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  1. Bayrat Jan 3, 2021

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    That insert looks awesome!
    Will that insert fit a 165.014 1962 Seamaster? I'll roll the dice on any prototype you got!

    Mcgyver - you are a true MacGyver! The definition of a "MacGyver Type" is “To assemble or repair something by ingenious improvisation, using everyday items that would not usually be used for the purpose” LOL…I think you’re there!
     
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  2. n-theory Jan 3, 2021

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    I don't know if we're doing dibs or not but....:thumbsup:
     
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  3. kaplan Jan 3, 2021

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    This thread was very motivating even though I don't have a watch with a bezel

    Printing makes sense in the long run, as the sales will continue, but for a timeless one, if I had a watch, I'd go for etched or anodized, even just a bare etched metal is better than nothing :)
     
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  4. stokey7873 Jan 3, 2021

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    This looks great and will be a great service to 2913, 14755, and 165.014 watches missing their inserts. They just don't look the same without it.
     
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  5. mcgyver Jan 6, 2021

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    015FDC92-7351-4C3D-88F7-59E19077B521.jpeg Did some more tests today-got the pad printing going really well with a new cliche!
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    Also tweaked the aluminum inserts dimensions - now it fits really well - it has been a good day!
     
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  6. mcgyver Jan 13, 2021

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    I have been experimenting with how to glue and "bake" the inserts.
    Many, many failed attempts resulted in - back to square one - use acetone based glues - as the naphtha based lacquers otherwise dissolves the glue during "baking".
    Later I will try UV curing low viscosity epoxy as a faster method - the lacquer contains so much solvent it takes 3-4 coats with 4-8h drying time to get the finish right.

    Here is a insert with two coats curing.

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  7. Bayrat Jan 13, 2021

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    Looks great!
     
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  8. mcgyver Jan 20, 2021

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    A step forward - first test version of a better pad printing setup is in place.

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    Testprint - paint with lume, three layers
     
  9. vlaspri Jan 21, 2021

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    Wow! What a great thread. @mcgyver you are doing a great job
     
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  10. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jan 21, 2021

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    Wow ! Great setup. I'd buy one . Don't even need one..... I just love solutions and not giving up..... Great work ! Kind regards. Achim
     
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  11. Franco Jan 21, 2021

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    How does the thickness compare to an original one?
     
  12. mcgyver Jan 21, 2021

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    Aluminium version 0.13mm, printed version for ”baking” 0.05mm
     
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  13. mcgyver Feb 7, 2021

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    A little update
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    Some of the "waste" produced.......
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    .......and finally some ok versions! (New cliché made with modified fonts)

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    Still waiting for UV cure Epoxi => done tests baking in naphta based lacquer...........not easy to get the results I'm looking for!
     
  14. Bayrat Feb 8, 2021

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    Wow, your into this! keep it going, it will pan out!!
     
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  15. OmegaFan503 Feb 8, 2021

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    Impressive! You are definitely worthy of your Avatar name!
     
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  16. mcgyver Feb 21, 2021

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    After much trial and error I finally made an insert I'm pleased with.
    I think I have redone the bezel twenty times or more and printed hundreds of inserts that are now placed on my wall of shame!
    The best solution for ”baking” is a pad printed 70µm thick insert with lume covered with 7-10 layers of a special hard floor lacquer.
    Sorry for poor quality pictures - looks better in real life!
    The bezel is quite worn and the outer edge/rim from 12 to 18:00 in lower than 18-12:00 => more concave suface on this half!


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  17. Bayrat Feb 21, 2021

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    Lots of work went into it! I am no expert but it looks awesome. Have you figure out what your going to charge for this service?
     
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  18. Franco Feb 21, 2021

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    And very importantly - do you think somebody could order just the black part, without sending the metal part of the bezel. This would ease all the ordering process - if they are easy enough for any watchmaker to fit.
     
  19. mcgyver Feb 21, 2021

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    Well........yes, but it takes a bit of practice to get it in place nicely!
    The aluminium version is "just"- glue in place (and coat if you would like to), and you're done.
    This version requires more skill!
    With a bezel that has less wear I think it is much easier, but I do not know as this is the only one I have access to!
     
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  20. Bayrat Feb 21, 2021

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    It’s been said before on this thread, if we do not have to take our bezel off the watch and ship the bezel (overseas for some) it’s a bonus. So many things can go wrong! Its best to have something that can be shipped to us and we can install. As long as the final product looks like the original and just as good as the other bezel products out there it’s a no brainer. I like that it’s an insert also.
    Do you need some testers, I am ready with my 165.014-62 Seamaster!
    Cheers...