Omega closing down archives extract service??

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Not to disagree with you (although I disagree that it has no value), but it isn't just the EoA. It wouldn't matter how detailed their database was or if they examined the watch in person, there is no system that could provide 100% certainty of authenticity. Even if the manufacturer confirmed that every single part of the watch was the same part that was on the watch when it left the factory, the moment that watch leaves the authenticators, it is vulnerable to manipulation.

This argument that the EoA is valuable or not valuable is kind of a moot point. There is NO system that will be absolutely reliable. It's possible that by arguing that the EoA has no value, we might be suggesting that a different system would provide that missing assurance. Likewise, by arguing that the EoA has some value, we aren't saying it provides assurance of authenticity. There is some value in knowing that a reference that was only sold in Japan has an extract that says it was originally sold in Italy. That gives me assurance that this watch is inauthentic. If it says it was sold in Japan as expected, that doesn't mean it's autentic, but it doesn't prove that it's not. There's some value in that imho.

The best and most reliable system is the reliability of the seller and the knowledge of the buyer.

That's what I'm saying. The information - a piece of paper with the limited information that they have access to - became coveted and gained value itself. Buyers and sellers began to look at it as proof of something rather than just casual information about a specific serial number. The watch only sold in Japan watch is a good example. I could give you a piece of paper that says my watch was originally delivered to Japan. I could even gin up a good looking EoA sheet. It's not confirmation of authenticity (which you never said it was, either), nor does it prove anything. It never has and I don't think Omega or the others really intended it to. The reason why there is a business in bogus EoAs is because it's easy to do and the market sees/saw value in something that is literally worth nothing because none of it can be confirmed and it's open to manipulation. It's at best for personal use only.
 
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I looked into them a year or so ago and wanted to order one for my MK 4.5 then found out that in the US you couldn't just order it online so no big loss for me.
 
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I have one Omega that I would have enjoyed learning about its history. It's not a valuable model, just a 30T2 movement in a jumbo case with serial number that indicates a World War II production date. It would be gratifying to me to learn details about shipping date and original destination.

I hope Omega resumes the service.
 
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If the worry is the EoA's can be faked (yes, they can - digitally), then only trust the ones you actually apply for yourself, not those given to you by other sellers. Sure it's additional cost, but that's the price of a little peace of mind.

I've had potential watch sales stall because buyers (mostly dealers) would not buy certain vintage watches without an extract. Their placing some "value" in it implied they were valuable. Agreed they are not, in monetary terms, but for certain watches, they help or aid in the decision-making process of the watch being what it claims to be.

As an aside, Longines' Extract of the Archives are somewhat detailed and are free.

"On official Longines paper in English, indicates the information kept in the Longines archives about each timepiece. Please provide us with the serial number of the watch, high-quality photographs and your full postal address. This document does by no means certify the authenticity of the watch or its components. This service is free of charge."
 
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"On official Longines paper in English, indicates the information kept in the Longines archives about each timepiece. Please provide us with the serial number of the watch, high-quality photographs and your full postal address. This document does by no means certify the authenticity of the watch or its components. This service is free of charge."

Well, how hard is that?!
 
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"On official Longines paper in English, indicates the information kept in the Longines archives about each timepiece. Please provide us with the serial number of the watch, high-quality photographs and your full postal address. This document does by no means certify the authenticity of the watch or its components. This service is free of charge."

Well, how hard is that?!
It sure would be nice for Omega to do something like that, but it requires time and staff to do so….are they hiring?!
 
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Saw this post from a member who has been in contact with Omega Heritage department and thought others may like to hear that apparently the extract service is slated to return in 2024!
Thank you for the contacts Bassem, wecare.ch was also unable to pull up any information and suggested I would require an Extract which are currently unavailable but would return in a new format sometime in 2024.
 
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I hope the new format will be similar to longines setup 😀
FYI, the Longines extract service looks to be changing. Starting next year, they will be charging for an extract
https://omegaforums.net/threads/longines-changes-policy-for-extract-of-the-archives.165392/
Next year they are going to start charging for them. However, for vintage pieces that ho through their restoration service the extract will still be free.
 
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Saw this post from a member who has been in contact with Omega Heritage department and thought others may like to hear that apparently the extract service is slated to return in 2024!
Have a bit of an unofficial update. I was at the Menta / Davidoff Brothers watch pop-up event in LA this past weekend and one of the Davidoff brothers and I were talking about the extract services. They mentioned that from what they’ve been told, the extract services should be back around April.

Thought I’d share for any of the members who still would like to utilize the service, myself included, to learn a little more about the history of their watch.
 
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Have a bit of an unofficial update. I was at the Menta / Davidoff Brothers watch pop-up event in LA this past weekend and one of the Davidoff brothers and I were talking about the extract services. They mentioned that from what they’ve been told, the extract services should be back around April.

Thought I’d share for any of the members who still would like to utilize the service, myself included, to learn a little more about the history of their watch.

I suspect that if/when the service reopens it will be inundated with many trying to confirm that the watches they bought while in the dark are what they thought they bought - me included. 😁
 
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Also...........

I suspect that if/when the service reopens it will be inundated with many trying to confirm that the extracts they bought just before the dark are what they thought they bought - me included. 😁
 
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Anyone heard any news on the extract service? Is it still due to restart this year?
 
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Only with Omega Boutique/service you can applied for extract with opening watch and proofing reference of back case /calibre serial number and upload to request, my humble opinion .
Payment as is was ahead .
Bassem
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That's a shame. I used the service to obtain certificates for many of my old Omegas 20+ years ago.
 
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Probably just rumors going around now if nothing official has been announced...