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OMEGA 1957 Trilogy Limited Editions – Railmaster, Seamaster 300, Speedmaster’57
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TMas
·I know this is a bit against the grain from the opinions I've heard here, but I like the Trilogy print with serial number. It is unique and special, and in my mind makes an LE even more limited. Reminds me of the word "Meister" written on the dial of some rare vintage examples. I'm a fan.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!W
Why is this do you know? The size is right at 19mm and I can't imagine the case curvature to be any different. Regarding selling separately there is no reason why I can see that they wouldn't sell it through a boutique or deaker like any other available replacement part. I would suggest yes and yes personally.
From what I have read online, no and no.
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M'Bob
·I know this is a bit against the grain from the opinions I've heard here, but I like the Trilogy print with serial number. It is unique and special, and in my mind makes an LE even more limited. Reminds me of the word "Meister" written on the dial of some rare vintage examples. I'm a fan.
I don't love it, but I appreciate your point of view. I think it would be only half as bad if it weren't written in an arc - it just disturbs the line of the other text.
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sensui
·Man, seems like your putting yourself through a lot of stress and additional expense in the hopes of getting matching printed numbers that you won't even keep on your watches.
I would think Omega would only consider a change if no one wanted the trilogy printed on the dial and they thought they would have trouble selling them as is. It doesn't sound like they are worried about the demand.
And as you saw from the previous poster, some people don't mind having the text and prefer it. I am not against having it for these guys....what I'm really after is being given an option that's easy for Omega also (AKA not making custom watches for the same edition) so everyone gets what they want.
I'm not putting myself through any stress actually, I have a great local watchmaker that I have a great relationship with and the expenses would be minimal to do the dial swap when it's available to the service market. Just trying to see if Omega could listen to some sense but if not, I'm not really going to lose sleep over it. But I wouldn't give up without trying first.
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speedolex
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Why is this do you know? The size is right at 19mm and I can't imagine the case curvature to be any different. Regarding selling separately there is no reason why I can see that they wouldn't sell it through a boutique or deaker like any other available replacement part. I would suggest yes and yes personally.
I'll look for the quote, might have been on a blog or in a forum, but I recall it saying that Omega had no plans to sell the bracelets individually and that the curvature of the case that was tooled specifically for the 60th Speedmaster was different than other cases and they would be incompatible.
Don't take that as gospel.....just reporting what I read.
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Why is this do you know? The size is right at 19mm and I can't imagine the case curvature to be any different. Regarding selling separately there is no reason why I can see that they wouldn't sell it through a boutique or deaker like any other available replacement part. I would suggest yes and yes personally.
Just as important as the lug width and case diameter is the location of the springbar holes - you need all three to get a bracelet to fit, and the latter is the most difficult to determine just from reading specifications.
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zinzan8
·Just as important as the lug width and case diameter is the location of the springbar holes - you need all three to get a bracelet to fit, and the latter is the most difficult to determine just from reading specifications.
Good point. Would be interesting to hear "official word" on the fit--unclear whether or not "no and no" was official, since we don't know the source.
My source at a Boutique said "will probably fit" the Ck2998 and FOIS, and we'll be able to get you one. But that is also unofficial, and he made the disclaimer "we really won't know until they start shipping the watches and put the bracelets into inventory".
Seems like the fit should be easier to answer than it is. If I had thought about it, I would have asked Rob at Topper or Dan at Timeless Luxury to see if they could find out while they were in Basel. Too late now, but wonder if they asked on their own...
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bnabod
·I know this is a bit against the grain from the opinions I've heard here, but I like the Trilogy print with serial number. It is unique and special, and in my mind makes an LE even more limited. Reminds me of the word "Meister" written on the dial of some rare vintage examples. I'm a fan.
I am actually of your opinion I do like it a lot
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speedolex
·Why is this do you know? The size is right at 19mm and I can't imagine the case curvature to be any different. Regarding selling separately there is no reason why I can see that they wouldn't sell it through a boutique or deaker like any other available replacement part. I would suggest yes and yes personally.
Right information, wrong watch. What I read was in this Q&A blog post and it refers to the bracelet fitting on the 20mm standard Speedmaster, not the FOIS so you still have hope:
https://www.fratellowatches.com/omega-speedmaster-60th-anniversary-limited-edition/
Apologies. Though I did read somewhere about the curvature. I'll keep looking for that one.
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sensui
·These wrist shots came from this article, if you guys need more:
https://www.lesrhabilleurs.com/baselworld-2017-omega-speedmaster-railmaster-seamaster/
https://www.lesrhabilleurs.com/baselworld-2017-omega-speedmaster-railmaster-seamaster/
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Kazyole
·These wrist shots came from this article, if you guys need more:
https://www.lesrhabilleurs.com/baselworld-2017-omega-speedmaster-railmaster-seamaster/
Wow. They look phenomenal. I wonder how big that guy's wrists are. The proportioning looks bang on, and those bracelets are incredible looking. I was concerned at first that the speedy had too many polished surfaces, but the combination of the brushed center links and the tachy scale seem to bring the whole thing together really nicely.
Only problem is now I really want the SM300 in addition to the speedy I've already ordered. Every time I see live photos of these I'm just blown away. Not making the wait any easier...
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Mach
·Only problem is now I really want the SM300 in addition to the speedy I've already ordered. Every time I see live photos of these I'm just blown away. Not making the wait any easier...QUOTE said:That makes two of us!
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niko4891
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It's not just the width, CK2915 reissues tend to look small because of the steel bezel, there is less black so it can make the dial look small.
My re-issue from the late 90's is above, there's a lot of steel to the eye from the case and the bezel which de-emphasizes the dial. I happen to think its one of the best features, its why I view this watch (and the 60th) as a cool changeup to my standard moonwatch, but I can see where those who are used to today's oversized watches could be put off.
That's an amazing re-issue!
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Just as important as the lug width and case diameter is the location of the springbar holes - you need all three to get a bracelet to fit, and the latter is the most difficult to determine just from reading specifications.
This is a very good point which I overlooked but it would be bloody minded of them in the extreme to have created a bracelet which was deliberately so different in bar position as to not fit other 19mm Speedmaster models which are so similar in other ways. My gut feeling is that the case for the new Speedmaster is identical to that used on the FOIS and CK2998 except for the brushed one piece bezel rather than the slightly larger inlaid version on used on the FOIS and CK2998. The lug profile of the new model reinforces this belief. If I am wrong on this then all bets are off but if I am not then the new bracelet should fit all 3.
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M'Bob
·it would be bloody minded of them in the extreme to have created a bracelet which was deliberately so different in bar position as to not fit other 19mm Speedmaster models which are so similar in other ways
Deliberately would imply nefarious intent, a want on the company's part to intentionally confound owners who wanted to swap parts. If it turns out the lug holes are differently place, I would be confident it was subservient to the needs of the design.
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speedolex
·Deliberately would imply nefarious intent, a want on the company's part to intentionally confound owners who wanted to swap parts. If it turns out the lug holes are differently place, I would be confident it was subservient to the needs of the design.
There needs to be a reality check here as well. Swatch Group is an $8.5 billion dollar company, Omega is one of their many brands who make scores of watches, and to think that beyond creating limited editions to appease collectors and bring in high dollar sales they would also have a responsibility to assure compatibility among one-off limited accessories is a bit of a stretch.
We should be grateful they do what they do, they're quite good to us already.
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speedolex
·Ah. Sorry for the failed research on my part. Was it on another OF thread?
It was on another forum I believe, someone who had hands-on experience at the show and owned a FOIS and felt it wouldn't work but I can't find it despite trying.
To me, the bracelet is one of the major points of difference between the Trilogy and the other LE's that Omega has made over the years, it's what justifies the premium price, I'd be unhappy if that exclusive bracelet started showing up on the wrist of every Speedmaster owner out there. I get why they want it. That's why I want it. That's why they should buy one of the 57 LE's like I did.
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··Oooo subtitles!So are you saying you hope the bracelet doesn't fit other models so yours remains exclusive? Interesting. Are you trying to irritate people in every thread you are currently involved in?
