OMEGA 1957 Trilogy Limited Editions – Railmaster, Seamaster 300, Speedmaster’57

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This forum is seriously bad for your wealth! I am a new member and if you see my introduction on Forum News and Member support you will see that I did not actually buy any of my three watches (I have bought for close family!). Since finding the forum I have tried to get a reservation for a ST and failed, I am on the waiting list but don't believe that will result in a watch, especially after the email from Omega. However I have now ordered the 60th Aniversary Speedmaster from my AD in Winchester. Their allocation is only two and my name is on one of them! No deposit was required, but I have dealt with them in the past, perhaps that makes a difference?
 
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Quick unrelated question...

Can anyone speculate how the dial of the 60th Speedmaster will look after many years in the sun...? Is it likely to age much the same as the original model or are these different pigments that are either more inert and could become more white or bleached rather than more brown? While I have one purchased, I do wish the aged lume was a bit closer to white. I was contemplating what it would be like to expose this initially to UV for a while so it gets some real patina rather than just fake patina.


@hundredwaters according to moonwatchonly, the company who originally made the dials pinned the browning down to a clear protective coat of varying quality (i.e. in the old days quality control was not so good, and neither was the technology). Those batches of dials that got the poor quality coating are the ones which deteriorated and thus oxidized (and that also varies depending on how bad the bad quality ones were 😀 ). My speculation would be that Omega would have their tech 'dialed' (pun intended) now days...
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Hi, just found your post and I would like to provide a few more details, since I have been in the Omega Boutique last weekend.

Case : Steel or Yellow Gold
Size : 42mm
Waterproof : 50m
Movement : 1861
Power reserve : 40 Hours
Special : Limited in Steel to 1972 pieces and in Yellow Gold to 72
Cost : Around 5800 Euro for the version in Steel and 18.000 Euro for the version in Yellow Gold

In case you would like to read more (unfortunately only in German available) : https://uhrforum.de/baselworld-2017-omega-t301367

Cheers,

Alexander
Hi Alex,
Appreciated!
 
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@hundredwaters according to moonwatchonly, the company who originally made the dials pinned the browning down to a clear protective coat of varying quality (i.e. in the old days quality control was not so good, and neither was the technology). Those batches of dials that got the poor quality coating are the ones which deteriorated and thus oxidized (and that also varies depending on how bad the bad quality ones were 😀 ). My speculation would be that Omega would have their tech 'dialed' (pun intended) now days...


Interesting... anyone have an impression of the faux vintage look in person or owned and got tired (or not) of other faux vintage pieces such as from JLC?
 
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I am thinking the high deposit amount required by some is their way to be sure the buyer really wants the set and not to flip for quick profit.
 
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Interesting... anyone have an impression of the faux vintage look in person or owned and got tired (or not) of other faux vintage pieces such as from JLC?
I have it on my SM300 MC and I don't really notice it unless I read about it and remember it has it. The photos make it look more noticeable than it actually is IRL.
 
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i don't like faux anything

Per your suggestion, I tried these under a strong UV exposure, but they developed only a minor brownish patina.
 
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Has anyone put a deposit down in the U.K?

I have spoken to a couple of OBs who will take down phone numbers but that is it. There is no deposit system or formal acknowledgment of interest. Basically they say they will call u when a watch turns up.

It all seems pretty haphazard and a recipe for disappointment......
Just added my name to the waiting list at a UK OB. No deposits being taken (as they don't know how many they'll be allocated) but people will be called in order of signing up and given a short window to purchase.
 
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I guess I picked the wrong time to revive my Omega lust. 😀
 
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I got two separate emails. One confirming my order right after I got off the phone with them, then another the next day, right around the same time the charge went through on my credit card. That one confirmed that my watch was reserved. That was mostly because I ordered before they had the SKU set up in the system. You could always just call tomorrow to make sure. Has the charge posted on your account yet?
Did you get email from the OB or from Omega? I put 100% deposit down on the Speedy on the first day. However, I haven't received any email from Omega. My OB says that I should get confirmation of the reservation and LE number in the next two weeks.
 
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Did you get email from the OB or from Omega? I put 100% deposit down on the Speedy on the first day. However, I haven't received any email from Omega. My OB says that I should get confirmation of the reservation and LE number in the next two weeks.

Both were from the rep at the OB (NYC, 5th ave), and they're mailing me a physical receipt for the purchase
 
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Interesting... anyone have an impression of the faux vintage look in person or owned and got tired (or not) of other faux vintage pieces such as from JLC?

I have three watches. A JLC Thin Tribute to 1931 Reverso (Casa Fagliano strap and syringe hands), steel Geophysic 1958 and a FOIS. I really like the tribute watches (not all mind you) because they look like watches from say the 50s. The majority of modern watches don't do it for me from a design perspective. Take Rolex for example. I think Rolex is great because in a lot of cases they haven't diverged from their original designs a whole lot over the course of say fifty years depending on the model. Still the current iterations keep growing one way or the other with either case design, size or the maxi dials. For me none of them look as appealing as the previous generation. Submariner, GMT, Explorer, Explorer II... In fact in some cases they look pretty bad like the current Explorer II (though the GMT and Sub aren't bad). And I've seen comments online about getting an Explorer I over a Railmaster for example. No way I'd get a 39mm Explorer I. That watch was perfectly sized at 36mm and I have a very average 7" wrist. Back to the point though, I generally prefer the look of tribute pieces to newer models that are being made today.

So in my case I have two watches with faux aged lume in the Reverso and the Geophysic. In both cases the intent was to give the watch a more vintage or aged look. Yet knowing that and looking at them they also look like design elements that work with both watches. The markers on the Reverso to me look more a design choice than a purposeful attempt to make them look aged. While the on the Geophysic it's less so, it's still a very nominal difference. I'd add that it simply looks like they opted for a more yellow colored lume than say a green colored lume. I also swapped out the strap to the Geophysic to a dark navy alligator and so the yellow of the lume matches that much better and again looks like a design element in the end.

While I've read cases for just getting an original vintage piece, that for me has it's issues. For starters, I looked up an orginal Railmaster just the other day and I think I found what was an original reference from a know dealer. If I recall correctly the watch was $26,000. For that price you could get all three anniversary editions and still have money left over for another really nice watch. The other catch with vintage for me would be is the watch 100% original? How does it run? Do I want to wear it around all the time? What is the aesthetic condition? I was recently told by someone that they sold their Geophysic 1958 for an original Geophysic. They also said they were having issues with the original running properly.

I think I read a comment by Robert Jan Broer about how the faux aged lume fits this new release and he said something like "imagine it with white lume?" I think that comment is spot on. I'd even expand on it and say imagine the watch in say thirty years after you lived with it and the watch has taken some knocks but the lume looks like it did from day one. For me it'd probably look like a vintage watch that's been re-lumed looks today, not very good.

I'm not a big fan of lume in general. I understand it on watch, but I don't get excited over seeing a lumed up watch on Instagram and I rarely if ever am in a situation where I need to use it. For me a watch looks it's best in natural daylight.

I also don't get the argument about it being fake aged when how often do you read comments like "I love vintage because it had this life to it before I owned it and if only this watch could tell stories..."? Well at the end of the day in most cases you don't know what those stories are. On top of that though now the watches stories are you wearing it to Starbucks? But hey, it's vintage, right?

At the end of the day it's down to one's personal opinion about faux aged lume. While I do question it myself a bit at times, I tend to look at it as being able to get something you seemingly won't get anymore and so as the watch ages with you it will look better down the road.
 
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Per your suggestion, I tried these under a strong UV exposure, but they developed only a minor brownish patina.

Are these organic? They look like too modern and oversized...
 
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Per your suggestion, I tried these under a strong UV exposure, but they developed only a minor brownish patina.

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Just got the email from my OB confirming deposit with corporate and I already have the receipt as I went in person. I guess now the waiting game begins. Hopefully we will get an email from corporate confirming our number. Very excited to see this one in the metal.
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When will they deliver?
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Just got the email from my OB confirming deposit with corporate and I already have the receipt as I wine in person. I guess now the waiting game begins. Hopefully we will get an email from corporate confirming our number. Very excited to see this one in the metal.
 
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I have three watches. A JLC Thin Tribute to 1931 Reverso (Casa Fagliano strap and syringe hands), steel Geophysic 1958 and a FOIS. I really like the tribute watches (not all mind you) because they look like watches from say the 50s. The majority of modern watches don't do it for me from a design perspective. Take Rolex for example. I think Rolex is great because in a lot of cases they haven't diverged from their original designs a whole lot over the course of say fifty years depending on the model. Still the current iterations keep growing one way or the other with either case design, size or the maxi dials. For me none of them look as appealing as the previous generation. Submariner, GMT, Explorer, Explorer II... In fact in some cases they look pretty bad like the current Explorer II (though the GMT and Sub aren't bad). And I've seen comments online about getting an Explorer I over a Railmaster for example. No way I'd get a 39mm Explorer I. That watch was perfectly sized at 36mm and I have a very average 7" wrist. Back to the point though, I generally prefer the look of tribute pieces to newer models that are being made today.

So in my case I have two watches with faux aged lume in the Reverso and the Geophysic. In both cases the intent was to give the watch a more vintage or aged look. Yet knowing that and looking at them they also look like design elements that work with both watches. The markers on the Reverso to me look more a design choice than a purposeful attempt to make them look aged. While the on the Geophysic it's less so, it's still a very nominal difference. I'd add that it simply looks like they opted for a more yellow colored lume than say a green colored lume. I also swapped out the strap to the Geophysic to a dark navy alligator and so the yellow of the lume matches that much better and again looks like a design element in the end.

While I've read cases for just getting an original vintage piece, that for me has it's issues. For starters, I looked up an orginal Railmaster just the other day and I think I found what was an original reference from a know dealer. If I recall correctly the watch was $26,000. For that price you could get all three anniversary editions and still have money left over for another really nice watch. The other catch with vintage for me would be is the watch 100% original? How does it run? Do I want to wear it around all the time? What is the aesthetic condition? I was recently told by someone that they sold their Geophysic 1958 for an original Geophysic. They also said they were having issues with the original running properly.

I think I read a comment by Robert Jan Broer about how the faux aged lume fits this new release and he said something like "imagine it with white lume?" I think that comment is spot on. I'd even expand on it and say imagine the watch in say thirty years after you lived with it and the watch has taken some knocks but the lume looks like it did from day one. For me it'd probably look like a vintage watch that's been re-lumed looks today, not very good.

I'm not a big fan of lume in general. I understand it on watch, but I don't get excited over seeing a lumed up watch on Instagram and I rarely if ever am in a situation where I need to use it. For me a watch looks it's best in natural daylight.

I also don't get the argument about it being fake aged when how often do you read comments like "I love vintage because it had this life to it before I owned it and if only this watch could tell stories..."? Well at the end of the day in most cases you don't know what those stories are. On top of that though now the watches stories are you wearing it to Starbucks? But hey, it's vintage, right?

At the end of the day it's down to one's personal opinion about faux aged lume. While I do question it myself a bit at times, I tend to look at it as being able to get something you seemingly won't get anymore and so as the watch ages with you it will look better down the road.

I think partly the reason for the whole "faux" lume discussion is the use of word "faux". It is not faux lume. It was not aged artificially. No one is lying to anybody by calling it "tritium". It simply is a normal modern lume with additional pigment to make it look brown/yellow when uncharged. I really don't get people who get worked up about this stuff. You like your lume white? There are millions of options out there. Fancy blue? There is a watch out there for that, I am sure...Prefer yellow? Buy one of these re-editions, after all if you are after the look of vintage piece and want reliability and modern tech, that's the way to go. I had a Rolex 1680 for a few years, loved the look but man was it a cra..p construction and built quality, rattling cheap bracelet, wonky bezel, hands that at one point simply fell out due to age, waterproof to zero meters, rusty etc etc., sure there is some charm to it but if you hold it next to a modern example, you understand right away how far the tech and manufacturing has gone in past 30-40 years. After spending $2K on all sorts of fixes on that watch, I've moved on and that's probably the last true vintage piece for me, just too much hassle and expense, specially if you live far from any major watchmaking capitals and have only a few options as to independent quality service.
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When will they deliver?

Was quoted estimated June delivery. Hopefully that will be the case.