Omega 625 help!

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The lower balance jewel shock spring was broken and the jewel is missing. Not by me, arrived this way, which is why I think it was 30 bucks! So, good deal, also horrible deal. Does anyone have a line on the shock spring and the jewel? Part number or one laying around i can purchase?

I ordered these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374501445884

But they are too big, but look exactly like what I needed. So, I've spent hours googling and cannot seem to come up with a part number for this very tiny watch. Th jewel I ordered is also too big! Its an 18mm watch I was fixing up for my missus.

If you need pictures I'll post, but it's just going to be an empty spot!

 
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The incabloc springs are pretty standard.

I have re-posted the charts here a few times. This recent post comes up when I search 'incabloc chart'
https://omegaforums.net/threads/los...stone-are-these-standard.178390/#post-2420230

Sometimes it is worth getting junk assortments of non name watches just for the shock absorbers.

Otto Frei sells assortments of 'practice' incabloc settings. Which is probably your best bet. No one wants to go through the old material and sort it. Other material houses have similar things.

Another option is the Bestfit catalogs and cross reference guides. These can be bit tricky to find, since the copyrights were clawed back by one of the material houses in further efforts to stifle competition and restrict trade.

This is also were we mourn sites like ranfft. I grabbed what I could from archive.org. There is a successor site, which was done by someone who wanted to pin down some website design experience. Sadly they are not watchmakers and the database is hard to navigate.

I have a whole box of 625 and the 4xx oval movements. The 670 and 680 automatics use the same base plate as the 625. Most of these are two handers and not much value. 630 is the three hander version without the auto or date. So the tick tock parts are often compatible.

Never expect any help from the sellers. What they have is rare, unique and worth a lot of money. Which is all they really care about. They exist for people like us who just have to have it.

At the moment I am in dire need of sweep pinions. So all the sweep pinions online are like 60 bucks, because these break easy or are the first part to be lost. And the sellers get greedy and split the packages up to individual pieces. Just because they can.
 
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Don't know if this helps or not.
Jewels and other parts are shared with other calibers, so it may take a bit of detective work to track down the correct part numbers.


 
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The incabloc springs are pretty standard.

I have re-posted the charts here a few times. This recent post comes up when I search 'incabloc chart'
https://omegaforums.net/threads/los...stone-are-these-standard.178390/#post-2420230

Sometimes it is worth getting junk assortments of non name watches just for the shock absorbers.

Otto Frei sells assortments of 'practice' incabloc settings. Which is probably your best bet. No one wants to go through the old material and sort it. Other material houses have similar things.

Another option is the Bestfit catalogs and cross reference guides. These can be bit tricky to find, since the copyrights were clawed back by one of the material houses in further efforts to stifle competition and restrict trade.

This is also were we mourn sites like ranfft. I grabbed what I could from archive.org. There is a successor site, which was done by someone who wanted to pin down some website design experience. Sadly they are not watchmakers and the database is hard to navigate.

I have a whole box of 625 and the 4xx oval movements. The 670 and 680 automatics use the same base plate as the 625. Most of these are two handers and not much value. 630 is the three hander version without the auto or date. So the tick tock parts are often compatible.

Never expect any help from the sellers. What they have is rare, unique and worth a lot of money. Which is all they really care about. They exist for people like us who just have to have it.

At the moment I am in dire need of sweep pinions. So all the sweep pinions online are like 60 bucks, because these break easy or are the first part to be lost. And the sellers get greedy and split the packages up to individual pieces. Just because they can.
I'll look at everything you listed, there's a lot of good info in there. Sadly the standard shocks from Omega that I ordered do not fit. So thats why I'm led to believe that there are sizes I'm missing somewhere. I'm almost tempted to just order another movement if I can find one.

 
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The upper and lower seem to be different sizes on the 625. I tend to work more with the 620 and some times get them mixed up.

@JimInOz chart above says the lower shock is from a ca440. I think this is the common oval ladies movement. The upper one is listed as a 1010 base caliber, which is one of the cost saving notaquartz movements from the same era.

At least with these movements, they are plentiful, and it is easy to get more and more. Until the parts no longer fit into the cute little box one got for them.

This is still an area where one can look for bulk assortments. Outside of art collages, there is not much demand for the small cocktail ladies movement sizes. I suspect there are billons out there in the wild. I notice that assortments of jewels and mounts are often listed on the material house sites under 'art' or steampunk supplies. Think of these springs as watch glitter.


There is also a wealth of 'generic Swiss' movements from the 1960s and 1970s. Imported to the US and other contries by the millions under many different names. I tend to favor A Schild. ETA of course merged in with what became Omega and Swatch. Fontmailion turns up a lot. Such things make for great practice watches. Back when I was starting boxes of these could be had at NAWCC marts.

Now with hindsight, I am more likely to recommend getting a complete working watch to start with. That way one can learn how things should work together.

None of this will ever save money or time. Especially when it comes down to the subtle differences of parts. And who even knows if a project watch found on an auction site is even from the same watch what left a factory.

It comes down to the three R's. Research, Research and Research. There is a reason a cal 552 is not really compatible with a ca 562 even if some parts are shared. It is the little things like shock springs, and calendar quicksets. The plates may seem interchangeable, but unless one has them side by side can the subtle differences be seen. Even the winding stems and clutches can have slight variations for clearances on one but not the other caliber.

Finding jewel settings takes a lot of research. It is easy to be disappointed. I thought I found a similar part online. The seller never shipped. Traced them to a floreda pawnshop, which may have gone defunct. When I filed a claim, the parts started moving through the system. On arrival they were the wrong parts. Sellers do not care, If you do not buy it someone else will, and be just as disappointed. If you complain, they block you to keep their ratings up.

We all go through this learning curve (or never really learn the lesson.) Eventually the research pays off and we have more items in the spare parts box.

Similar things happen with sewing projects, and electronics projects. I always find it interesting that there are clothing fasteners in the bottom of assorted watch parts. And resistors tend to show up in the strangest of places.

What one really needs to do is to set up a parts breeding program. Not quite sure how that works, but such things to tend to breed when one is not looking.

Incabloc springs like breeding around the corks of empty assortment bottles. Just never the one you need.
 
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The upper and lower seem to be different sizes on the 625. I tend to work more with the 620 and some times get them mixed up.

@JimInOz chart above says the lower shock is from a ca440. I think this is the common oval ladies movement. The upper one is listed as a 1010 base caliber, which is one of the cost saving notaquartz movements from the same era.

At least with these movements, they are plentiful, and it is easy to get more and more. Until the parts no longer fit into the cute little box one got for them.

This is still an area where one can look for bulk assortments. Outside of art collages, there is not much demand for the small cocktail ladies movement sizes. I suspect there are billons out there in the wild. I notice that assortments of jewels and mounts are often listed on the material house sites under 'art' or steampunk supplies. Think of these springs as watch glitter.


There is also a wealth of 'generic Swiss' movements from the 1960s and 1970s. Imported to the US and other contries by the millions under many different names. I tend to favor A Schild. ETA of course merged in with what became Omega and Swatch. Fontmailion turns up a lot. Such things make for great practice watches. Back when I was starting boxes of these could be had at NAWCC marts.

Now with hindsight, I am more likely to recommend getting a complete working watch to start with. That way one can learn how things should work together.

None of this will ever save money or time. Especially when it comes down to the subtle differences of parts. And who even knows if a project watch found on an auction site is even from the same watch what left a factory.

It comes down to the three R's. Research, Research and Research. There is a reason a cal 552 is not really compatible with a ca 562 even if some parts are shared. It is the little things like shock springs, and calendar quicksets. The plates may seem interchangeable, but unless one has them side by side can the subtle differences be seen. Even the winding stems and clutches can have slight variations for clearances on one but not the other caliber.

Finding jewel settings takes a lot of research. It is easy to be disappointed. I thought I found a similar part online. The seller never shipped. Traced them to a floreda pawnshop, which may have gone defunct. When I filed a claim, the parts started moving through the system. On arrival they were the wrong parts. Sellers do not care, If you do not buy it someone else will, and be just as disappointed. If you complain, they block you to keep their ratings up.

We all go through this learning curve (or never really learn the lesson.) Eventually the research pays off and we have more items in the spare parts box.

Similar things happen with sewing projects, and electronics projects. I always find it interesting that there are clothing fasteners in the bottom of assorted watch parts. And resistors tend to show up in the strangest of places.

What one really needs to do is to set up a parts breeding program. Not quite sure how that works, but such things to tend to breed when one is not looking.

Incabloc springs like breeding around the corks of empty assortment bottles. Just never the one you need.
Sorry for the delay, Life took over. Yes I agree that this was difficult to research and I appreciate you guys tapping into your knowledge. I'm still learning and compiling all the sites you guys have and use. I appreciate you guys very much! I'm going to research the Lower Shock ca440 to get this part replaced. Then I have to practice installing it! I'll update you guys, and thank you again.

*edit @JimInOz nailed it! 15 dollars to find a single replacement, but I have the link now! It's on order and I hope i'll be able to install it! Thank you!!
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