Omega closing down archives extract service??

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Helle everyone

Saw a post about Omega closing down their archives extract service? Can anyone confirm?

If its true why on earth are they making that move? It seemes Omega is gradually neglecting their vintage past more and more with rising prices for parts and fewer dealers and now this. Wont this damage the vintage Omega market?
 
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If that’s true it’s sad news. The EotA might not have been what it used to be but it was still a welcome little extra information. At the very minimum, a help for those of us who were looking for a birth year watch.
 
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A way of pointing customers to get the certificate of authenticity instead?
 
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Yeap, I've seen this story on Davidoff's. Interesting, looking forward for more informations from those who knows.
 
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I really hope this turns out to be untrue.

I'm a bit spoiled because on the Longines side of things, an Extract from the Archives is free ... and sure, it doesn't offer that much information, but it does tell me whether movement and case originally belonged together, and when the watch was originally sold and where. This gives me a lot of context that I otherwise wouldn't have, and that is worth quite a lot to me. Knowing that, for example, my Longines was sold in 1974 in Romania, by a company that still exists and is still a Longines partner, gets my mental gears churning and lets me think about that country at that point in time, and who might have bought this watch in the first place. The story that develops in my head is half the fun in collecting vintage for me.

Does a service like this make it more likely that I will buy a "new" Longines in the future? I would say yes, because I have really been impressed by the helpful and friendly correspondence with Longines that I had.

Maybe Omega want to shut down this service because quite a few watches have been sold with Extracts from the Archives that turned out to be ... well, somewhat unrelated to the watch, thereby leading people to pay a lot more for a watch that isn't 100%. And maybe they want to move more "upmarket" by only having the option remain to authenticate the watch with them, and then issuing a Certificate of Authenticity. Still, not every Omega around is worth going through the entire game and cost of having it authenticated...

In a way, they would be cutting themselves off from the "lower end" of the market. Sort of what Jaguar is planning with only selling cars north of $100k+ starting in 2025 ... I'm a bit torn about this. Omega has a long history, and in my eyes, that history should be accessible, not hidden behind an even higher paywall.

Good thing is, serial numbers will still allow us to date the watches fairly precisely. So it's not a spectacular catastrophe, only a slightly highbrow move ...
 
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As it says temporarily I hope it is only temporarily.

Maybe whole department on vacation or they have big backlog so they don't know what else to state for not making customer waiting too long.
 
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The problem is that the extract just more or less confirms the movement is correct for a reference. It does not necessarily add much clarity to the piece itself. I can understand that it is problematic for Omega when the extract sometimes been used to authenticate pieces that later are proven wrong. Especially since Omega representatives have been connected to fraudalent sales of very highlighted pieces. That probably costs more badwill than the goodwill that comes from the 99.99% good extracts.

I doubt the service adds much revenue for Omega so it is an easy decision to close it down when problems occur. Sad news though for the community even if I personally don’t think the extracts themself add much value.
 
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I sent an email to check if they had any information and just received this answer:

Dear Mr. XXX,

Thank you for messaging OMEGA and your interest in learning more about your wonderful vintage OMEGA timepieces.

In response to your enquiry, we inform you that, unfortunately our Extract from the Archives service is not currently available and we are not in a position to let you know when this service will be available again.

Thank you for your understanding. Of course, we remain at your disposal if we can be of further assistance.

Best Regards Your OMEGA Team.
 
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As it says temporarily I hope it is only temporarily.

Maybe whole department on vacation or they have big backlog so they don't know what else to state for not making customer waiting too long.

One of the Davidoff brothers inquired about it and was told it is indefinite. It shows in the opening post.

Bummer, because I was just about to order one for my 1990 Speedy.
 
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They may have a good reason for doing it, but in my opinion, it’s terrible PR for the brand.

The way you get, and keep customers is partially by creating enthusiasm for what you’re selling. The extract service made collectors excited about leaning more about the history of their watches. This move makes owners potentially less involved with the company, not more so. Yet another example of dwindling customer service. Hope they see the light, and reinstate it.
 
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Maybe the concept to sell the other service that cost 1K and let you without watch for a couple of months and avoid the issues created by the 0.01% requesting EOA for watches put together like some of them sold in Auctions Sales .
 
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Maybe Eugene should start charging for ilovemyspeedmaster.com 😁

It is disappointing. An extract lends an extra layer of confidence to know that the serial number matches the caseback. It is additionally valuable for watches that were originally only sold in certain countries, e.g. the straight writing Apollo XI that was only sold in Japan.

It's also hard to understand how this piece of paper and minor research could cost them more than the $150 USD equivalent that we pay. Makes me wonder how inefficient is this company?

I suspect it's what others have suggested, that they want to focus on the COA. In the best interpretation, Omega may believe the COA provides more certainty for the customer and avoids some of the ambiguity of the extract. While true, sending a watch in the mail is risky, besides annoying for loss of use, not to mention the additional cost over the extract.

In the worst interpretation, it's a money grab. Personally, i don't believe this. I suspect it's a big company that didn't do it's research that should have included customer input.
 
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I have one pending from the 12th as well.. it would truly be a shame. Though it may not add much I do enjoy the process and learning more about the history of the watch.
 
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Maybe the people who did the research left or retired? Maybe they are having issues accessing the records right now? (i.e., they could be boxing up everything to be moved, etc.) Seems a reach to conclude the service is gone forever. A little transparency would go a long way.
 
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I would like to do an extract some time. It was never easy to do from the US as their was no way to do the online variation. It was almost like they wanted to drive traffic to the stores.

Since I have a dozen or so Omegas the cost would be prohibitive to extract them all. Especially the ladies movements.

Some companies get stogy about their history. Not wanting the younger customers to think that the product is for 'old' people. A lot of the Apple prototypes were scrapped, even though some people did what they could to save them. Until they were never there no more. And the next generation was all about the current stuff.

The apple // (Mostly GS) stuff was stored in my parents garage (Mom worked at a school as a library media resource specialist. So it was donated to the school which did not know what to do with it.) Finally it went to e-waste recyclers. A few of the more interesting things did go to the Computer history museum. Before every one in that department was quietly laid off they had the "Apple // forever." marketing campaign. Most of them joked it was actually 'Apple // for a fortnight.' when they packed the boxes up.

Omega reminds me a lot of Apple. As did Wurlitzer. Such companies set their own standard.

There is always that apocryphal story about how when the person was taking one box of archives to the car (or van) the Janitor was tipping the rest into the boiler furnace as wastepaper ...

There is a reason it is called ephemera ...
 
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..There is a reason it is called ephemera ...

Every human on the Earth alive today will be dead in 120 years.

We're all ephemera. Best not to think too much about it. 😁
 
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Every human on the Earth alive today will be dead in 120 years.

We're all ephemera. Best not to think too much about it. 😁

Literally, this is true of course. But this nice thing about creating things of beauty, expressing kindness and caring, and promulgating ideas that move society in a more positive direction is that sometimes they get cherished and become eternal.
 
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Literally, this is true of course. But this nice thing about creating things of beauty, expressing kindness and caring, and promulgating ideas that move society in a more positive direction is that sometimes they get cherished and become eternal.

My wife will be eternally young, anonymously outliving both of us.