watch for sale. Listed as Ref 2771-1 Cal. 283. circa 1953
I like it, but just wondered what the experts thought of it and what I should be paying for it.
Thanks




So...you do not even bother to learn ? Type omega 2777-1 into Google, read, learn, make your own conclusion, go to eBay sold items and chrono24 and learn the value, draw your own summary, come here for answers and learn on the way ? No? Register a few days ago to use a collector's forum for quick evaluation? Possibly demand answers within 60 minutes because the eBay auction ends ? This is a forum for research, learning, presenting your own journey with conclusions. Not: I want it. And I want it now ! And it does not help, if another new member answers: I think, it is a redial.....without more depths to it. Members here have a ton of expertise and research , that is not matched by expensive specialists of expensive auction houses. Adjust your journey here accordingly and become one of them. Not the quick fix. The " what is it worth " demands . It's worth, what you are willing to pay for it. So, re phrase. Present your case.
 
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And it does not help, if another new member answers: I think, it is a redial.....without more depths to it.

I was technically correct and that is more than you can say for most other members with two months experience at collecting vintage. Another time I will wait for the experts to chime in, sorry for crashing your party. Even if was mistaken, this is valuable experience and I do not see the point for your displeasure.
 
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I was technically correct ..... Even if was mistaken, this is valuable experience and I do not see the point for your displeasure.

@watchyouwant , Achim, is stressing education and advancement of the hobby here at OF. We need to step away from being a clearing house or valuation service doing the homework assignments of others and stick to our roots as a collector's forum.

@cineaste , he isn't disputing any comments but only points out that calling a redial without explanation doesn't advance education or really benefit the individual. You certainly did nothing wrong stating your opinion but to be truly a valuable experience, give us your thoughts and observations leading to your conclusion.
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Come on people. Seriously !!!!!
There's absolutely no need for the personal stuff. If you're not willing to share your knowledge, talk about the watch and have an open minded approach to this, then why bother.
It's not just about slagging people when they've paid too much for a dud.
@watchyouwant. Do you know anything about this watch? If not, don't post. This isn't a forum for your petty prejudices. How do you even know I've not done any research. I've posted here for opinions about the watch. Not about me as a person. Also, if you'd bothered to read the post properly I ask "what should I be paying for it?" and not "what is it worth?".
Honestly, some of you need to get over yourselves, you're making it sound like a clised shop and giving collectors a bad name.
I exclude Franco from the above observations, Thanks for the really informative post, I had no idea these watches had been recalled by the factory.
I've also got no problem with cineaste's post. At least they're expressing an opinion on the watch.
 
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Well you’ve been given a ballpark figure.

it’s a desirable watch. Just search Omega 53 fat arrow and you’ll find many examples and sold prices.
 
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Come on people. Seriously !!!!!
There's absolutely no need for the personal stuff. If you're not willing to share your knowledge, talk about the watch and have an open minded approach to this, then why bother.
It's not just about slagging people when they've paid too much for a dud.
@watchyouwant. Do you know anything about this watch? If not, don't post. This isn't a forum for your petty prejudices. How do you even know I've not done any research. I've posted here for opinions about the watch. Not about me as a person. Also, if you'd bothered to read the post properly I ask "what should I be paying for it?" and not "what is it worth?".
Honestly, some of you need to get over yourselves, you're making it sound like a clised shop and giving collectors a bad name.
I exclude Franco from the above observations, Thanks for the really informative post, I had no idea these watches had been recalled by the factory.
I've also got no problem with cineaste's post. At least they're expressing an opinion on the watch.

Eric, you are right. I have no idea, what I'm talking about regarding the Omega 1953. In the last 30 years I only bought and sold over 250 of these; in every shape, form, dial variant and every issue country. and restored for collectors many more. That implies, having them in my hands. Study them. Not looking at pictures. Researched in the 1990 with the Omega museum some peculiar variants for Asien countries.... But you are right. This is a deeply philosophical question, you raise. What do we really know about life......Or things. Or Life.
 
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Eric, you are right. I have no idea, what I'm talking about regarding the Omega 1953. In the last 30 years I only bought and sold over 250 of these; in every shape, form, dial variant and every issue country. and restored for collectors many more. That implies, having them in my hands. Study them. Not looking at pictures. Researched in the 1990 with the Omega museum some peculiar variants for Asien countries.... But you are right. This is a deeply philosophical question, you raise. What do we really know about life......Or things. Or Life.
Fantastic, you sound like the exact person I'm reaching out to. What's your opinion on the watch?
Again, please read the post properly. I didn't say you don't know what your talking about. I simply commented on the fact that you've not talked about the watch at all.
 
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Here's the case back Marco, if it helps.
Also, but what are the thoughts on the bracelet. Is it aftermarket or of the period. Pretty much everything I've looked at has a Nato style.
 
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Here's the case back Marco, if it helps.
Also, but what are the thoughts on the bracelet. Is it aftermarket or of the period. Pretty much everything I've looked at has a Nato style.

i think you forgot to say please.

the watch has fixed bars so yes a nato style strap would be correct though this predates the NATO strap. The bracelet on it is known as a Bonklip which was used by some servicemen as well.

the watch looks good and correct. Movement looks clean. As said it’s a desirable piece and the price mentioned earlier is reasonable.
 
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Bracelet is after market from the period and would have been highly unlikely to have been fitted to an issue watch.

As to what to pay.

If I see a watch that really attracts me, and the price is reasonable or even above current expectations I just buy it.

For the sake of a few dinners out to cover the "above market", why miss the chance?

Just stay at home and have cup noodles for dinner for a few nights.

Regrets should be reserved for meals you never got to eat, not watches you missed out on.
 
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i think you forgot to say please.

the watch has fixed bars so yes a nato style strap would be correct though this predates the NATO strap. The bracelet on it is known as a Bonklip which was used by some servicemen as well.

the watch looks good and correct. Movement looks clean. As said it’s a desirable piece and the price mentioned earlier is reasonable.

It's not a Bonklip, it's a Fix-O-Flex. Different animal.
 
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It's not a Bonklip, it's a Fix-O-Flex. Different animal.

yeah I just meant those sort of bracelets can fall into that misused catchall occasionally.

Didn’t study the back branding. That’s the bamboo pattern? A real hair grabber.
 
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i think you forgot to say please.

the watch has fixed bars so yes a nato style strap would be correct though this predates the NATO strap. The bracelet on it is known as a Bonklip which was used by some servicemen as well.

the watch looks good and correct. Movement looks clean. As said it’s a desirable piece and the price mentioned earlier is reasonable.
Hey, sorry. I forgot my manners. 🙁
Thanks for the info guys.
Wasn't the Bonklip also a type of after market addition at the time? Or did these watches come issued with them?
 
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yeah I just meant those sort of bracelets can fall into that misused catchall occasionally.

Didn’t study the back branding. That’s the bamboo pattern? A real hair grabber.

Had it been a Bonklip I'd have been all over it 😁.